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Will Dbd Still Be Relevant In 1 year?

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Will Dbd Still Be Relevant In 1 year? 45 votes

Yes
88%
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Hell no
11%
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Comments

  • Dr_LoomisDr_Loomis Member Posts: 3,703
    Yes

    Yes.

    Love it or hate it (or both), DBD will be still be top dog in terms of 4v1 horror in a year's time, barring some disaster.

    It's become too established with a dedicated fanbase and big license holders.

    I predict VHS will not be the big challenger that many are hoping for. However, I expect it be an pleasant alternative that has a greater lifetime than the Predator, Resident Evil and Alien online games.

  • jesterkindjesterkind Member Posts: 2,974
    Yes

    I don't see any reason to assume it wouldn't be, it's got a decent trajectory and very little direct competition- definitely nothing even approaching it in terms of quality.

    Unless the chapter releases get worse in terms of bugs, that might do enough damage.

  • MrCalac123MrCalac123 Member Posts: 952
    Yes

    lol

  • ShapedShaped Member Posts: 4,916
    Yes

    I love saying Hell no to everything but in this case it is "Yes" imo.

  • MooksMooks Member Posts: 9,639
    Yes

    Yes.

    Sadly even after BHVR has shown how awful they are (NFTs) it doesn’t change that DbD is the asymmetrical horror game and nothing has come close. And even though many people bash the devs they have to do something right.

  • ElusivePukkaElusivePukka Member Posts: 1,599
    Yes

    Merely being present in a niche market without competition means they did right a while ago, not that BHVR's done right since entering the market.

  • MooksMooks Member Posts: 9,639
    Yes

    Still none of the attempts even stayed relevant for a longer time except for Friday 13th (and that went downhill even before the license hell started).

    they are doing something right, even if some people don’t like it

  • ElusivePukkaElusivePukka Member Posts: 1,599
    Yes

    Other games failing isn't because of BHVR, whether you want to be honest about it or not. Games like Friday the 13th, Deceit, even Deathgarden, they failed in part because of the inclusion of stuff like in-game voice chats, which made them a less secure experience for streamers - DBD's streamability is its primary reason for success, given the expansion of YouTube and Twitch.

    BHVR's "something right" is just not screwing up that one important aspect, not something the devs are really doing now.

  • MooksMooks Member Posts: 9,639
    Yes

    That is my entire point though?

    i never said they did everything right.

  • ElusivePukkaElusivePukka Member Posts: 1,599
    Yes

    There's an implication in your posts that the devs are doing something right. Them not doing something bad isn't the same as them doing something right - or will you congratulate me on all the petty thefts I'm not gonna do today?

  • MooksMooks Member Posts: 9,639
    Yes

    There is still something that they are doing right though. Not everything they do. But still, they have a huge playerbase and even those that complain stick around.

    that’s not just because they don’t do a particular thing that other have done or anything. People would just stop playing asymmetrical horror games completely if DbD was so bad. If you like it or not, there is something they are doing right.

  • MooksMooks Member Posts: 9,639
    Yes

    It’s fact. We see that DbD is successful and that every other asymm horror game failed miserably and that’s only only due to DbD existing and they failed because of different reasons.

    DbD does something right. People may say it’s because they were among the first and because of the licenses and all. But if everything else was wrong people would still stop playing. Nothing to do with faith.

  • ElusivePukkaElusivePukka Member Posts: 1,599
    Yes

    The fact is that no, DBD's not doing anything. It's not doing much right or wrong, as a game, and it doesn't have to. It is a stagnant game, and will be until there's a real competitor.

    Merely saying "they must be doing something right" simply isn't fact, or logic, or sense. It's faith, plain and simple - trust and confidence with only self-evident backing, rather than anything empirical.

  • jesterkindjesterkind Member Posts: 2,974
    Yes

    Not sure why a competitor would change anything- DBD isn't in a competition, it's in a market. Either way.

    DBD actually is doing stuff right. There's plenty it's doing wrong- some map design is bad, there's a lot of bugs, balancing at higher tiers is pretty skewed towards one side, but none of those things outweigh that it is simply the best and most engaging asymmetrical horror game. At its core, the gameplay of Dead By Daylight is fun- it's a good game that happens to have a fair amount of grime that needs swiping off it to make it really shine.

    I don't really agree it's stagnant, either- the most recent chapters have all pushed to add new and interesting mechanics to the game, like Nemesis and his AI or Mikaela and her Boons. It's certainly accurate to say those things were implemented poorly, but it seems pretty uncharitable to say that means they're stagnant and not trying at all.

    There is a reason that DBD remains the top dog in its genre, and that reason is twofold. First, yes, its competitors are all just not as good, but second... it actually is a good and smartly designed game at its core, and it takes a while before the cracks start to show.

  • MooksMooks Member Posts: 9,639
    Yes

    and how do you define this real competitor? Apparently every attempt until now wasn’t one?

    Friday the 13th, Deceit, REverse, Hide or Die, HSH, Last Year and all the others somehow don’t qualify because you say so?

  • ElusivePukkaElusivePukka Member Posts: 1,599
    Yes

    If you're not sure how competition in a market affects something's development, you're not prepared to talk about markets. "Competition forces us to do our best" and such.

    AI PvE elements took five years after they were first discussed to be added. Boons are just further skewing play rather than helping adjust meta toward a more casual setting.

    BHVR is, and has been, a lazy and out of touch company. The devs shouldn't be praised for a bare minimum of additions or content when smaller companies are outpacing them in QA and QoL. Is DBD a good design at its core? Yes. Has real innovation or progress come since beta? Barely.

  • jesterkindjesterkind Member Posts: 2,974
    Yes

    Re: Not being praised for their efforts. Sure! But they also shouldn't be called stagnant, not trying, or not adding anything, because that's simply inaccurate. As I said- we could discuss for hours the shortcomings of the game and it's developers - a discussion I'm sure we'd end up disagreeing on some points during, even - but the one thing we can't say is that it's stagnant. Which was your main point, I'm pretty sure, and it's also still accurate to say the game is doing something right- it never stopped doing the things it was doing right at the beta, and that's why it's still king.

    (Also, lol. Competition breeds innovation doesn't actually bear out in a market, at least not often enough to warrant being a base assumption. Whoever has the most money and influence is who wins, not whoever has the best product.)

  • ElusivePukkaElusivePukka Member Posts: 1,599
    Yes

    "It never stopped doing the same thing, over and over, so it must be doing something right" is literally stagnation. Fresh coats of paint and a consistent failure to deliver on promises don't erase that.

    I also didn't say "competition breeds innovation", I said 'competition forces us to do our best'. While I'd love innovation, what I primarily want from the devs at this point is some QA/QC passes on the majority of the game - you said it yourself, the cracks are showing. DBD is a game in need of repair, both as a system and as a community.

  • jesterkindjesterkind Member Posts: 2,974
    Yes

    And if they were JUST doing the same thing over and over, that would be stagnation. But, as established, they're actually doing quite a lot! Most of it is implemented less than ideally, but the one thing they're not is stagnant.

    Besides, most of the new killers have been fun, even if strength/balance was lacking in a few of them. They're even adding new mechanics to those killers, so the argument can't even be made that they're just rehashing old killers. DBD is not a shining beacon of amazing game design, but it does right more than it does wrong, even with its new additions.

    Dead By Daylight needs work, but that work isn't to make it good; it's already good, and it's already the best asymm horror game. It could, however, be a truly great game with a little elbow polish, and that's where criticisms are accurate instead of the baseless whinging you see from the occasional commenter or forum poster.

  • ElusivePukkaElusivePukka Member Posts: 1,599
    Yes

    When the bar is low for a game, it can be hard for players to realize that more can and should be expected of devs. That's all I'm seeing here.

  • jesterkindjesterkind Member Posts: 2,974
    Yes

    That's a shame- hope you see an optician about that at some point.

    Until then, sounds like there's little more to say here. Have a good one.

  • MooksMooks Member Posts: 9,639
    Yes

    pretty much everyone agrees that more can/should be done and everyone expects more from the devs., especially on QA stuff.

  • DragonMasterDarrenDragonMasterDarren Member Posts: 2,033
    Yes

    Unless we get another patch like Binding of Kin that has even more problems with it (which in of itself would be a impressive fest) I doubt DBD is going to crash and burn in a year’s time even with all of it’s current problems

  • Bennett_They1ThemBennett_They1Them Member Posts: 2,302
    Yes

    I mean, I've got an asymmetrical horror board game (which is actually what got me into DBD, funny coincidence there) that I'm planning to get published, but that may take a while. :p

  • TheShapesMixtapeTheShapesMixtape Member Posts: 3,100
    Yes

    The schedule they've got seems to work for business so it's very likely they'll do the same thing for year 7.

  • ZarathosZarathos Member Posts: 1,735
    Yes

    As long as dbd stays on steam its gonna be hard to overtake. If it gets epiced due to this nft nonsense then it might seriously decline. In 3 or 4 years time its anyone's guess whether dbd will maintain its status. But for one year at worst it could meet some setback's and continue trucking. That being said I'm on board for competitor's to come along and but some fire underneath behaviors booty. Many didn't see wow's decline and yet here we are. Dbd's still has to go to the loss of content creators decline and then it needs to seriously lose some player numbers then we can be certain of it's decline. Again a drastic turn by dbd to support nft's could very well lose it its presence on stream depending on how they go about it and that could spell serious doom.

  • Nathan13Nathan13 Member Posts: 5,611
    Yes

    of course it will be!

  • Mister_xDMister_xD Member Posts: 7,206
    Yes

    for as long as its the only game of its kind on the market it will always be relevant.

    and thanks to the insane amount of licenses we have accumilated over the years, i doubt any new and upcomming game of this type stands even just a slight chance to rival DbD.

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