If you are upset with camping/tunneling, then you should be upset with the things that force killers to play that way. Like gen speeds, poor map design, poor power design, generally weak low tier killers, terribly garbage perks that are hamfistedly restricted for no good apparent reason.
The more fair the game is the more people that are willing to play fair.
Well I meant that playstyle be encouraged and classed as win not derank in mmr lol, I dont want easier games just the chance to go for more chases at the higher levels
No, but Pig is clearly the best and needs a nerf immediately.
You can’t draw any conclusions without the stats. It would be great to see kill rate for different MMR ranges. I would expect kill rate to be pretty high in low MMR and much lower in high MMR, but we don’t have the data so who knows 🤷♂️
Its because the Escaping is the only factor. You can have the best looper but if he dies he loses. Times iv done insane chases to be left on my first hook to die, even if my team haven't been hooked etc.
@Pulsar, @BrokenSouI plz no, my poor snoot can't do with any more nerfs T.T
Technically Nurse IS the worst killer in the game for most people. But the best Nurses are among the best killers.
Kills and escapes are the main thing the matchmaking algorithm tracks. Whether or not you as a player care about them is another story, but the game and the devs obviously care about kills.
First of all stats mean nothing balance wise (i.e. Nurse is the weakest killer according to stats so there's that), secondly the kill rates dropped massively since MMR got added according to the latest stats.
Average killrate for killers combined is just over 50% and that's still including all those matches where killers got looped / destroyed all game but managed get multiple kills via survivor altruism (especially endgame. Survivors still love to throw just because they want their 4 man escape).
The devs recently mentioned they're working on something regarding camping so I assume the killrates will drop below 50% in the long run. Hopefully the devs will see it as an opportunity to introduce a new secondary objective for survivors.
The game on a high level sucks for killers. All high level survivors loop perfectly, rarely fall for any mindgames, fly through the gens even while injured even if you play fair and know every killer power weakness. That's not fun no matter how you put it. Playing as the killer feels like being a plaything when all survivors know what they're doing.
It's never easy to get a kill unless you're Leatherface.
Saying killers are all good just because of the kill rate is so silly.
Just because killers can kill survivors in a trial does not mean killers don't have issues they would like the devs addressed.
Like I could facecamp as Leatherface for at least a 2K every game, but that isn't really quite fun.
That's the mistake, take that numbers as a parameter to balance the game. Looks like the classic dev point of view.
They should balance the game around the experience players.
Nurse being the worst killer actually so funny .
Because kill rate is not equal to a fun match... A whole 4 survivors SWF can stomp me but due to a very poor play which I took advantage of, I won by 4K doesn't mean that I had fun... think about it, this is an asymetrical game yet the killer has slightly more power than a single survivor... and the killer needs to chase and hook 4 survivors so even if the killer gets to capitalize over a mistake and snowball survivors and thanks to it, they end being dead, doesn't mean that you as a killer had a fun match hence the "crying". Killers do want to have some fun instead of sweating for the 4K.
It's the only thing we really have. Killer mains on here would have you believe that playing killer is almost impossible and survivors are super OP. Yet, the stats say otherwise. Of course it's not 100% accurate, but surely the stats would show a lower kill rate if the game was that unbalanced... right? Idk. I personally think it's pretty balanced right now (solo's could even use a buff).
Turn of your crosplay. You will get less sweaty killers. And you can have fun dying or escaping.
SoloQ could always use a buff - but no, the stats aren't even close to useful because they don't account for tiers of play. Each killer's got inherently padded numbers simply because of the number of people who have no idea what they're doing or don't care.
Can you clue me in on what the conversation is about then? I thought I was on track. My apologies if I upset you.
Killers need more nerfs overall! 🤣 Anyway the 2k/ 2 escapes idea is not of my liking I would prefer based on skill.
Sorry, but if you get hooked 3 times and hit a DS in the time Corrupt is up.
That is a you lack skill problem, not a killer or balance problem.
Because now the meta for survivors is smashing gens, healing at double speed and leaving. The meta for killers is committing to one survivor, camping him and try to get 2 more kills and hope they ######### up.
They completly removed hit and run that was what made the game playable without having to camp to get more than 2 kills.
They are completely useless
Don't get to obsessed with stats... The Devs have stats for everything and little background on how those stats actually played out
Like do the Kill Rates included DC rates... I would like to see those numbers
Do they include Kills gotten by NOED (cause that's a thing)
Do they include those kills gotten in endgame... I would like to see those numbers
Do they include Mori's (I think those should be separate)
If we are to take those Kill Rates seriously then they need to as well... By telling us not to read into the Kill Rates tells me something
Personal experiences doesn't equal everyone's experiences... but it's a fun experiment to do every so often
The kill rate takes into consideration the lower skilled/newer players. Yes, in those rankings killer is great, in fact the killer will likely win most their games. Additionally that’s where a lot of the player base is. However, buff both sides to high skill playing and suddenly the roles change. That’s what makes long term players so upset.
Killer mains wont cry about standard matches. They crying about them against chuck norris swfs.
Where do you get those graphs and statistics from?
He always will have something to whine about and judge others(survivors ) and know he is probably the worst and saltiest killer on earth.
Poor pig does need more love.
The Stars at the moment are crap.
Think about it, you have people who die insta hook or you have Killers who didn't play and stood there afk. There are so many things that you can't take the numbers serious.
And this shouldn't be a thing about who has it harder. I Main survivor and say a Killer have it pretty wroth against a good survivor.
The Problem for some of us survivors is this new system. Most try hard to give a good game, but more then once you play with potatoes and you can try your best and lose the game asap.
For Killer it's the same. You play against those potatoes win some games and then you have to face survivors who should be on your lvl even if you just started and the own you like no tomorrow.
That's not balanced not in the slightest. The old ranking wasn't that much better, so the question would be what to do. And the right thing would be check the points you got from a game. And balance them with ranks. A good game gives more BPs and you go higher in your rank and and get more out of it. So you can even prevent other stuff survivors and Killers complain about.
And again # Save_the_pig 😀
Buddy, you can't talk about kill rates on the killer forums. EvErYoNe KnOwS tHeY dOnT mEaN aNyThInG!
If you get hooked 4 times before corrupt is off you are literally trying to be hooked. Its impossible