Devs said definitively this would never happen and for good reason.
Good riddance. I (and I think most people that were present for Freddy V1.0) am glad such foolish cries will only ever fall on deaf ears.
This sounds like its the description of one of the plagues perks
You mean to pre rework state or the nerf after the rework?
I think he would be too weak for the current game unless they make some tweaks.
He is too weak even now.
I know GeneralV had a good idea, let me see if I can find it.
Pull survivors into the Dream World
-Survivors who are awake do not see The Nightmare.
-Once targeted by The Nightmare’s power, survivors enter the Dream Transition for 7 seconds.
-The Nightmare’s Movement Speed Penalty for putting a survivor into the Dream Transition lasts for 1 second.
-During the Dream Transition Survivors can see The Nightmare intermittently and they suffer from the Incapacitated status effect.
-When the Dream Transition Lapse, the Survivor is pulled into the Dream World.
Once in the Dream World:
-Survivor’s auras are revealed to The Nightmare when they are outside of his terror radius.
-Survivors suffer an action speed penalty of 40%.
-To exit the Dream World, Survivors can find non-sleeping Survivors to perform a wake up action.
-Failed Generator Skill Checks can also wake up.
-Hooked Survivors wake up.
Special Ability: Dream Projection
-Teleport to a Generator in view. Releasing the button early will cancel the action.
-Survivors cannot interact with the targeted Generator.
“You have nothing to worry about. This won’t hurt one… little… bit.” -Freddy Krueger
Of course credit where its due - https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/profile/GeneralV
Interesting. I'm almost positive they will never bring it back unfortunately.
I sure miss some of the things that are gone from time to time too tho.
As a person who started playing this game only during the 5th year anniversary, I wish I knew the old times.
You will know the old times (although different) if you stick long enough don't you worry ;).
"Why are there no knock knock jokes in America?
Because Freedom Rings"
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Exactly. I rest my case.
Agreed. You are correct.
That I will, see ya round.
So the only way for Survivors to fall asleep is if Freddy pulls them in? Or will Survivors passively fall asleep?
"Failed Generator Skill Checks can also wake up"
While in the Dream World the only way that a Survivor should be able to wake themselves up is through the Alarm clock. (Or have another Awake Survivor wake them up/get Hooked)
This. A certain someone has gone around convincing everyone that a boring slowdown killer with no chase potential who needed 20 minute games to win was better than what we have now.
Their only big point is old Freddy being "unique". Well, they were unfun to go against and not fun to play as for the majority.
I can pull up videos of old Freddy since I think people have forgotten, I know exactly where they are. Tru3 and Noob3 both did videos on them. Tru3's entire matches highlighted everything in particular. M1 Killers are not fun to play as, which is what Freddy was but worse for both sides.
Freddy being gone is good. If you want Freddy gameplay so badly, make a new Killer with the same gameplay but better to play as and against.
Are you talking this certain someone on the forums?
If so than that leaves out everyone but 1 guy
This rework isnt my own idea, btw.
it belongs to GeneralV
I'm trying to avoid name and shame, but yes it's them. I'm more than confident they're the source of wanting old Freddy back. Even though I've already shut them down, they still continue.
I have to count on the devs ignoring the forums on this one. Because I've brought up the same problems to them, and they don't care.
What do you think about the rest of what I wrote?
EDIT: Heck, they might still consider this name and shame as it is. Honestly, this is inescapable, the source of this is obvious and addressing this should be important.
So, basically, GeneralV wants old Freddy gameplay back.
Does Freddy have to go through the entire process of pulling people back in to hit them? Because that was a disaster, which can be easily proven.
I dont really have an opinion on old freddy, was wondering what everyone else was thinking, as I joined this game during year 5 anniversary.
Most of the complaints about old Freddy vanished with the rework, and Freddy was no longer considered the worst Killer in the game. He was F tier, F for Freddy.
I'd have to look for Tru3 videos where Survivors know how to destroy old Freddy. But even without the specific "good Survivors vs old Freddy" videos, it is extremely easy to destroy Freddy even in solo queue. Just don't respect sleep. He's an M1 Killer in practice. Loop him like any other Killer and you're fine.
People on the forums, typically people with high post counts, have forgotten why old Freddy was bad.
What abilities did he even have to mean there was a section of the game where you were immune to him?
Yup. Freddy straight up could not attack Survivors, they had to be asleep for him to touch them. Waking up was fairly easy and there wasn't too much risk to not waking up aside from getting aura revealed when outside of his TR.
Meaning that you needed to make a Survivor enter the Dream Transition, then after several seconds, THEN they can be hit. This was a massive problem for several reasons, namely that Freddy could be heard via lullaby so they could start running, and the Dream Transition consistently let Survivors run to loops without any kind of fear.
Freddy's sole power? Pulling people into Dream World. He couldn't do anything else with his R2. He was almost a pure M1 Killer. Worst Killer in the game by far.
God - Survivors would need to be more or less exposed to make that worth it.
Kinda, yeah. Aura reading is not enough, we've seen with Legion that what matters most is downing, since that's what stops gens. Tracking and injuring is fine and all, but that's not what wins games.
And now with boons? Old Freddy is unthinkable lmao He'd be destroyed harder than ever.
I assume someone will come in with "Overcharge on Freddy", the only issue is that this is reliant on Survivors intentionally missing the check because they don't want to be asleep. If the Survivors decide to remain asleep, you get nothing from it.
And even if you take advantage of aura reading to always know when to come back, old Freddy would be reliant on 3 gens, and even 3 genning becomes extremely difficult if all 4 Survivors are alive. Which is likely to happen with the MMR system in place.
Not to mention that 3 genning is uninteractive for both sides, and if the Survivors make sure that 3 gen never happens, it's GG for Freddy. Freddy would need NOED and basically every endgame perk to make a comeback. And because of Dream Transition, Survivors could still for BT saves, even if you sleeped a Survivor before they even got close to the hook.
I played as old Freddy. I remember how my games would go, and I watched videos. It's best for every side that old Freddy NEVER returns.
EDIT: If you'd like, I can try to find some actual matches. That video is edited and I'm sure someone will call that out, but full matches of old Freddy can be found with some deep digging on Tru3's channel.
Foolish cries, huh?
And who do you think you are to call our pleas "foolish"?
First of all, the Old Freddy you are thinking about isn't even "V1.0". That would be his on-release version, who was actually the fourth strongest killer in the game at the time.
Additionally, your comment is just plain wrong. There were several, and I mean several, threads proving that most people definitely want him back. The absolute majority of the community, I might add. Heck, look at the very poll you are commenting on.
I was here for the Old Freddy (or Freddy "V2.0", as you would call it), mained for him for months on end until his rework dropped, knew his strengths and weaknesses inside out. All of that lost because of the terrible decision to completely change him, without ever taking his players into consideration.
We want our killer back, and there is nothing foolish about that.
This old freddy?
Tbh he seems pretty strong
Maybe I should do my own research more often.
I really appreciate it.