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The Twins are a dead Killer. Please BHVR, at least acknowledge their existence....

I'm almost certain that someone in BHVR absolutely despises this Killer because holy ######### almost every single update since they have come out has screwed them over in some way, especially with boon totems. As if COH wasn't bad enough the new boon totem that is unbreakable for everyone within its radius is going to completely ruin the Twins. Unless they receive a buff or even better yet a rework they might just become the first Killer in DBD to not be played at all.
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I just got a 4k because of thrill.
Twins are the new Legion.
...they even released in the same time slot.
Now I don't wanna seem insensitive and say good but that's exactly what I'm saying.
Doesn't change the fact that in high MMR the Twins are awful. If this was before boon totems were released then yeah, I wouldn't have put up this thread since I've always managed to get a 4k with them but now that boon totems are a thing it is really difficult to snowball.
I feel like Twins was not well-thought out at all... their visual design is appalling (Victor looks fine, but Charlotte... geez. They really could have done something better with her, something they could actually make skins for...), their power, while intriguing, is kind of clunky and weird to use (why can't you recall Victor??) and they actively encourage a boring playstyle of slugging and camping (and I say that from a Killer perspective). It feels like Twins just needs a complete do-over, especially visual-wise.
And I hate BHVR's policy of not applying skins to Killers' powers. I would love to see Victor in a fez and monkey suit, with Charlotte in a tuxedo as well. That would pop!
Fair enough, I absolutely hate going up against the Twins because of how they need to be played but they at least deserve to get acknowledged by BHVR with the state they're in now.
Honestly only a Freddy/Doctor level rework can save Twins. I don't see any way to make them an enjoyable killer while with their current power.
yeah, I guess.
Twins aren't that bad, their camping potential its still good. There are far worse killers that are really outdated like Legion, Myers and others that has been gutted by the devs like Billy (RIP) and Pig.
Pre boon totems they were doing quite well. However boon totems have completely destroyed their only viable play style and it’s about to get worse once the new chapter gets here. We at least need better boon counter options. Currently all we have is ToTH which is quite mediocre itself. Honestly ToTH shouldn’t be a hex perk itself. Then it would actually be decent boon slow down. The even better fix to boons without requiring a band aid fix of wasting one of our perk slots would be to make totems break after snuffing out a boon. This keeps them strong but on a limited supply. I really dislike the continuous hits to Twins when they’re already the least played killer in the game. Aside from myself I don’t think I’ve played against a Twins in over a month and I literally play all day, every day.
Twins have massive cooldowns for virtually everything they do. Succeed, fail, switch, you're on a delay when you do it. They're insanely clunky to play and it's what makes slugging a necessity - they have more trouble hooking their downs than any other killer in the game. In fact, if you down a survivor with Victor in the newest boon zone, if Charlotte is more than 32m away, they will get back up before you can reach them. And CoH makes it so that survivors are rarely wandering around injured anymore, which was necessary for their playstyle to work.
They're virtually unseen in the wild and despised when they do make a rare appearance. Trickster's had 4 times as many new outfits as they have despite being released half as long. Easily BHVR's red-headed stepchild, which is... sadly appropriate for their lore. Reviled wherever they go.
They need a full rework. Possibly making use of the relatively new AI to make the other twin function while idle.
Yeah that problem already existed before boons, so i can imagine how CoH just makes it even worse for Twins. Obviously bad design although CoH is literally the new MoM, the devs needs to do someting about boons. Infinite relit needs to go.
My only wish for the Twins is to have a legendary skin where Victor is an animated evil ventriloquist dummy in a tuxedo.
Come on, that possessed ventriloquist dummy slasher killer thing is classic! 😄
In conclusion fix Nemesis
Kind of wish Victor was able to snuff Boon Totems. Would give them a niche and a counter to them, considering how Boons currently annihilate the Twins and they're so inefficient that they physically do not have time to find boons.
Would also be nice if you could switch back to Charlotte during Victor's successful pounce animation, and that Charlotte's wake-up animation was faster/movement during it faster. Ironically their "anti-slugging" measure just makes you want to slug more because downing and picking up with Victor takes like 30+ seconds between down and hook.
Wait, we can't have a Twins discussion without the Lore Guy! @PixelBush , I summon thee!!!
I'd say they need a full Freddy level rework, *especially* considering boon totems. Their level of inefficiency can only be made up via slugging/pressuring multiple survivors, and boons don't really allow for that.
Not to mention, I can't recall a killer so rarely played as the Twins. I think I've seen one in the last two or three months. Generally not considered fun for either side.
This.
I can't say ive ever escaped a twins. I play solo and we get destroyed by twins every time. Probably faced her 10 times if that.
Nice
I play Twins from time to time and for me it's all the time you lose from playing her correctly. 8 second stun on successful pounce and then switching over to Charlotte, Then Walking over to the downed survivor to find they're healthy again in a boon zone or some other survivor has picked them up before Charlotte can physically get there. Some sloppy effect is pretty much required on her once you start climbing MMR, and that's before boons came out. They've essentially destroyed Twins with this new Boon that's about to be released. They either need to go back to the drawing board with Twins or Make Boons Temporary / Limited in the amount of times it can be used or simply allow a killer to destroy a totem.
Did they not get reworked since they came out? I haven't played in a long while, but I recall seeing a leaked add-on that hinted at a rework. The add-on suggested something like Victor's pounce being fully charged would trigger a new action of some sort.
Nope, they didn't get reworked at all. Not sure whatever happened to those changed addons but I do remember it was a really long time ago.
If camping is mandatory, the killer sucks. It sucks for the killer to use this cheap tactic and it sucks the fun out of the survivors.
They won't be getting a buff anytime soon. I think it's obvious enough noone wants to buff them because then they would be a good Killer again and we can't have that
why they gotta make charlotte such a ugly lass, no wonder no one wants to play as her
They need to make it less punishing to use the goblin
Hm.