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Sick of defending survivors

I am so sick of defending survivors when killers talk about camping and tunnelling, then seeing why they do it when I play a game.

Most the time I play survivor, I see killers that don't face camp, they play hard but fair, you meet a few campers, more then ever lately, but not every game.

Also when I play killer, I find teams that play well, if the are PC then we have ggs. If I am on a challenge or for some reason I feel in a nice mood, the team was bad, I allow them to heal up, rescue and win. When they leave they are nice at the game and then just leave.

Then I meet a team like the one I just played against, who I only needed to do a challenge, and let them just get on and leave, only to find them trying to flashlight blind me at the gate, running around me and trying to taunt me, like they had escaped on merit. I did not hook when I got them down, I even carried one to the gate, stood there while he struggled and let him open the gate, with the others stood there.

Why are there so many idiots in this game that think they are so amazing. If a killer is stood there helping you out the gate, take it and just go, don't try and act like you are big people.

People ask why camping and tunnelling is a big thing in this game, well just as survivors say they are fed up of killers camping, killers are getting fed up with survivors who feel the need to act better then they actually are.

If you want to teabag and flashlight that is down to you, it does not bother me, but don't moan if the next killer you meet hangs you on a hook and stands there.


  • StarLostStarLost Member Posts: 6,012

    Oh man, I feel you.

    I tend to be the ultimate 'nice guy' killer - at least for my first few games of the day.

    If the other side has a DC, or a potato, or a suicide-on-hook type, or if I'm just stomping them - I'll ease up. I'll let them do a few gens, get the safe unhooks and I will even deliberately let them break free of carry states. I'll often even let one or two go. Many times the escapees end up with 30k+ BP.

    Then they'll teabag me or flick-macro me from the exit gates and refuse to leave until I chase them out, and say something dumb in postgame.

    After a few games of this happening, I'll lose my fluff and start going in hard. Every game turns into a grudge match, and it's probably less fun for all involved.

  • MikeyBoiMikeyBoi Member Posts: 285

    There are plenty of good console swfs it’s not just PC…

    The majority of survivors that t bag, macro spam/click their flashlight/taunt etc during the match or out the gate says a lot about how much they play killer at high MMR which is never.. A very small group of survivors that are very skilled at playing both roles will leave and loop gracefully.

  • dspaceman20dspaceman20 Member Posts: 3,668

    I agree. As a survivor main even I realize that most survivors are very annoying and means. It makes me sick to see survivor be jerks to killers.

  • TheShapesMixtapeTheShapesMixtape Member Posts: 4,252
    edited November 2021

    I just wish people would stop making this game personal. It's a game. It's supposed to be a form of escapism. Making it about other people instead of what's happening in the game ruins that.

  • StarLostStarLost Member Posts: 6,012

    I think that there is also a paradigm that arises in most SWF groups.

    They easily win a few games, and come to expect it. They get cocky. Then their MMR rises to a more intermediate level and they start having rough games, but still manage to get out. They taunt and belittle the killer, because the match was stressful.

    Their MMR rises some more.

    Then they start running into the real monsters, and get destroyed.

    But that paradigm is still active. They think that it can't be them being matched against killers with actual skill - it must be that the killer is somehow playing 'unfair'. After all - they did so well and must thus be really really good.

    They become BM and cheap as their MMR falls back to the intermediates, and then they get matched against me and ruin my day.

  • LaluziLaluzi Member Posts: 3,813

    Survivor behavior is why I've come to side more with, or perhaps empathize more with the problems of, killers despite playing both relatively equally. Survivors act like dicks on the regular and it's a rare I go a day without meeting someone unpleasant - me encountering a killer that goes out of their way to make things nasty or spit invectives in post-game chat is much rarer. I've still met plenty of awful people in that role, but terrible survivors outnumber terrible killers beyond the 4:1 ratio you'd expect. I'm driven insane by how often my teammates taunt the killer for no reason I can discern.

    This may be because survivors have more actions they can take that don't benefit them at all to express themselves mid-match, while most 'rude' killer actions benefit themselves and are more ambiguous in intent. Killers mainly have hitting on hook and bleeding out as their BM options, and I'll count someone who facecamps at 5 gens as well (if I see a basement Bubba, I'm assuming they're doing it to farm salt.) But I think it's more a combination of teammates/especially voice comms bolstering bravado and mutual dislike of the killer player, and just a sort of an osmotic game culture thing that people witness everywhere and learn themselves. Postgame chat is the great revealer and I still see survivors mocking the killer or yelling at each other for not playing correctly way more than I see the killer insulting the survivors. Even if a killer is playing pretty cutthroat and in a way I'd perceive as mean, it's usually a GG from them in the end. And I can accept that - there's a big difference between playing to win and playing to bully.

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