Understanding The Entity.

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  • Shad03Shad03 Member Posts: 929

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    @TrueKn1ghtmar3 said:
    I feel there is a reason the entity is taking killers and survivors in the rate he is, he isn't getting the hope he needs, now currently there are 15 survivors all producing hope, this is odd because there are 2 known survivors of the last challenges, and we arent given much clue to how many more there could have been but taking a look at the universal perks they could be those of survivors in the void yet to fade or the last trial counting these perks taking in the consideration that each survivor gets 3 teachables that means other than vigo and Benedict there were 5 others so 7 survivors is low compared to our current 15, as you said it is a very old diety but why all of a sudden up your hope consumption? 17 (because vigo and benidict is still alive) survivors giving you hope that is more than double your last haul. It couldn't be because any aren't producing enough hope he could just dump them and get new survivors, So I submit that the entity can't collect hope as efficiently anymore, the Entity is dying he has reached his final millinia among us and he is trying to pull as much hope as possible to prolong and postpone his inevitable fate the void.

    I might be thinking stupid, but if the Entity can constantly pluck people into his universe why would he ever be starved of hope? We have all the playable survivors, the survivors mentioned in perks and the survivors from the original PC trailer. As far as I can tell, there are more survivors than we could ever count.

    Because it eventually dawns on Survivors that there's no way out. They lose all emotional response as the living nightmare they're in becomes the new normal for them. At that point, they're of no use to the Entity, so She casts them into the Void.

    But there will always be more people to grab right? Also I heard someone say that survivors who lose all hope sometimes become killers, a few of the playable killers had to be forced to kill before they embraced it.

    on the dbd wiki's page on the entity and read the the killers section (under the subtitle killers) it says '' Many Killers do not do so willingly, although some are happy to sate their Bloodlust. Some have to be tortured over endless years to be coerced into doing what The Entity wants.''.

    This is correct, how else did The Trapper get those hooks into his skin? He didn't do it on purpose, this thing wanted him to kill, and he wouldn't do it because he was still loyal to his father, so then it took matters into it's own hands.

    the trapper put the hooks in himself to keep the pain going to fill him with rage. read the trappers torso description. also i think the trappers mental state decade like his fathers and he was left with only a desire to kill and please his dad and later the entity (who probably became a farther like figure for trapper).

    Nope. Proof in a live stream, Devs said, and I quote:

    "47- WHY DID THE DOCTOR PRY HIS MOUTH AND EYES OPEN?
    "Oh, no no no no, that's not how it works. Evan did not put the iron bars and hooks into his shoulder, and Sally did not choke herself with a pillowcase."
    "They are not responsible for the unpleasant things that are happening to them."
    "

    The hooks are a method of control I believe. The rage would prevent him from rationalizing.

    i am missing so much [BAD WORD] lore. link me to the dev steams I've heard about or something because im saying shit that makes sense to me just for it to be invalid because the devs said so. can we just not talk about lore anymore and talk about how Darth Vader should be a licensed killer.

    Lel. I can do you one better.

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/2402/every-lore-related-question-devs-answered-81-questions-and-some-answers-1#latest

    thanks.

    if the entity hurts the killers who didnt want to kill, why does the trapper have the hooks but the wraith doesnt? out of the trapper and the wraith, the wraith seems less likely to want to kill but the trapper was tortured and forced and the wraith wasnt (from what it looks like).

    He possibly was tortured in some way. Maybe mentally.

  • XxAtomicAlfiexXXxAtomicAlfiexX Member Posts: 395

    @Shad03 said:

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    @Shad03 said:

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    @Detective_Jonathan said:

    @XxAtomicAlfiexX said:

    @The_Trapper said:

    @Orion said:

    @The_Trapper said:

    @TrueKn1ghtmar3 said:
    I feel there is a reason the entity is taking killers and survivors in the rate he is, he isn't getting the hope he needs, now currently there are 15 survivors all producing hope, this is odd because there are 2 known survivors of the last challenges, and we arent given much clue to how many more there could have been but taking a look at the universal perks they could be those of survivors in the void yet to fade or the last trial counting these perks taking in the consideration that each survivor gets 3 teachables that means other than vigo and Benedict there were 5 others so 7 survivors is low compared to our current 15, as you said it is a very old diety but why all of a sudden up your hope consumption? 17 (because vigo and benidict is still alive) survivors giving you hope that is more than double your last haul. It couldn't be because any aren't producing enough hope he could just dump them and get new survivors, So I submit that the entity can't collect hope as efficiently anymore, the Entity is dying he has reached his final millinia among us and he is trying to pull as much hope as possible to prolong and postpone his inevitable fate the void.

    I might be thinking stupid, but if the Entity can constantly pluck people into his universe why would he ever be starved of hope? We have all the playable survivors, the survivors mentioned in perks and the survivors from the original PC trailer. As far as I can tell, there are more survivors than we could ever count.

    Because it eventually dawns on Survivors that there's no way out. They lose all emotional response as the living nightmare they're in becomes the new normal for them. At that point, they're of no use to the Entity, so She casts them into the Void.

    But there will always be more people to grab right? Also I heard someone say that survivors who lose all hope sometimes become killers, a few of the playable killers had to be forced to kill before they embraced it.

    on the dbd wiki's page on the entity and read the the killers section (under the subtitle killers) it says '' Many Killers do not do so willingly, although some are happy to sate their Bloodlust. Some have to be tortured over endless years to be coerced into doing what The Entity wants.''.

    This is correct, how else did The Trapper get those hooks into his skin? He didn't do it on purpose, this thing wanted him to kill, and he wouldn't do it because he was still loyal to his father, so then it took matters into it's own hands.

    the trapper put the hooks in himself to keep the pain going to fill him with rage. read the trappers torso description. also i think the trappers mental state decade like his fathers and he was left with only a desire to kill and please his dad and later the entity (who probably became a farther like figure for trapper).

    Nope. Proof in a live stream, Devs said, and I quote:

    "47- WHY DID THE DOCTOR PRY HIS MOUTH AND EYES OPEN?
    "Oh, no no no no, that's not how it works. Evan did not put the iron bars and hooks into his shoulder, and Sally did not choke herself with a pillowcase."
    "They are not responsible for the unpleasant things that are happening to them."
    "

    The hooks are a method of control I believe. The rage would prevent him from rationalizing.

    i am missing so much [BAD WORD] lore. link me to the dev steams I've heard about or something because im saying shit that makes sense to me just for it to be invalid because the devs said so. can we just not talk about lore anymore and talk about how Darth Vader should be a licensed killer.

    Lel. I can do you one better.

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/2402/every-lore-related-question-devs-answered-81-questions-and-some-answers-1#latest

    thanks.

    if the entity hurts the killers who didnt want to kill, why does the trapper have the hooks but the wraith doesnt? out of the trapper and the wraith, the wraith seems less likely to want to kill but the trapper was tortured and forced and the wraith wasnt (from what it looks like).

    He possibly was tortured in some way. Maybe mentally.

    ok. but why was he gifted buy the entity if he needed to by tortured?

  • Shad03Shad03 Member Posts: 929

    @XxAtomicAlfiexX said:

    @Shad03 said:

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    @XxAtomicAlfiexX said:

    @Shad03 said:

    @XxAtomicAlfiexX said:

    @Shad03 said:

    @XxAtomicAlfiexX said:

    @Detective_Jonathan said:

    @XxAtomicAlfiexX said:

    @The_Trapper said:

    @Orion said:

    @The_Trapper said:

    @TrueKn1ghtmar3 said:
    I feel there is a reason the entity is taking killers and survivors in the rate he is, he isn't getting the hope he needs, now currently there are 15 survivors all producing hope, this is odd because there are 2 known survivors of the last challenges, and we arent given much clue to how many more there could have been but taking a look at the universal perks they could be those of survivors in the void yet to fade or the last trial counting these perks taking in the consideration that each survivor gets 3 teachables that means other than vigo and Benedict there were 5 others so 7 survivors is low compared to our current 15, as you said it is a very old diety but why all of a sudden up your hope consumption? 17 (because vigo and benidict is still alive) survivors giving you hope that is more than double your last haul. It couldn't be because any aren't producing enough hope he could just dump them and get new survivors, So I submit that the entity can't collect hope as efficiently anymore, the Entity is dying he has reached his final millinia among us and he is trying to pull as much hope as possible to prolong and postpone his inevitable fate the void.

    I might be thinking stupid, but if the Entity can constantly pluck people into his universe why would he ever be starved of hope? We have all the playable survivors, the survivors mentioned in perks and the survivors from the original PC trailer. As far as I can tell, there are more survivors than we could ever count.

    Because it eventually dawns on Survivors that there's no way out. They lose all emotional response as the living nightmare they're in becomes the new normal for them. At that point, they're of no use to the Entity, so She casts them into the Void.

    But there will always be more people to grab right? Also I heard someone say that survivors who lose all hope sometimes become killers, a few of the playable killers had to be forced to kill before they embraced it.

    on the dbd wiki's page on the entity and read the the killers section (under the subtitle killers) it says '' Many Killers do not do so willingly, although some are happy to sate their Bloodlust. Some have to be tortured over endless years to be coerced into doing what The Entity wants.''.

    This is correct, how else did The Trapper get those hooks into his skin? He didn't do it on purpose, this thing wanted him to kill, and he wouldn't do it because he was still loyal to his father, so then it took matters into it's own hands.

    the trapper put the hooks in himself to keep the pain going to fill him with rage. read the trappers torso description. also i think the trappers mental state decade like his fathers and he was left with only a desire to kill and please his dad and later the entity (who probably became a farther like figure for trapper).

    Nope. Proof in a live stream, Devs said, and I quote:

    "47- WHY DID THE DOCTOR PRY HIS MOUTH AND EYES OPEN?
    "Oh, no no no no, that's not how it works. Evan did not put the iron bars and hooks into his shoulder, and Sally did not choke herself with a pillowcase."
    "They are not responsible for the unpleasant things that are happening to them."
    "

    The hooks are a method of control I believe. The rage would prevent him from rationalizing.

    i am missing so much [BAD WORD] lore. link me to the dev steams I've heard about or something because im saying shit that makes sense to me just for it to be invalid because the devs said so. can we just not talk about lore anymore and talk about how Darth Vader should be a licensed killer.

    Lel. I can do you one better.

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/2402/every-lore-related-question-devs-answered-81-questions-and-some-answers-1#latest

    thanks.

    if the entity hurts the killers who didnt want to kill, why does the trapper have the hooks but the wraith doesnt? out of the trapper and the wraith, the wraith seems less likely to want to kill but the trapper was tortured and forced and the wraith wasnt (from what it looks like).

    He possibly was tortured in some way. Maybe mentally.

    ok. but why was he gifted buy the entity if he needed to by tortured?

    He needed a way to hunt down the survivors and I guess the Entity gave him the bell. I guess with the express instructions of, "Use this and hunt down your prey. Spare no one or pain will be brought to you."

  • XxAtomicAlfiexXXxAtomicAlfiexX Member Posts: 395

    @Shad03 said:

    @XxAtomicAlfiexX said:

    @Shad03 said:

    @XxAtomicAlfiexX said:

    @XxAtomicAlfiexX said:

    @Shad03 said:

    @XxAtomicAlfiexX said:

    @Shad03 said:

    @XxAtomicAlfiexX said:

    @Detective_Jonathan said:

    @XxAtomicAlfiexX said:

    @The_Trapper said:

    @Orion said:

    @The_Trapper said:

    @TrueKn1ghtmar3 said:
    I feel there is a reason the entity is taking killers and survivors in the rate he is, he isn't getting the hope he needs, now currently there are 15 survivors all producing hope, this is odd because there are 2 known survivors of the last challenges, and we arent given much clue to how many more there could have been but taking a look at the universal perks they could be those of survivors in the void yet to fade or the last trial counting these perks taking in the consideration that each survivor gets 3 teachables that means other than vigo and Benedict there were 5 others so 7 survivors is low compared to our current 15, as you said it is a very old diety but why all of a sudden up your hope consumption? 17 (because vigo and benidict is still alive) survivors giving you hope that is more than double your last haul. It couldn't be because any aren't producing enough hope he could just dump them and get new survivors, So I submit that the entity can't collect hope as efficiently anymore, the Entity is dying he has reached his final millinia among us and he is trying to pull as much hope as possible to prolong and postpone his inevitable fate the void.

    I might be thinking stupid, but if the Entity can constantly pluck people into his universe why would he ever be starved of hope? We have all the playable survivors, the survivors mentioned in perks and the survivors from the original PC trailer. As far as I can tell, there are more survivors than we could ever count.

    Because it eventually dawns on Survivors that there's no way out. They lose all emotional response as the living nightmare they're in becomes the new normal for them. At that point, they're of no use to the Entity, so She casts them into the Void.

    But there will always be more people to grab right? Also I heard someone say that survivors who lose all hope sometimes become killers, a few of the playable killers had to be forced to kill before they embraced it.

    on the dbd wiki's page on the entity and read the the killers section (under the subtitle killers) it says '' Many Killers do not do so willingly, although some are happy to sate their Bloodlust. Some have to be tortured over endless years to be coerced into doing what The Entity wants.''.

    This is correct, how else did The Trapper get those hooks into his skin? He didn't do it on purpose, this thing wanted him to kill, and he wouldn't do it because he was still loyal to his father, so then it took matters into it's own hands.

    the trapper put the hooks in himself to keep the pain going to fill him with rage. read the trappers torso description. also i think the trappers mental state decade like his fathers and he was left with only a desire to kill and please his dad and later the entity (who probably became a farther like figure for trapper).

    Nope. Proof in a live stream, Devs said, and I quote:

    "47- WHY DID THE DOCTOR PRY HIS MOUTH AND EYES OPEN?
    "Oh, no no no no, that's not how it works. Evan did not put the iron bars and hooks into his shoulder, and Sally did not choke herself with a pillowcase."
    "They are not responsible for the unpleasant things that are happening to them."
    "

    The hooks are a method of control I believe. The rage would prevent him from rationalizing.

    i am missing so much [BAD WORD] lore. link me to the dev steams I've heard about or something because im saying shit that makes sense to me just for it to be invalid because the devs said so. can we just not talk about lore anymore and talk about how Darth Vader should be a licensed killer.

    Lel. I can do you one better.

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/2402/every-lore-related-question-devs-answered-81-questions-and-some-answers-1#latest

    thanks.

    if the entity hurts the killers who didnt want to kill, why does the trapper have the hooks but the wraith doesnt? out of the trapper and the wraith, the wraith seems less likely to want to kill but the trapper was tortured and forced and the wraith wasnt (from what it looks like).

    He possibly was tortured in some way. Maybe mentally.

    ok. but why was he gifted buy the entity if he needed to by tortured?

    He needed a way to hunt down the survivors and I guess the Entity gave him the bell. I guess with the express instructions of, "Use this and hunt down your prey. Spare no one or pain will be brought to you."

    that makes sense. what about the huntress?

  • Shad03Shad03 Member Posts: 929

    @XxAtomicAlfiexX

    I'd imagine she wouldn't have a problem with killing, she started killing humans way before she ended up in the Fog.

    (The quote thing was getting too long. In fact this chat has been going on too long considering what the OP is XD, I might make a discussion for my reasons on why killers do what they do here. It would probably include my own headcanons if I could make it make sense.)

  • XxAtomicAlfiexXXxAtomicAlfiexX Member Posts: 395

    @Shad03
    fair enough. you make that discussion. i forgot that the huntress killed for sport so i thought she only killed for the little ones. also can i point out that the huntress's back story is [BAD WORD] sad. and long. its painfully long.

  • TrueKn1ghtmar3TrueKn1ghtmar3 Member Posts: 161

    @Shad03 said:

    @XxAtomicAlfiexX said:

    @Shad03 said:

    @XxAtomicAlfiexX said:

    @XxAtomicAlfiexX said:

    @Shad03 said:

    @XxAtomicAlfiexX said:

    @Shad03 said:

    @XxAtomicAlfiexX said:

    @Detective_Jonathan said:

    @XxAtomicAlfiexX said:

    @The_Trapper said:

    @Orion said:

    @The_Trapper said:

    @TrueKn1ghtmar3 said:
    I feel there is a reason the entity is taking killers and survivors in the rate he is, he isn't getting the hope he needs, now currently there are 15 survivors all producing hope, this is odd because there are 2 known survivors of the last challenges, and we arent given much clue to how many more there could have been but taking a look at the universal perks they could be those of survivors in the void yet to fade or the last trial counting these perks taking in the consideration that each survivor gets 3 teachables that means other than vigo and Benedict there were 5 others so 7 survivors is low compared to our current 15, as you said it is a very old diety but why all of a sudden up your hope consumption? 17 (because vigo and benidict is still alive) survivors giving you hope that is more than double your last haul. It couldn't be because any aren't producing enough hope he could just dump them and get new survivors, So I submit that the entity can't collect hope as efficiently anymore, the Entity is dying he has reached his final millinia among us and he is trying to pull as much hope as possible to prolong and postpone his inevitable fate the void.

    I might be thinking stupid, but if the Entity can constantly pluck people into his universe why would he ever be starved of hope? We have all the playable survivors, the survivors mentioned in perks and the survivors from the original PC trailer. As far as I can tell, there are more survivors than we could ever count.

    Because it eventually dawns on Survivors that there's no way out. They lose all emotional response as the living nightmare they're in becomes the new normal for them. At that point, they're of no use to the Entity, so She casts them into the Void.

    But there will always be more people to grab right? Also I heard someone say that survivors who lose all hope sometimes become killers, a few of the playable killers had to be forced to kill before they embraced it.

    on the dbd wiki's page on the entity and read the the killers section (under the subtitle killers) it says '' Many Killers do not do so willingly, although some are happy to sate their Bloodlust. Some have to be tortured over endless years to be coerced into doing what The Entity wants.''.

    This is correct, how else did The Trapper get those hooks into his skin? He didn't do it on purpose, this thing wanted him to kill, and he wouldn't do it because he was still loyal to his father, so then it took matters into it's own hands.

    the trapper put the hooks in himself to keep the pain going to fill him with rage. read the trappers torso description. also i think the trappers mental state decade like his fathers and he was left with only a desire to kill and please his dad and later the entity (who probably became a farther like figure for trapper).

    Nope. Proof in a live stream, Devs said, and I quote:

    "47- WHY DID THE DOCTOR PRY HIS MOUTH AND EYES OPEN?
    "Oh, no no no no, that's not how it works. Evan did not put the iron bars and hooks into his shoulder, and Sally did not choke herself with a pillowcase."
    "They are not responsible for the unpleasant things that are happening to them."
    "

    The hooks are a method of control I believe. The rage would prevent him from rationalizing.

    i am missing so much [BAD WORD] lore. link me to the dev steams I've heard about or something because im saying shit that makes sense to me just for it to be invalid because the devs said so. can we just not talk about lore anymore and talk about how Darth Vader should be a licensed killer.

    Lel. I can do you one better.

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/2402/every-lore-related-question-devs-answered-81-questions-and-some-answers-1#latest

    thanks.

    if the entity hurts the killers who didnt want to kill, why does the trapper have the hooks but the wraith doesnt? out of the trapper and the wraith, the wraith seems less likely to want to kill but the trapper was tortured and forced and the wraith wasnt (from what it looks like).

    He possibly was tortured in some way. Maybe mentally.

    ok. but why was he gifted buy the entity if he needed to by tortured?

    He needed a way to hunt down the survivors and I guess the Entity gave him the bell. I guess with the express instructions of, "Use this and hunt down your prey. Spare no one or pain will be brought to you."

    that makes sense. what about the huntress?

    The huntress has the mind of a child, she wasn't allowed to mentally develop therefore the entity doesnt need much to push her to kill

  • TrueKn1ghtmar3TrueKn1ghtmar3 Member Posts: 161

    @XxAtomicAlfiexX said:

    that makes sense. what about the huntress?

    The huntress has the mind of a child, she wasn't allowed to mentally develop therefore the entity doesnt need much to push her to 

  • XxAtomicAlfiexXXxAtomicAlfiexX Member Posts: 395

    @TrueKn1ghtmar3
    thats also a fair point. she hunted humans for sport as well. but why hasnt she been gifted by the entity? unless you count the iridescent hatchet heads as a gift.

  • TrueKn1ghtmar3TrueKn1ghtmar3 Member Posts: 161

    @TrueKn1ghtmar3
    thats also a fair point. she hunted humans for sport as well. but why hasnt she been gifted by the entity? unless you count the iridescent hatchet heads as a gift.

    Lol would you really gift her anything? Js
  • XxAtomicAlfiexXXxAtomicAlfiexX Member Posts: 395

    @TrueKn1ghtmar3 said:
    XxAtomicAlfiexX said:

    @TrueKn1ghtmar3

    thats also a fair point. she hunted humans for sport as well. but why hasnt she been gifted by the entity? unless you count the iridescent hatchet heads as a gift.

    Lol would you really gift her anything? Js

    i would but im not the entity. the huntress does the entitys biding without question and if the entity can gift the wraith then the huntress should get gifts as well.

  • Detective_JonathanDetective_Jonathan Member Posts: 438

    @XxAtomicAlfiexX said:
    @TrueKn1ghtmar3
    thats also a fair point. she hunted humans for sport as well. but why hasnt she been gifted by the entity? unless you count the iridescent hatchet heads as a gift.

    I would say that the iri heads would be her gift. It does say that it was molded by the fog itself, and that it vibrates with power.

  • XxAtomicAlfiexXXxAtomicAlfiexX Member Posts: 395

    @Detective_Jonathan said:

    @XxAtomicAlfiexX said:
    @TrueKn1ghtmar3
    thats also a fair point. she hunted humans for sport as well. but why hasnt she been gifted by the entity? unless you count the iridescent hatchet heads as a gift.

    I would say that the iri heads would be her gift. It does say that it was molded by the fog itself, and that it vibrates with power.

    ok, so we're counting the hatchet heads as her gift.

  • Detective_JonathanDetective_Jonathan Member Posts: 438

    @XxAtomicAlfiexX said:

    @Detective_Jonathan said:

    @XxAtomicAlfiexX said:
    @TrueKn1ghtmar3
    thats also a fair point. she hunted humans for sport as well. but why hasnt she been gifted by the entity? unless you count the iridescent hatchet heads as a gift.

    I would say that the iri heads would be her gift. It does say that it was molded by the fog itself, and that it vibrates with power.

    ok, so we're counting the hatchet heads as her gift.

    Well, some of the hatchets, the ones like begrimed or rusty head are probably hers. The iri head would be the only gift from The Entity.

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