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Boons Are Killers Second Objective And That’s A Good Thing



  • Bennett_They1ThemBennett_They1Them Member Posts: 1,784

    yeah. I mean, my earbuds that I normally use just had the right earbud fizzle out, and I realized I straight up couldn't play.

  • PlaysByShadyPlaysByShady Member Posts: 282

    Riiight... killers doing totems is exactly like survivors doing totems...?

    Except there's 4 survivors, who can spread out and literally break/destroy the totems (i.e. disabling the benefits) whilst progressing the game. Whereas the killer has to choose between either maintaining chase, snuffing a boon (which can be relit), damaging a gen or searching for the other survivors, etc...

    How is that the same exactly? Because if the killer spent the match looking for totems (which one survivor could easily do, particularly if they're carrying a map, or detectives hunch or any other perk to let them see where they are), they'd quickly lose the game. And it wouldn't benefit them because, like I said, they can be relit... by multiple survivors!

  • SeraphorSeraphor Member Posts: 2,790
    edited November 2021

    Absolute nonsense and it shows you never play killer.

    When I play survivor, the experience is chill af. I can go around looking for totems, I can walk around the entire map, can sneak around the killer to line up a save. It's a leisurely stroll.

    Killer does not have time to "do bones". You stop sprinting for a split second and you've lost.

    Survivors need more objectives to keep them busy, killers need less.

  • PigMainBigBrainPigMainBigBrain Member Posts: 1,696

    Killers already had more objectives than survivors to deal with in the first place. They didn't need yet another objective.

  • TheDarkTyrantTheDarkTyrant Member Posts: 1,397

    I mean I'm a moron sometimes too but sometimes even I have some smarts left in me. No.

  • SmarulKusiaSmarulKusia Member Posts: 406
  • ElmosPayPigElmosPayPig Member Posts: 86

    You're relly not unless the killer is way better then your team and is getting downs left and right.

    Not to mention CoH boons save time in the long run because of quick self heals and even quicker group heals.

  • coolmacccoolmacc Member Posts: 70

    I wouldn’t say so it takes 14 sec to bless it only goes 24 meters and takes 1 sec to be snuffed

  • Alphasoul05Alphasoul05 Member Posts: 438
    edited November 2021

    Survivors have more time to work with than the killer, therefore adding another objective for the side that doesn't need it is most definitely not a good thing. Just like breakable wall are not a good thing because it never "feels good" that something that shouldn't be there, is there, and forces you to drop a chase that may have already been going on a while to break.

    If the killers had more time and could dictate matches then I'd agree, but as it currently stands that's simply not the case and Boon totems are one of the more recent additions to the reasons behind people simply not wanting to play killer. Just a free 5th perk for everyone that removes the pressure a killer can apply, then someone comes along and thinks it's a good thing because it benefits them.

  • RainehDazeRainehDaze Member Posts: 1,126

    Okay, how is it not true? What part of it are you disputing? If a killer spends 4s snuffing a boon, that survivors don't get 16s of cumulative generator progress uninterrupted?

    That every second the killer spends doing something not pressuring a survivor is 4s of time for the survivors?

    That 4x4s is greater than 14s?

  • Jplanas98Jplanas98 Member Posts: 448
    1. You don't have to loop. Another survivor can loop the killer while the others repair and complete generators. You can hide from the Killer the entire game and still complete your objective. Killers have no choice but to chase since in order to complete their objective they need to chase and down survivors. They also have to break pallets and doors to prevent survivors from re-using those loops to extend chases.
    2. You don't have to get 5 totems done. You only need to get as many totems done as there are hexes. If there are no hexes, totems don't need to be done. Same thing applies to Killer, except for the fact that we have to worry about the Boon going into effect multiple times. Once a hex is gone, it's gone. Except for undying which only works once.
    3. Until someone actually gets hooked your sole objective is to repair gens, which isn't difficult in the slightest. And if a survivor runs a killer for long enough, then you'll never really have to focus on those objectives. If a Killer is managing to get ran for that long, they're already failing their objective because they have no kills or hooks and they're allowing the other 3 survivors to finish their objective.
    4. Rarely ever are all 4 survivors being pressured at once. The only time that really happens is if there's a 3 gen going on. Your teammate may be getting chased, but you other 3 are perfectly fine for the time being. Meanwhile, Killers have to manage to somehow pressure 4 people at once when many of their abilities only help the in 1v1 situations. Making applying pressure to the entire team at once nearly impossible.

    You either don't play Killer at all, or are just willfully ignorant.

  • SeraphorSeraphor Member Posts: 2,790
    edited November 2021

    It is true.

    In the 4s it takes to snuff out a totem, survivors can have repaired 16 charges on a generator.

    If it happens to be the same gen, then you will have to kick that gen and keep all survivors off gens for 64 seconds to compensate for it.

    That's if it only takes 4s, which it doesn't...

    It takes 3s minimum to snuff a totem, 2.5s animation plus reaction time.

    It can take anywhere between 4 and ~16 seconds to travel to a Boon, if you even know where it is.

    Snuffing out a totem usually means dropping a chase, which can result in between 15 and 60 seconds to time wasted.

    Killers simply do not have the time to deal with this. I do not snuff out boons any more because it is more beneficial to allow survivors to have instant healing, no scratch marks, and no auras, than it is to go out of my way to snuff them out, multiple times.

    Imagine that, instant healing and total stealth being the lesser of two options...

    Which obviously means I can only play Plague or full expose builds.

  • beatddbbeatddb Member Posts: 532

    The only way boons would be balanced is if they took at least half of the time it takes to do a gen

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