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  • ilovedbd123ilovedbd123 Member Posts: 1,932

    Same, I have plenty of good times in my recollection.

    Most of them when funny ######### happens.

    Like hitting the deathslinger shot Max range with the iri add-on that made them instadowned, and seeing them shake their head to say "OH GOD NO, PLEASE NO" has been one of my first moments as a killer that I was laughing.

    Those moments keep us in the game

  • Dino7281Dino7281 Member Posts: 3,300

    Yeah, I used to have lot of games where survivors do fun things.

    I always had rule: if you make me laugh = you escape

    but that was just super rare for me lately.

    SBMM, Grade system, validation, undeserved nerfs (Wraith, DS) and CoH made me have a break.

    I am gonna play some games with new killer and see how it goes...

  • ilovedbd123ilovedbd123 Member Posts: 1,932

    My advice to you would be find the killer who you can have the most fun with.

    For me, it's nurse, deathslinger and huntress.

    Nurse because I always stand a chance of winning, and can hold my own Vs good players.

    Deathslinger because I go for wild trickshots, even if I miss, because it's fun.

    Huntress for the same reason as deathslinger.

    But thats just me

  • Dino7281Dino7281 Member Posts: 3,300
    edited November 2021

    For me it was Wraith and Deathslinger.


    Deathslinger is just not fun at all for me. Those nerfs killed him for me.

    Wraith got worse too, that basekit nerf was super undeserved imo and it just feels bad when you whiff around loops because of that shorter lunge...


    Deathslinger was main reason to keep playing, but he is just not fun anymore. They screwed him a lot imo


    I always liked hit & run, but then they created CoH...

  • ThiccBudhhaThiccBudhha Member Posts: 4,324
    edited November 2021

    Don't get me started on validation. I hate it so much.

  • Dino7281Dino7281 Member Posts: 3,300
    edited November 2021

    My issue is that they are saying it's to fix lagging killers etc.

    For ######### sake I have under 30 ms, so I really don't think it is deserved to get validated multiple times per game, because survivors have high ping. It's not my fault we see different things...

    I could accept pallets, but why the ######### they would make it more often with DH.

    They are not able to fix incorrect feedback, which is super frustrating every time you lose game for validation and make it more often... ######### that

    Validation made Wrath way less fun, because he probably gets it most -> pure M1 killer

    Then they nerf Wraith and create CoH... RIP

  • ilovedbd123ilovedbd123 Member Posts: 1,932

    Yeah, if legion wasn't bad enough XD.

    I feel COH will get a nerf soon, but even if it doesn't. Just play a slugging build, like deathslinger with force penance, sloppy, thanat and deerstalker. You can swap deer stalker for knock out if you want.

    But yeah, I understand what you mean.

  • dnj510dnj510 Member Posts: 421

    But there are, right? Should be some alternatives on PC but none quite hit the mark like DbD.

  • danielmaster87danielmaster87 Member Posts: 4,806

    The killer role actually has been victimized by the devs. They've had years to make the game balanced for both sides, but they've led us on all that time with this facade that killer nerfs/buffs and survivor nerfs/buffs are about the same, but that's not even close to the reality. The reality is that it if you want the game to be balanced for both sides, you will see each update be a 1 step forward, 2 steps back type of situation for killers. In some cases killers get nothing but nerfs.

    The core game is set up for the killer to get no kills when both they and the survivors play at their absolute best, and that coupled with constantly getting sh*t on and sold out by the developers in favor of survivor win simulator, starts to get on your nerves after a while. The only reason not every post on these forums are killer complaints is because there are so many survivor mains that are in denial about all this, and think stuff like BBQ is OP because they've played 40 hours of killer at low MMR.

  • danielmaster87danielmaster87 Member Posts: 4,806

    It's bad when you auto-lose because you picked a lower tier killer instead of a top tier one.

  • PulsarPulsar Member Posts: 10,623
    edited November 2021

    Sucks that I play on Console, doesn't it.

    I've been given the short end of the stick for years, I'm used to it by now.

    In all honestly, my cynicism from my own illness is probably leaking into my thoughts on DBD, I really can't tell anymore.

  • RaSavage42RaSavage42 Member Posts: 2,743

    I do agree that these "nerf this and nerf that" threads are getting annoying but on the other hand people want to talk about balance in this game

    It throws me for a loop when players have to give the time they played this game to validate their opinion and their highest "grade"

    Why can't people just say oh well that happened... and if they want to fix it then it's on them to do so... if not then 🤷‍♂️

    Forums are meant to take in information and feedback but for the most part it's where players can talk and discuss things about the game

    But yea let's buff some perks now... can we????

  • HannaciaHannacia Member Posts: 307

    Hehe i have the same rule. If survivor can make me laugh during the game i'll spare her or him, if the game gets to that point of course.

    If you are toxic and an ass ill tunnel you down. No regrets. You don't deserve to live.

    I played my ghostyboy yesterday...3 games i mustered the strenght in me to do. In these 3 games 2/3 i got 1 kill in both... 1!! both times i got red forest...horrible map for ghosty for 1 reason only . Its too big. I got people who had prove thyselfs and toolboxes so gens flew while i was in chase. It's fine ok i get it. But the goddamn flashlight clicking and tea bagging on the side...ok i started getting frustrated. I typed gg in the end game left ...went for the third game. I first saw kate on a gen and i figured ok she's oblivious to me i'll YOINK her off the gen and i did..insta rage quit..she dced on my arms. I was like oh greaat...im starting out great and i get these kind of survivors. Second i see Mikaela on a gen..i stalk her to 99 go next to her finish and down her...guess what she dced..

    At this point i was like ok...2 matches ive gotten nothing but bad luck and fast gens, now when my luck finally turns i get survivors that have never heard the word NO in their lives i think. I'm done. I killed the remaining 2 people and closed the game. I had 0 fun.

    I know 3 games isnt much i usually play more and usually its 15 games i win 2..

    Theres 4 survivors thats 16 perks for them to abuse right. Given mostly they use the same 4 perks but thats on them they could use more as a team even on SoloQ you can still think oh which perks would benefict my team better.

    Killer works alone we have 4 perks..and we have to use gen slowdown skills at least 2 of them to have any chance..how about killers get 2 perks slots more at least?

  • Dino7281Dino7281 Member Posts: 3,300

    16 perks, unless you count CoH, then it is something like 23...

  • HannaciaHannacia Member Posts: 307

    And we know how they love their CoH... keep seeing at least 1 almost every game. Usually 2 unless its a swf.

  • lordfartlordfart Member Posts: 538

    That is NUTS to me that people are in what's essntially an abusive relationship but with a game. I think coz my most recent ex gf was emotionally abusive (lasted 3 years) I can't fathom letting a NOT human put me in that dynamic haha

  • Dino7281Dino7281 Member Posts: 3,300
    edited November 2021

    Well, you don't really want more than 2.

    From our testing we had best results with 2 -> effect is always active and other survivors still get perks for free.

    I think it's broken. It makes hit&run not viable and then they are surprised there is more tunneling, like what else to do.

    That perk would be good even if that effect was only for owner, but it's for every survivor, just #########

  • RoaderFrostRoaderFrost Member Posts: 170

    2 more perk slots?

    If you can just put anything there... that would ruin the game.

    On the other hand, having 2 more slots for special perk types can be acceptable. Like +1 for Hex only and +1 for Scourge Hooks.

  • The_KrapperThe_Krapper Member Posts: 1,753

    They're just bad at the game and won't admit it, they can't handle losing so have to make excuses for why they lose because it can't be anything they could've done, BHVR needs to give out a box of tissues and limited edition diapers for these people and even then they would cry about the tissue quality and say they gave survivors the better tissues and gave them sandpaper, I'm the closest I've been to leaving the game because this community is a cancer full of egotistical people who are softer than Charmin and have to have everything handed to them with little effort , I've got 10,000 hours in this game on steam Im close to hanging it up and it's more because of the people in the community than the game itself though I will admit even gameplay has been pretty boring lately for both sides

  • SHYHERISTSHYHERIST Member Posts: 225

    Why should killers beg BHVR to intervene in high mmr? Why should we ask for something and humiliate ourselves in front of them? Let's just ditch the DBD. Let the survivors play against the bots.

  • MarigoriaMarigoria Member Posts: 3,528

    Someone had to say it.

    You cant really have balance related conversations on this forum because every thread turns into a "killer good survivor bad" and if you say something about it you just get mobbed for being a "survivor main", "never playing killer" or "being low mmr".

    It has turned into a pity party and fear mongering fest and people just join in on the hive mind instead of trying the game by themselves and seeing how it is actually like.

    Yes, the killer role is stressful and can be hard, but to the point of all of this on the forums? No.

  • StarLostStarLost Member Posts: 3,485

    Maybe VHS will scratch your itch.

    And...yeah. If I recall, you have thousands upon thousands of hours already played. It's only somewhat natural that it'd be getting old.

    The only games I've played for that long are Path of Exile, World of Warcraft and Starcraft 2, which are substantially more varied. And I'm sick to death of two of those.

  • dnj510dnj510 Member Posts: 421

    Oh, sorry. Thought you were a PC player. I'm on console too, so I have the short end as well.

  • MarigoriaMarigoria Member Posts: 3,528

    All the crying I've been seeing lately is killers on the forums.

  • IronKnight55IronKnight55 Member Posts: 2,090

    That's just it... You don't auto lose. I main Legion/Pig and I usually do well.

  • Johnny_XManJohnny_XMan Member Posts: 5,022

    That’s why the forums have a reputation of being “killer main”. Because even from a newer person’s perspective (even if it isn’t) it seems that way.

    Long before I joined the forums a friend of mine who used to play and no longer does, came on here, posted something about survivor balance and was quickly shut down by several people. Not like in a “let me educate you” kind of way, but more like a “you don’t know what you are talking about” way.

    It kind of saddens me that, people can’t even be respectful with how they go about disagreeing with others… and that just because a survivor player said it it must be wrong. Needless to say he never came back because of these forums and warned me when I first joined.

    I have had so many experiences with talking to/playing against other killer player mains that share a different opinion than that of the forums. That’s why I never hold my breath anymore when it comes to having a decent balance related conversation here. It usually ends up with me agreeing to disagree.

  • SunsetSherbetSunsetSherbet Member Posts: 939
    edited November 2021

    Much as you feel killers are free to find a different game to play if they dislike the abysmal state of DBD, you're free to find a different forum if you dislike the state of it.

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