This happens every time something terrible players used to think they're good gets nerfed.
Multi-blink Nurse? Nurse got a massive swing of the Hammer and down she went, taking both good and terrible Nurses down with her (good players couldn't deal with the bugs, bad players couldn't be asked now they no longer had 4 blinks without downsides, or old OmegaBlink:tm: to basically guarantee wins).
Forever Freddy? Down went his add-ons and you saw a lot less people stacking every possible slowdown. Some even used chase perks. Then he got hit again- perhaps a bit too hard- so off he fell.
Old Old Spirit? Remember when everyone said them adding in a vault animation and removing collision would kill her? Then Stridor went and she was still incredibly powerful? Then the most recent change happened and she's s t i l l incredible, just god forbid you have to use brainpower now.
Whenever there's something obviously overbearingly good then bad players will flock to it like moths to a lamp to make themselves feel better. Then, when it's taken away and they're faced with the reality, they figure out they only enjoyed stomping people and migrate to the next thing that takes the least effort for the greatest reward. It was Spirit, it was Freddy, and it was Nurse. Who it is now I genuinely don't know, I haven't played enough to see it yet.
But it's especially bad in this one. Even after the Nurse nerf. You can still see God nurses here and there on a lucky day. But the pick rate on Spirit is noticeably low at least from my experience and haven't seen a Good spirit after the nerf. Bizarre really.
Oh yeah, the same old song that never corresponds to reality of "you just stopped playing the killer because it's not easy anymore"
If nerfing killers only gets rid of the bad players, then were are all the "good" players? Because whenever a killer gets nerfed you just stop seeing it.
Where all are the good Freddys, Billys, Spirits who supposedly didn't get carried by add-ons and other stuff?
The good Freddy players were removed along with the second nerf to his power. Hence why I said he fell off.
The good Spirit players? @TheGannMan you've been called.
The good Billy players? Overheat. The only thing that needed a change were InstaSaw and they gutted the whole killer. Idiotic idea and I wish they'd get rid of it again.
Also I like you bringing up Billy despite me never mentioning him in my original comment. Really relevant there
"Nurse got a massive swing of the Hammer and down she went, taking both good and terrible Nurses down with her (good players couldn't deal with the bugs, bad players couldn't be asked now they no longer had 4 blinks without downsides, or old OmegaBlink:tm: to basically guarantee wins)."
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Blight. I just played a match against a blight that walked backwards. I’m assuming that’s what people call Lag flick. There are more things to do with him that controller players cant. I really hope he gets a fix so both console and pc are on par with this killer.
Sorry, but i don't really care about a streamer or one guy on the forum, i'm talking about the thousands of people that still play this game.
I brought up Billy because it's another case where people say "you just relied on add-ons", which is exactly what killed him in the first place; not having any good add-ons anymore.
Overheat is dumb but it's mostly a minor annyoance these days. Even if it would removed, no one would play him anyway just for that alone.
I still play her from time to time and i think she is still a decent killer. Mindgames and fakes still work around small loops because most survivors don't trust their reaction time. Mothers Daughter Ring + Dried Cherry Blossom is hands down the best add-on combination on her especially against Iron Will gamers.
However just like most killers she sucks to play on the new map.
For Nurse, it is true. Otz even had a video on his channel just a few days ago stating that 3 Blinks Nurse is easy mode. And back in the day 3 Blinks were way more common.
I also see a good share of Nurse players nowadays, not as many as before the Nerf, but more than the first few months after her Nerf.
When it comes to Spirit, she plays roughly the same. She is even easier than before, if you use MDR and the Cherry Blossom, the game plays for you at this point.
And regarding Billy, I still think that not the Overheat killed his playerbase. It was already dropping when they changed his animations before they added Overheat and nerfed the Add Ons. And up to this day Billy does not feel the same as before, his animations and FoV are different. The latter can be somewhat fixed with Shadowborn, but I totally get why someone does not want to run Shadowborn on Billy just to feel a little bit more like "old Billy".
Also his collision is so annoying. I played tons of Billy before the Nerf and since they changed the animations, I played a lot less, simply because he felt so much different.
(But also his Add Ons before were really making him easier. Billy should never had Chargetime Add Ons and his Cooldown-Add Ons made it almost not punishing to miss chainsaw hits... Let alone allowing him to change from mobility to chase way faster than nowadays)
Spirit has probably just regressed to the mean in terms of pick rate. Prior to her nerf I think she was one of the most popular characters at higher ranks. Now she’s probably the same popularity as most of the rest of the killers in the game. And since there’s almost 30 killers so far if most of the killers are picked evenly you’ll only see a specific one at most every 30 or so games on average.
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I want to play her, but to do that I would have to do endless level grinding. Though I don't think that would help your desire for good Spirits. :T
I'll play some spirit today, she's still good. Might spice it up with some prayer beads so my movement can't be tracked as easy.
This happens every time something terrible players used to think they're good gets nerfed.
Multi-blink Nurse? Nurse got a massive swing of the Hammer and down she went, taking both good and terrible Nurses down with her (good players couldn't deal with the bugs, bad players couldn't be asked now they no longer had 4 blinks without downsides, or old OmegaBlink:tm: to basically guarantee wins).
Forever Freddy? Down went his add-ons and you saw a lot less people stacking every possible slowdown. Some even used chase perks. Then he got hit again- perhaps a bit too hard- so off he fell.
Old Old Spirit? Remember when everyone said them adding in a vault animation and removing collision would kill her? Then Stridor went and she was still incredibly powerful? Then the most recent change happened and she's s t i l l incredible, just god forbid you have to use brainpower now.
Whenever there's something obviously overbearingly good then bad players will flock to it like moths to a lamp to make themselves feel better. Then, when it's taken away and they're faced with the reality, they figure out they only enjoyed stomping people and migrate to the next thing that takes the least effort for the greatest reward. It was Spirit, it was Freddy, and it was Nurse. Who it is now I genuinely don't know, I haven't played enough to see it yet.
I'm doing fine with her.
May she rest in piece, then.
The same, people just don't play her as much and I worry that she may have the same faith in terms of pick-rate.
I never seen her even before the nerf, now its more, maybe once in 50 games?
She is not scary like blight or nurse anymore so people playing other killers instead.
Good. We've had how many years of her every other game?
Typical community overreaction. Bhvr says "nerf" and everybody jumps a non-sinking ship.
Spirit is still very much s-tier. She's hilarious to play with a machine gun build.
Also, it might be a placebo, but I think they shadow buffed the sound of survivors' footstep in phase.
But it's especially bad in this one. Even after the Nurse nerf. You can still see God nurses here and there on a lucky day. But the pick rate on Spirit is noticeably low at least from my experience and haven't seen a Good spirit after the nerf. Bizarre really.
Oh yeah, the same old song that never corresponds to reality of "you just stopped playing the killer because it's not easy anymore"
If nerfing killers only gets rid of the bad players, then were are all the "good" players? Because whenever a killer gets nerfed you just stop seeing it.
Where all are the good Freddys, Billys, Spirits who supposedly didn't get carried by add-ons and other stuff?
The good Freddy players were removed along with the second nerf to his power. Hence why I said he fell off.
The good Spirit players? @TheGannMan you've been called.
The good Billy players? Overheat. The only thing that needed a change were InstaSaw and they gutted the whole killer. Idiotic idea and I wish they'd get rid of it again.
Also I like you bringing up Billy despite me never mentioning him in my original comment. Really relevant there
Like I've said, they should revert her collision nerf so both sides now have equal amount of information
I disagree. Some good players also stop playing those killers because it's not fun anymore.
I personally like nurse, but that cooldown is killing me.
Idk, I still see them once in a while.
For me it goes something like Plague-Doctor-Deathslinger-Spirit-Blight not particularly in that order but.
Play her base kit and see how you do.
"Nurse got a massive swing of the Hammer and down she went, taking both good and terrible Nurses down with her (good players couldn't deal with the bugs, bad players couldn't be asked now they no longer had 4 blinks without downsides, or old OmegaBlink:tm: to basically guarantee wins)."
Hey so I've highlighted something that might be relevant to your comment hope you enjoy
Blight. I just played a match against a blight that walked backwards. I’m assuming that’s what people call Lag flick. There are more things to do with him that controller players cant. I really hope he gets a fix so both console and pc are on par with this killer.
Sorry, but i don't really care about a streamer or one guy on the forum, i'm talking about the thousands of people that still play this game.
I brought up Billy because it's another case where people say "you just relied on add-ons", which is exactly what killed him in the first place; not having any good add-ons anymore.
Overheat is dumb but it's mostly a minor annyoance these days. Even if it would removed, no one would play him anyway just for that alone.
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I don't see her much but I've been playing her and I've had fun.
I still play her from time to time and i think she is still a decent killer. Mindgames and fakes still work around small loops because most survivors don't trust their reaction time. Mothers Daughter Ring + Dried Cherry Blossom is hands down the best add-on combination on her especially against Iron Will gamers.
However just like most killers she sucks to play on the new map.
For Nurse, it is true. Otz even had a video on his channel just a few days ago stating that 3 Blinks Nurse is easy mode. And back in the day 3 Blinks were way more common.
I also see a good share of Nurse players nowadays, not as many as before the Nerf, but more than the first few months after her Nerf.
When it comes to Spirit, she plays roughly the same. She is even easier than before, if you use MDR and the Cherry Blossom, the game plays for you at this point.
And regarding Billy, I still think that not the Overheat killed his playerbase. It was already dropping when they changed his animations before they added Overheat and nerfed the Add Ons. And up to this day Billy does not feel the same as before, his animations and FoV are different. The latter can be somewhat fixed with Shadowborn, but I totally get why someone does not want to run Shadowborn on Billy just to feel a little bit more like "old Billy".
Also his collision is so annoying. I played tons of Billy before the Nerf and since they changed the animations, I played a lot less, simply because he felt so much different.
(But also his Add Ons before were really making him easier. Billy should never had Chargetime Add Ons and his Cooldown-Add Ons made it almost not punishing to miss chainsaw hits... Let alone allowing him to change from mobility to chase way faster than nowadays)
I see Spirits still. I am on the fence about her nerf.
However, I do not think the community's reaction to the Deathslinger nerf is an exaggeration at all. That man was straight up assassinated.
(Message deleted because i misunderstood what you were saying. Ignore me lol)
Spirit has probably just regressed to the mean in terms of pick rate. Prior to her nerf I think she was one of the most popular characters at higher ranks. Now she’s probably the same popularity as most of the rest of the killers in the game. And since there’s almost 30 killers so far if most of the killers are picked evenly you’ll only see a specific one at most every 30 or so games on average.
No because now I'm curious as to what you said originally 🧍
You missed Billy losing instasaw and old cracked Billy.
I miss old Billy so even the people that spammed those addons have my respect 😔
Also InstaSaw was nowhere near as prevalent as OmegaBlink, Multi-Blink, Forever Freddy, or YakuRing Stridor Spirit. He has a pass
im guessing either artist or hag