You got a bad teammate. You already have enought perks.
Where do we draw the line then? What if I'm on a hook and the killer is close by and a teammate runs by and snatches e off the hook with no BT? Is that my fault? No. Now I'm getting tunneled by a killer and going down again all because I have garbage teammates. Is it my fault they are unhooking me near killer? No. Just like it's not my fault YOU are getting gen rushed. I play as killer EXTREMELY often and have only been Gen rushed maybe 3 or 4 times max since I've started playing this about 2 months ago. I get camped and tunneled ON A DAILY BASIS. If you guys can cry about Gen rushing, I think I'm allowed to complain about camping and tunneling. Throw in anti Gen rush that's fine idc it doesn't affect me in the slightest, but there has to be something implemented that doesn't allow survivors to be farmed. If a killer messes up the responsibility falls on the killer, if I make a bad loop that falls on me and I get it, but if a teammate makes a horrible play it shouldn't be on me. Having 3 teammates is a double edged sword and I'm sick of being on the opposite side of that sword
I'm ok with DS being base kit as soon as ruin is as well. deal?
I don’t care? lol
sorry it quoted you even though i clicked on the og post and i dont know a way to delete it lol
There should be some penalization, if killer hooks same surv twice in row. Or maybe not after 2nd hook, but definitely if killer tunnel one person until third hook.
Meanwhile I am writing this comment, I wait in lobby after nutshell game. I was tunneled by consol player with lags. 5000 points for game and 10 minutes waiting in lobby until my friends finish this trash game. He ignore others, he ignore everything. Just brainless tunneling.
I'm down with that
That could work but throw some sort of protection into it cause let's be real ruin is gone 20 sec in most of the time
Fine , let's remove all looping options , flashlights , toolkits to sabotage a hook and bodyblocking
Let's be real my friend I'm a killer to bud tunneling a guy straight from. The hook that's unnecessary but if he runs into me by accident that's fair game. Hard tunneling musst be prevented some how but without giving the survs the power to. Abuse it to harras the killer but then the game needs to be more balanced so killer have a chance without tunneling so hard
The killer community talking about entitled survivors this is the embodiment of entitled right here 😂
I kind of agree it's sad when less skilled players get tunneled out just because they aren't using DS.
Tunneling isn’t just about how skillful a survivor is.. a chimpanzee can hit a survivor one second immediately after they are unhooked. No skill will save you in that scenario.
SBMM prevents that you know. Do about 20-30 killer games then get the SBMM in and you'll just get survivors who know how to run you for 2-3 gens. If you break chase for another they'll run you for more gens. And guess what? They'll hold the game hostage. Until you just force them out.
Survivors need DS base-kit? Then killers should get NOED base kit. Hate to break it to you, but the other guy basically farmed you. In that situation the killer is going to take advantage of it. DS is just one get out of jail free card, just like dead hard. It's not even an anti tunnel perk it's just an annoying thing to waste time in the game.
I play killer a lot, no need to explain me what it is like.
Maybe the tunneling playstyle boosted your skill and now you are facing survivors who are way above your skill level if you try to play in a non-tunneling way.
If you don't tunnel the unhooked guy, it will not waste your time.
Or if you down the unhooked survivor just don't pick it up. They will waste a lot of time on the ground... A DS would insta heal them and stun you.
The devs are not interested in penalizing killers for tunneling. Why use the stick when you can provide the carrot instead? There should be something to incentivise killers to go for the rescuer rather than the unhooked survivor.
Agreed. Tunneling sucks. I've had it where I get hardcore tunneled and my teammates don't help at all. Make it so getting off the hook grants 30 seconds of immunity unless you go to a generator or do an action other than a locker action
30 secs of immunity are u even real?- do u know how much time 30 secs are? is pretty much half a gen done by one survivor, and then you have ds in top of that
Lol definitely not 30 seconds that's just forever in DBD. Make it to where the person who uses BT has an aura for 3 seconds and is the obsession. That way the people farming think twice about it and the people who genuinely wanna save someone take less heat while the person unhooked gets the CHANCE to escape
Well, what if you could? Wouldn't that be a better solution than something that punishes the killer because their opponents made a bad play?
Id actually be fine with nerfing or getting rid of new parts entirely if it means getting an anti camp
Lmao what. You have 60 seconds of immortality with DS basically. You're saying they should be able to get an instant heal and a stun? You can hide in a locker and basically get a free DS strike. You're just saying survivors should be god tier while as killer you're going against 16 perks with only 4 perks. Be rational here
Obviously you don't know what it's like lol. You're trying to give survivors a huge boost cause you got farmed. Sorry but me not tunneling or camping is what caused my MMR to go that high.
I think the best option for this would be some form of BT being basekit and making it much shorter, and making the survivor with it active lose collision. DS doesn't really need to be basekit, BT feels like the most reasonable one because honestly you should be going for the unhooker anyways.
Ok but also a built in tunnel wouldn't be ridiculous and you wouldn't need to harshly nerf gen times either, most anti slugging, tunneling, and camping things anyways get countered by just, not doing that so hard lmao. If you don't like needing to run 4 gen slowdown, then don't tell others they have to run 4 perks to counter killer plays. That being said, if you tell them to run said second chance perks, don't be mad that it is all that is used.
as in ruin would be base regression. no perk or hex needed.
Or you should face weaker killers who can't even tunnel you. Maybe down at Silver II?