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I see a lot around here about people saying killers are op, this killer needs nerfed, this killer perk needs nerfed, etc. And its always a complaint about the dumbest thing. People just constantly wanting killers to be made weaker. They get upset about camping and tunneling and slugging, yet those are the only real ways for killers to keep up once their mmr increases. There is a reason, you know. If the killers are made any more weaker, this willl just become a regular thing. You guys should actually join those calling for killer buffs, especially since there isn't much they can do against survivors with a decent amount of coordination. But, since YOU don't know how to deal with a certain killer, went against them once, and dc every other time you get the, you claim they are op. Survivors, do you all realize this game is a 4v1? And this game isn't you vs the killer, its you and your three other teammates versus the killer? In a good asymmetrical game, the side with 1 player should be at east as strong as the 4. Instead, this whiny community just keeps tilting the scales further and further to survivors, to the point where the killer role is basically just a joke at this point. Again, you are on a team of 4. The killer is on their own. They should be as strong as the four combined


  • NemmyMan3000NemmyMan3000 Member Posts: 112

    I honestly appreciate your take on this, as a killer main myself, a lot of killers i had fun with and were good at were nerfed because of whiny survivors or just because the devs felt like it. I have lost at least 2 killer mans due to the community wanting nerfs to killers every damn time.

  • Grandpa_Crack_PipeGrandpa_Crack_Pipe Member Posts: 2,062

    I'm glad someone FINALLY said it.

  • oliviaaoliviaa Member Posts: 102

    where are you reading ANYTHING on here that wants killers nerfed? this forum is heavily populated by killers that post anti-survivor things like nerfing dumb perks like DH and BT and complaining about body-blocking and flashlight clicks daily...

    you keep saying 'buff killer' but that is literally the biggest generalization ever, do u actually mean nerf survivor? bc that's what it sounds like

  • SleepyWilloSleepyWillo Member Posts: 2,083

    to be fair I see a lot more killer complaints about survivors than the other way around here...

    The issue I have with people saying things like "this game isn't you vs the killer, its you and your three other teammates versus the killer" is that in most of my solo q games I have at least 1 "teammate" trying to sandbag. The only way to ensure an actual 1v4 is SWF which isn't a fair way to look at things either.

    TL:DR I think anyone can voice complaints about things they find "unfun" in the game. It's those that yell "nerf x" because I should be able to "y" that I can't take seriously...

  • ImBrakingBikeImBrakingBike Member Posts: 454

    You can buff killers to balance the game around competitive SWF, or you can nerf killers to balance around 4-man Solo Qs, there's no in-between that will feel 100% balanced. What we get now may give you an easy match now and an unbeatable rival next match, it's quite random really. But the reason the majority of survivors won't join the cause is that most of them are just Solo Qs, not sweaty squads, so buffing killers will only hurt them not the others

  • StarLostStarLost Member Posts: 5,472

    Woof, yes.

    So many killers I enjoyed were napalmed, despite already being mediocre-at-best, when one or two small adjustments to problematic addons would have sufficed.

    Wraith triple nerfed? Check.

    Pinhead's addons gutted? Check.

    Slinger flattened? Check.

    Twins made even more clunky? Check.

    Absolutely bizarre nerfs to Hillbilly? Check and check.

    I don't think Cenobite or Wraith were destroying anyone outside of very new players. Billy had one problematic addon based playstyle and didn't need his entire kit mauled.

    The issue isn't so much nerfs, it's overnerfs without any help elsewhere in that killer's kit.

  • TheMadCatTheMadCat Member Posts: 1,913

    The real issue is the difference between four solo players and SWF. I don't know how we could balance Killers between the two. Solo players are not coordinated because they can't speak to each other, while SWF know where the Killer is ("They're chasing me on the shack"), when to make a save ("I take the aggro, go for it"), what generator is being repaired ("Don't bring the Killer there!"), etc.

    I wouldn't mind that we buff Killers if solo players get a small buff as well. Nothing fancy, but something to reduce the gap between solo and SWF, so having buff on Killers would make more sense.

    Also, I'm not sure the developpers listen to people who complain. They have data, they probably use them to decide how to balance instead of reading some random thoughts on the forums.

    I wasn't here before the Billy nerf... But does anyone asked for it? I read everywhere that everyone misses the old Billy.

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