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Decisive Strike is Balanced

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  • EntityDispleasedEntityDispleased Member Posts: 1,449
    Slayer said:

    @Tsulan said:
    Faceless said:

    No, this is not a bait. Ds is a balanced perk.

    Unbreakable is a balanced perk too.

    Deliverance

    and etc.

    If this is not bait, then what is the DS counter?

    Protecting gens that are close to each other, tunneling , camping . Being able to kill one survivor fast in total then gen rush is not a thing anymore

    You're cheesing your way at trying to make it seem balanced. Having the killer resort to boring gameplay is not a solution nor is it a direct counter to DS. 
  • TsulanTsulan Member Posts: 5,614
    Slayer said:

    Killer can hook you whereever he wants with iron grasp and lets assume he wants to hook you on some stratetig hook where from you wont be able to escape if he s decent enough what is counter to that? DS

    Iron Grasp is weak af.
    It doesn't counter DS. 
    DS has effectively no counters. 
    Enduring just shortens the stun but the survivor gets off the shoulder. 
    Dribbling only works for the obsession and when the hook is near + no one body blocks. 

    Oh and the situation you mentioned can be countered by BT.
  • SlayerSlayer Member Posts: 1,148

    @Tsulan said:
    Slayer said:

    Killer can hook you whereever he wants with iron grasp and lets assume he wants to hook you on some stratetig hook where from you wont be able to escape if he s decent enough what is counter to that? DS

    Iron Grasp is weak af.
    It doesn't counter DS. 
    DS has effectively no counters. 
    Enduring just shortens the stun but the survivor gets off the shoulder. 
    Dribbling only works for the obsession and when the hook is near + no one body blocks. 

    Oh and the situation you mentioned can be countered by BT.

    Tunneling can be countered by BT ? Lol

  • SlayerSlayer Member Posts: 1,148
    edited January 2019

    You're cheesing your way at trying to make it seem balanced. Having the killer resort to boring gameplay is not a solution nor is it a direct counter to DS. 

    If killer is strong and can pressure gens then yeah i wont play that way

  • ChesterTheMolesterChesterTheMolester Member Posts: 2,771
    Slayer said:

    You're cheesing your way at trying to make it seem balanced. Having the killer resort to boring gameplay is not a solution nor is it a direct counter to DS. 

    If killer is strong and can pressure gens then yeah i wont play that way

    Kind of hard to chase, pressure gens and deal with Dstrikes on top at the same time, the Killer is at the end of the day just one person.
  • TsulanTsulan Member Posts: 5,614
    Slayer said:

    @Tsulan said:
    Slayer said:

    Killer can hook you whereever he wants with iron grasp and lets assume he wants to hook you on some stratetig hook where from you wont be able to escape if he s decent enough what is counter to that? DS

    Iron Grasp is weak af.
    It doesn't counter DS. 
    DS has effectively no counters. 
    Enduring just shortens the stun but the survivor gets off the shoulder. 
    Dribbling only works for the obsession and when the hook is near + no one body blocks. 

    Oh and the situation you mentioned can be countered by BT.

    Tunneling can be countered by BT ? Lol

    Finding the first survivor takes between 30 and 60 seconds. 
    First Chase takes 60+ seconds. 15 seconds to carry the survivor to the hook.
    Unhook right before struggling = 60 of gen repair time. 
    BT save = 2 hits = chase of at least 45 seconds + 15 seconds carry to hook.
    Unhook right before struggling ends = almost 60 seconds + 2 hits...
    At this stage the gates should be open. Body block and easy escapes. 

    More than enough time to complete all 5 gens. Since all 5 can be repaired in 3 minutes or less. 
  • TsulanTsulan Member Posts: 5,614
    When I have to explain survivors how easy it is to escape...
  • SlayerSlayer Member Posts: 1,148

    @Tsulan said:
    Slayer said:

    @Tsulan said:

    Slayer said:

    Killer can hook you whereever he wants with iron grasp and lets assume he wants to hook you on some stratetig hook where from you wont be able to escape if he s decent enough what is counter to that? DS
    
    
    
    Iron Grasp is weak af.
    

    It doesn't counter DS. 

    DS has effectively no counters. 

    Enduring just shortens the stun but the survivor gets off the shoulder. 

    Dribbling only works for the obsession and when the hook is near + no one body blocks. 

    Oh and the situation you mentioned can be countered by BT.

    Tunneling can be countered by BT ? Lol

    Finding the first survivor takes between 30 and 60 seconds. 
    First Chase takes 60+ seconds. 15 seconds to carry the survivor to the hook.
    Unhook right before struggling = 60 of gen repair time. 
    BT save = 2 hits = chase of at least 45 seconds + 15 seconds carry to hook.
    Unhook right before struggling ends = almost 60 seconds + 2 hits...
    At this stage the gates should be open. Body block and easy escapes. 

    More than enough time to complete all 5 gens. Since all 5 can be repaired in 3 minutes or less. 

    Chase doesnt take 60 seconds if you re good or play with strong addons it doesnt take 120 seconds for one survivor to die unless you camp the game has more other aspects which you seems to ignore

  • SlayerSlayer Member Posts: 1,148

    @Tsulan said:
    Slayer said:

    @Tsulan said:

    Slayer said:

    Killer can hook you whereever he wants with iron grasp and lets assume he wants to hook you on some stratetig hook where from you wont be able to escape if he s decent enough what is counter to that? DS
    
    
    
    Iron Grasp is weak af.
    

    It doesn't counter DS. 

    DS has effectively no counters. 

    Enduring just shortens the stun but the survivor gets off the shoulder. 

    Dribbling only works for the obsession and when the hook is near + no one body blocks. 

    Oh and the situation you mentioned can be countered by BT.

    Tunneling can be countered by BT ? Lol

    Finding the first survivor takes between 30 and 60 seconds. 
    First Chase takes 60+ seconds. 15 seconds to carry the survivor to the hook.
    Unhook right before struggling = 60 of gen repair time. 
    BT save = 2 hits = chase of at least 45 seconds + 15 seconds carry to hook.
    Unhook right before struggling ends = almost 60 seconds + 2 hits...
    At this stage the gates should be open. Body block and easy escapes. 

    More than enough time to complete all 5 gens. Since all 5 can be repaired in 3 minutes or less. 

    The chase doesnt long for 60 s if youre good or play with strong addons it doesnt take 2 mins for survivor to die the game has more aspects which you seem to ignore

  • TsulanTsulan Member Posts: 5,614
    Slayer said:

    @Tsulan said:
    Slayer said:

    @Tsulan said:

    Slayer said:

    Killer can hook you whereever he wants with iron grasp and lets assume he wants to hook you on some stratetig hook where from you wont be able to escape if he s decent enough what is counter to that? DS
    
    
    
    Iron Grasp is weak af.
    

    It doesn't counter DS. 

    DS has effectively no counters. 

    Enduring just shortens the stun but the survivor gets off the shoulder. 

    Dribbling only works for the obsession and when the hook is near + no one body blocks. 

    Oh and the situation you mentioned can be countered by BT.

    Tunneling can be countered by BT ? Lol

    Finding the first survivor takes between 30 and 60 seconds. 
    First Chase takes 60+ seconds. 15 seconds to carry the survivor to the hook.
    Unhook right before struggling = 60 of gen repair time. 
    BT save = 2 hits = chase of at least 45 seconds + 15 seconds carry to hook.
    Unhook right before struggling ends = almost 60 seconds + 2 hits...
    At this stage the gates should be open. Body block and easy escapes. 

    More than enough time to complete all 5 gens. Since all 5 can be repaired in 3 minutes or less. 

    Chase doesnt take 60 seconds if you re good or play with strong addons it doesnt take 120 seconds for one survivor to die unless you camp the game has more other aspects which you seems to ignore

    Hook stages are 120 seconds. 
    If the survivor is playing like a noob, no amount of second chance perks and swf friends will help him survive against a good killer. 

    Maybe that survivor isn't on the rank he belongs to. 
  • ChesterTheMolesterChesterTheMolester Member Posts: 2,771
    edited January 2019
    Slayer said:

    @Tsulan said:
    Slayer said:

    @Tsulan said:

    Slayer said:

    Killer can hook you whereever he wants with iron grasp and lets assume he wants to hook you on some stratetig hook where from you wont be able to escape if he s decent enough what is counter to that? DS
    
    
    
    Iron Grasp is weak af.
    

    It doesn't counter DS. 

    DS has effectively no counters. 

    Enduring just shortens the stun but the survivor gets off the shoulder. 

    Dribbling only works for the obsession and when the hook is near + no one body blocks. 

    Oh and the situation you mentioned can be countered by BT.

    Tunneling can be countered by BT ? Lol

    Finding the first survivor takes between 30 and 60 seconds. 
    First Chase takes 60+ seconds. 15 seconds to carry the survivor to the hook.
    Unhook right before struggling = 60 of gen repair time. 
    BT save = 2 hits = chase of at least 45 seconds + 15 seconds carry to hook.
    Unhook right before struggling ends = almost 60 seconds + 2 hits...
    At this stage the gates should be open. Body block and easy escapes. 

    More than enough time to complete all 5 gens. Since all 5 can be repaired in 3 minutes or less. 

    The chase doesnt long for 60 s if youre good or play with strong addons it doesnt take 2 mins for survivor to die the game has more aspects which you seem to ignore

    2 minutes is the time it takes it takes for a full sacrifice without chase. Are you confusing DBD with some other game or are you just really that desperate trying to sell some kool aid?
  • SnakeSound222SnakeSound222 Member Posts: 3,699
    edited January 2019
    Tsulan said:
    Slayer said:

    Killer can hook you whereever he wants with iron grasp and lets assume he wants to hook you on some stratetig hook where from you wont be able to escape if he s decent enough what is counter to that? DS

    Iron Grasp is weak af.
    It doesn't counter DS. 
    DS has effectively no counters. 
    Enduring just shortens the stun but the survivor gets off the shoulder. 
    Dribbling only works for the obsession and when the hook is near + no one body blocks. 

    Oh and the situation you mentioned can be countered by BT.
    Don’t forget Unnerving Presence and Doc’s Madness. Those two “counters” rely on the Survivor not being that good at hitting skill checks or getting unlucky. 
  • inkedsoulzinkedsoulz Member Posts: 93

    @Faceless said:
    Noed is weak in SWF. But in solo survivor it is too strong.

    A good killer who puts pressure on the map does not let the survivors make totems, they simply make generators and want to get out the fastest. even if it's swf

    Noed still has the killer speed boost factor which makes a perk used in almost every game.
    Noed Hillbilly, noed nurse, noed michael myers and noed leatherface leave the game with an absurd pressure.

    NOED billy..... At this point we can consider this BAIT

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