Most likely cause Hour of the witch was released on a midchapter instead of a actual chapter so the revisit of it will happen on the next chapter instead of how it usually would be this midchapter.
Or CoH is fine on their stats. There are a lot and i mean a lot of survivors who are using it wrong and throwing games chasing boons while never touching gens
Reading discussions over the past couple of days and seems like a lot of other killer players are rightfully feeling ######### on because of the devs completely ignoring the broken CoH perk in this update. It’s clear now that killer feedback won’t be listened to, so if you play killer and want things to change, the only way that’s going to happen is to stopplayingkiller. Make survivor queues go through the roof until enough survivors complain that the devs will maybe think about quality of life improvements for the killer side. I play both sides about equally so I have seen how frustrating CoH is for the killer side and how much easier it has make my matches on the survivor side. The only people who think CoH is “fine” are 1) killers who live and breathe the game and are good enough to stomp most teams no matter what; and 2) people who have never played killer, at least above non-noob survivors
Wouldn't be surprised if they think it's fine because their data includes a ton of survivors who are bad at using it and aren't setting up boons properly. Which is something I definitely see sometimes.
Why nerfed an add-on that requires more stalk than usual? You need at least 3 people fully stalked before using this. If survivors are smart then only one person should be empty.
Its simple the dev dont think the perk is game changing in their head the survivor waste 14 sec to do a totem that mean the game is 14 sec longer so killer have more time to kill the survivor they dont see the fact that survivor heal themself in 16 sec or faster depending if they have a med kit or not
My idea to change CoH is to model it after the last change to Built to Last. When it is snuffed out and rebooned, it it less effective with healing and a smaller range each time.
They'll nerf circle of healing after they make what they find to be enough money off of Mikaela and then we need to wait another 2 years. Then they'll nerf CoH.
On a serious note, I don't understand how they don't see a problem with CoH. They'll probably give the same bad argument they give for why they can't touch Dead Head, I mean Dead Hard. "This perk is working as intended and so it doesn't need to be changed." Hasn't stopped them in the past from nerfing killers and their kits, even if they were finally in a solid position.
It’s just a little concerning that there’s nothing being said about it. Even if there’s a plan for it to be reworked, a little notice would be cool I guess :|
It’s clear that the majority of the DbD playerbase (and at least in my experience; the players I play with in my region - OCE) aren’t a fan of the perk at all.
Between a majority of the maps being survivor-sided, the existence of DH and now COH.. the developers really want killers to just tunnel every survivor to the death lol
The only way to be strategic against a good team is to hardcore tunnel or proxy camp the booners out of the game hoping another survivor will be lurking around for a save.
But even then, the gens will be smashed out in the interim.
I find the introduction of boons with a complete disregard for how their game operates actually hilarious.
CoH:-
Trapper - Someone stepped in a trap that you're not near and escaped and you think you can go down them, lol that's cute
Wraith - Sorry, no more hit and run now
Huntress - Srew your cross maps
Legion - Sorry, no more hit and run now
Ghost Face - Insta down or become an M1 killer with no power
Oni - Sorry, no more hit and run now to get blood
Twins - You injured someone with Victor? Well guess what, they're on the other side of the map and healed now
Nemisis - Your Zombies actually managed to injure someone? Well now that survivor is occupied for 2 seconds (YAY)
Artist - You crossed mapped someone with a crow? That's nice, they're healed. (Also screw Pentimento)
SS:-
Billy - Screw your BBQ snipes
Nurse - You hit someone and now they have Iron Will, well you better go find someone else to chase, they're long gone. And also screw your BBQ snipes and whilst we're at it, screw Nurses calling.
Hag - Screw your aura add-on for triggered traps.
Doc - Screw your aura add-on for tier ups
Huntress - Screw your BBQ cross maps
Freddy - Good lucking figuring out which gen they're on without BBQ
Spirit - Screw your BBQ snipes
Oni - Screw your BBQ snipes
Blight - Screw your BBQ snipes
Twins - Screw sending Victor after BBQ procs
Artist - Screw your BBQ procs (Also screw Pentimento)
Unbreakable Boon:-
Trapper - You have the dying state add-on? That's nice
Billy - Trying to slug for pressure? That's cute
Nurse - Trying to slug for pressure? Adorable
Myers - Trying to slug to get more T3 value? Think again!
Hag - Trying to slug for pressure because another trap was triggered? Too bad
Huntress - You cross mapped downed someone? That's nice, they're already up
Bubba - Trying to slug for pressure? Well stop being so toxic and take off Insidious and leave the basement
Pig - Want to leave your obsession slugged for a little bit because they're on death hook? Well now all the gens are done and you're screwed.
Plague - Trying to slug to get more benefit from your Corrupt Purge? Too cute
Oni - Trying to slug to get more out of your Demon Dash? This is a survivors game now
Blight - Running Alchemist's Ring and wanting to slug for pressure? Well guess what, use a different add-on (and stop running Tinkerer, you ain't cool)
Twins - You downed someone with Victor across the map? Well that was a waste of time
Nemisis - Your Zombies actually did something and downed someone? Hope you were paying attention to where they were, else you may as well forget about it.
Pinhead - Want to slug someone because the box is being solved? Screw it, who needs Chain Hunt anyway
Artist - You want to try cross map down someone? May as well eat your own crows. (Also screw Pentimento)
All 3 boons together:-
Killers - It's ok, I'll just go play a different game. I hear VHS is good!
Perhaps if a DBD dev could be tagged in this post / look into how it detriments each individual killer's powers by looking at your comment may provide some valuable feedback.
Comments
I dont think they actually play their game
'Eventually' is the key word. Maybe in 2 years, once her DLC stops raking in the bucks for having such a busted perk. 🧐
Survivors pump more money into the game. Any significant survivors nerfs will take a long time.
I can only think of 2 reasons
Most likely cause Hour of the witch was released on a midchapter instead of a actual chapter so the revisit of it will happen on the next chapter instead of how it usually would be this midchapter.
Or CoH is fine on their stats. There are a lot and i mean a lot of survivors who are using it wrong and throwing games chasing boons while never touching gens
Reading discussions over the past couple of days and seems like a lot of other killer players are rightfully feeling ######### on because of the devs completely ignoring the broken CoH perk in this update. It’s clear now that killer feedback won’t be listened to, so if you play killer and want things to change, the only way that’s going to happen is to stop playing killer. Make survivor queues go through the roof until enough survivors complain that the devs will maybe think about quality of life improvements for the killer side. I play both sides about equally so I have seen how frustrating CoH is for the killer side and how much easier it has make my matches on the survivor side. The only people who think CoH is “fine” are 1) killers who live and breathe the game and are good enough to stomp most teams no matter what; and 2) people who have never played killer, at least above non-noob survivors
Oh my god you're alive
It’s 100% clear that they don’t, at least not enough to know what the experience of their customers is like.
😎 You see nothing...
The data shows Clown as outperforming every other Killer, which is why we nerfed his two best add-ons.
Wouldn't be surprised if they think it's fine because their data includes a ton of survivors who are bad at using it and aren't setting up boons properly. Which is something I definitely see sometimes.
It's also probably due to their schedule... even if they did show us what they have planned it comes off as "them not listening to the community"
Yea I don't get why certain things happen but it happened so let us learn how everything plays now
Why nerfed an add-on that requires more stalk than usual? You need at least 3 people fully stalked before using this. If survivors are smart then only one person should be empty.
Its simple the dev dont think the perk is game changing in their head the survivor waste 14 sec to do a totem that mean the game is 14 sec longer so killer have more time to kill the survivor they dont see the fact that survivor heal themself in 16 sec or faster depending if they have a med kit or not
@IamFran totally agree with you here. Mettle of Man was piped down ASAP. That perk was so busted on release.
Maybe it would be prudent for the developers to include forum feedback with in-game statistics.
Hour of the witch DLC is still selling
Why would any sane person waste auric cells/actual money on their original chapters, though? I only use shards for that.
They want the unique cosmetic.
better nerf clown and twins
Personally I think that the healing speed of CoH needs to be nerfed to like 70-80% and cap self-healing at 100%. And that basically fixes the issue
My idea to change CoH is to model it after the last change to Built to Last. When it is snuffed out and rebooned, it it less effective with healing and a smaller range each time.
I refuse to use Boons unless I have a double stamped rainbow burrito.
Maybe too many people run around, do nothing and die and have skewed the data on Boons.
I know from my own anecdotes I've come to dislike Mike Reid players because they are the new Claudettes.
They'll nerf circle of healing after they make what they find to be enough money off of Mikaela and then we need to wait another 2 years. Then they'll nerf CoH.
On a serious note, I don't understand how they don't see a problem with CoH. They'll probably give the same bad argument they give for why they can't touch Dead Head, I mean Dead Hard. "This perk is working as intended and so it doesn't need to be changed." Hasn't stopped them in the past from nerfing killers and their kits, even if they were finally in a solid position.
It’s just a little concerning that there’s nothing being said about it. Even if there’s a plan for it to be reworked, a little notice would be cool I guess :|
It’s clear that the majority of the DbD playerbase (and at least in my experience; the players I play with in my region - OCE) aren’t a fan of the perk at all.
Between a majority of the maps being survivor-sided, the existence of DH and now COH.. the developers really want killers to just tunnel every survivor to the death lol
Devs don't play their game so they need months or even years of stats before they do any changes
The only way to be strategic against a good team is to hardcore tunnel or proxy camp the booners out of the game hoping another survivor will be lurking around for a save.
But even then, the gens will be smashed out in the interim.
its a too abusable
I find the introduction of boons with a complete disregard for how their game operates actually hilarious.
CoH:-
Trapper - Someone stepped in a trap that you're not near and escaped and you think you can go down them, lol that's cute
Wraith - Sorry, no more hit and run now
Huntress - Srew your cross maps
Legion - Sorry, no more hit and run now
Ghost Face - Insta down or become an M1 killer with no power
Oni - Sorry, no more hit and run now to get blood
Twins - You injured someone with Victor? Well guess what, they're on the other side of the map and healed now
Nemisis - Your Zombies actually managed to injure someone? Well now that survivor is occupied for 2 seconds (YAY)
Artist - You crossed mapped someone with a crow? That's nice, they're healed. (Also screw Pentimento)
SS:-
Billy - Screw your BBQ snipes
Nurse - You hit someone and now they have Iron Will, well you better go find someone else to chase, they're long gone. And also screw your BBQ snipes and whilst we're at it, screw Nurses calling.
Hag - Screw your aura add-on for triggered traps.
Doc - Screw your aura add-on for tier ups
Huntress - Screw your BBQ cross maps
Freddy - Good lucking figuring out which gen they're on without BBQ
Spirit - Screw your BBQ snipes
Oni - Screw your BBQ snipes
Blight - Screw your BBQ snipes
Twins - Screw sending Victor after BBQ procs
Artist - Screw your BBQ procs (Also screw Pentimento)
Unbreakable Boon:-
Trapper - You have the dying state add-on? That's nice
Billy - Trying to slug for pressure? That's cute
Nurse - Trying to slug for pressure? Adorable
Myers - Trying to slug to get more T3 value? Think again!
Hag - Trying to slug for pressure because another trap was triggered? Too bad
Huntress - You cross mapped downed someone? That's nice, they're already up
Bubba - Trying to slug for pressure? Well stop being so toxic and take off Insidious and leave the basement
Pig - Want to leave your obsession slugged for a little bit because they're on death hook? Well now all the gens are done and you're screwed.
Plague - Trying to slug to get more benefit from your Corrupt Purge? Too cute
Oni - Trying to slug to get more out of your Demon Dash? This is a survivors game now
Blight - Running Alchemist's Ring and wanting to slug for pressure? Well guess what, use a different add-on (and stop running Tinkerer, you ain't cool)
Twins - You downed someone with Victor across the map? Well that was a waste of time
Nemisis - Your Zombies actually did something and downed someone? Hope you were paying attention to where they were, else you may as well forget about it.
Pinhead - Want to slug someone because the box is being solved? Screw it, who needs Chain Hunt anyway
Artist - You want to try cross map down someone? May as well eat your own crows. (Also screw Pentimento)
All 3 boons together:-
Killers - It's ok, I'll just go play a different game. I hear VHS is good!
@Alec_Morgenstern your comment is perfectly accurate.
Perhaps if a DBD dev could be tagged in this post / look into how it detriments each individual killer's powers by looking at your comment may provide some valuable feedback.
@Peanits - Are there any plans to rework boons in the near future?
I look forward to hearing from you.