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How about 1600 auric cells?



  • PredatedPredated Member Posts: 2,456

    Copyright ownership and in game ownership go hand in hand when there are licenses involved, read the ToS.

    And your belief in justice isnt justice. Justice is both sides being treated the way they deserve. What you've been claiming is literally only taking because you believe you were wronged, when the action is made due to racist abuse to take care of many people who have been wronged. Since the decision wasnt made around just removing it for the sake of removing it, your argument of "justice" kinda falls flat. Which is why I called you Karen in the first place: a person claiming to be in the right, regardless of circumstance, and demanding special treatment for being "wronged" in a situation that isnt about them.

    And funny how you keep jumping to bootlicking, when you're the one stuck with your own head up your as$. As for rights, yeah, I fight for rights. Actual things that people actually deserve.

    You dont deserve auric cells because people abused a free skin for racism. Auric cells are strictly about things that were purchased with money. You didnt lose Bubba. The skins werent advertised(people talked about it BECAUSE it was free and unexpected). You didnt pay anything extra to get those faces.

  • PredatedPredated Member Posts: 2,456

    By that logic, the prerequisite to unlock that, is to buy DBD, which costs money too, and since DBD recieves updates and is no longer the game I bought in 2016, arguably, a full refund wouldnt be amiss.

    "a licensed character that can ONLY be bought with auric cells." also, false, you can buy the DLC, for quite cheap too. I've seen the DLC be as cheap as 50 cents, meaning 50 auric cells is the best you can argue, 50 auric cells isnt gonna do much.

  • GuyFawxGuyFawx Member Posts: 1,784

    I have a question do we know if its 6k for each unlocked face or 6k for all of them?

  • BenihimeWrathBenihimeWrath Member Posts: 968

    I mean, if you decided to stop playing the game just because BHVR removed the cosmetics then I could see trying to make an argument for a refund. But you'd probably get slapped with time limitations.

    Also some people can't just buy the DLC at massively discounted rates. Please check your PC/steam privilege at the door.

  • PredatedPredated Member Posts: 2,456

    Ah yes, so, paying 500 auric cells means you deserve 1600 auric cells? Assuming you didnt buy Leatherface DLC at a discount? Let alone that back when Bubba came out, there werent many survivors and getting all 4 masks wasnt even a challenge at all, you'd literally unlock them on accident within a week. Right now, its still not even extra steps to unlock them, it's literally just playing the game untill you passively get them.

    Taking all that into consideration, that means that there are players who got the masks without any effort and people who got the DLC for 50 cents. Which is practically free.

    Now, 6k iri shards also takes some time to collect over time. I'd say about as long as it takes to get all the masks.

    Remember Heartstone and the release of Shudderwock? Did those people who bought Shudderwock deserve a full refund because Shudderwock was absolutely gamebreaking and in need of a nerf? No. They did not. Changes are part of a game. As long as your purchase isnt removed, you are not elligable for a refund. Auric cells are part of a refund policy. Bubba is not removed, your purchase is not removed. BHVR is in a position where they could have deleted it, unannounced, and never give anything in return, because those skins were free additions, werent advertised as a part of the sales.

    Heck, you would actually have a better argument when they changed Franklins Demise last year, since that WAS part of the advertising around Bubba.

  • PredatedPredated Member Posts: 2,456

    "Also some people can't just buy the DLC at massively discounted rates. Please check your PC/steam privilege at the door."

    Yeah, but you cant really give people extra or less because they own dbd on a different platform. You have to treat people equally on this one, and since Bubba has been out for 4+ years, 6k is quite a lot.

    Personally, I would have given bubba the faces of Trapper, Wraith and Billy, but that would require a deal with the license holders since you cant just add a cosmetic to replace another one. That's not how it works.

  • JacksonWiseJacksonWise Member Posts: 619

    I 100% agree. You earned those cosmetics through play time, it makes sense they would try to compensate with currency earned through playtime.

    Let's also keep in mind this isn't something they even HAVE to do in the first place. They could just remove the cosmetics outright. They couldn't be bought so there is not even a financial obligation.

    6,000 Iri shards is VERY generous, especially when they already gave away several thousand through last month. Do the players on this forum who disagree even realize how many hours of grinding 6,000 free Iri shards saves you? And they're giving these away to people who have just PLAYED Cannibal. You don't even have to have earned all the faces like some people have.

  • BenihimeWrathBenihimeWrath Member Posts: 968

    This is how I know you are a troll. You provide an argument that counters your own previous argument. That means there was no reason for you to bring up the 50 auric cell cost at all since BHVR has to treat all players equally anyway.

    6,000 iri shards isn't even enough shards to get 1 'good' cosmetic. Like yeah, I guess its 450k BP, whoop-dee-doo.

    Personally I think BHVR should have doubled down on the original survivor masks and have it just be one of those things that comes out with every survivor like their twitch shirt/ugly sweater. From my view, them removing the masks is an admittance that the purpose of smartface was to be black face instead of owning that it was just a thematic cosmetic decision and that anyone who says otherwise is blowing everything out of proportion.

  • bm33bm33 Member Posts: 5,967

    Instead of masks why not make his weapon out of things from the survivors? Kill bunch of Megs get a hammer made out of sneakers, bunch of Claudettes get hammer made out of flower pots, bunch of Kate's get a guitar to hit people with, bunch of Bills get a giant cigarette. 😂

  • testertester Member Posts: 569

    Because they want you to spend $$ on paid cosmetics. Free unlocks reduce revenue.

  • katoptriskatoptris Member Posts: 2,312

    Keep asking and you will get a nerfed to one of the killer's side.

  • Dito175Dito175 Member Posts: 1,156

    Agreed, i'd rather get a purple outfit with these shards than stay on the foruns crying over a recolor

  • hailxsatanxeveryxdayhailxsatanxeveryxday Member Posts: 336

    1600? I'm not saying that wouldn't be nice, but the price of the killer is $5.00.

    I think 500 auric cells would be plenty, although I'm not saying "no" to 6000 free shards considering that I don't have every killer unlocked and I only bought Bubba for BBQ.

  • PredatedPredated Member Posts: 2,456

    Oh, the reason I brought up the 50 auric cells, is that they would have to assume EVERYONE has been able to buy the dlc for something worth 50 auric cells. It would be unfair if someone spend 5$ on 500 auric cells to buy Bubba when someone else bought it for 50 cents, and then the guy with 50 cents essentially getting a 5$ refund. Treating all players equally here, would mean refunding everyone 50 auric cells.

    "Personally I think BHVR should have doubled down on the original survivor masks and have it just be one of those things that comes out with every survivor like their twitch shirt/ugly sweater. From my view, them removing the masks is an admittance that the purpose of smartface was to be black face instead of owning that it was just a thematic cosmetic decision and that anyone who says otherwise is blowing everything out of proportion."

    BHVR was doubling down on this, for 4 years. Its not untill the past 6 months that people have increasingly been using the face to harass people. And its not even about blackface, its literally that people make it very clear to harass people by streamsniping people, paying for programs to massively increase the timing of matchmaking to match up with the streamer(yes, this software exists, and yes, people pay for it).

    Its basically as if you were burning a cross in someone's lawn. You wouldnt need to be wearing a KKK uniform to show you were racist, all you needed to do was burn a cross in their lawn. It's not about blackface. That is a complete misconception.

    Also, 6k shards for free cosmetics is quite a lot, the survivor masks werent even really good either. It does limit the customization options for Bubba mains who dont really have the money for it, sure, but the faces were just recolors.

  • PredatedPredated Member Posts: 2,456

    Cus that's not how Bubba works. Bubba kills people, and wears their face.

  • TheArbiterTheArbiter Member Posts: 895

    They literally aren't free though, you had to BUY the chapter to get them as a reward.

  • espookedespooked Member Posts: 311

    get a job and buy your own cells 🤣

  • StarLostStarLost Member Posts: 5,380

    No, it really isn't.

    These cosmetics were incredibly hard to earn and really unique to boot. Honestly, removing them is silly - but if they want to go that way, some cells would be a better compensatory package, or at least enough shards to buy a different killer.

  • SuzuKRSuzuKR Member Posts: 2,008

    The entitlement is beyond delusional.

  • StarLostStarLost Member Posts: 5,380

    I don't see the entitlement here.

    People are losing a set of really cool, really unique cosmetics because a handful of butt turkeys decided to be butt turkeys. For compensation, they are being offered a pretty measly sum of shards. This reminds me of the Caps controversy from that terrible Fallout MMO.

  • TragicSolitudeTragicSolitude Member Posts: 5,456

    I'd prefer new masks over Auric Cells. I don't like either of Bubba's masks in the shop. We're losing over half of his non-default masks. Two female makeup-wearing masks and his prestige mask, that's not great in terms of options.

    Outright losing content with no new content to replace it leaves a hole. Neither Shards nor Auric Cells make up for deleted content.

  • SuzuKRSuzuKR Member Posts: 2,008

    You didn't spend money for the masks. Why would they give you a real-life money currency back? And 1600 at that? People are out of their minds.

  • StarLostStarLost Member Posts: 5,380

    1600 is excessive...but hey, always aim high and negotiate down.

    I do think that the current compensation is miserly.

    Yes, they didn't cost money - but the killer does, and the masks are potentially a reason why someone spent that money on the killer. AFAIK, there's no precedent for BHVR doing something like this in recent memory, so yeah - if I was a Bubba main, I'd be pretty steamed.

  • Thusly_BonedThusly_Boned Member Posts: 795

    Giving auric cells for the masks is a foolish ask for reasons many have mentioned already.

    Iri shards makes the most sense, but like most of BHVR's rewards/gifts, the amount it pretty paltry. They should take the amount of shards/BP they think is fair and like triple it, no exaggeration. When you look at the cost of cosmetics, I don't think even 18K shards would be unreasonable.

    Yeah, they're just cosmetics, but it's not just the cost of a head (well, four), but the not insignificant cost in player time. Yeah, if you play enough Bubba you'd have earned them anyway, but still.

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