A good enough Nurse can predict you/track you through other means than sight. There exist sounds and a constant speed of survivors that she can use to accurately predict where you'll be pretty much every time.
I don't see the problem. If they're good enough to predict what you're going to do. Or you're being too predictable. That's a bad play on you or a good play by them. You can blame yourself or tip your cap to them that they made a nice read
What's funny to me is people say BASE nurse is broken. But really it's her add ons that even make the best killer in the game possible.
I don't think folks realize that without distance. She moves slower then a 4.6. Without recharge. The time to regain blinks is aweful..Which is managable if you run double distance.
Nurse is a killer made of glass, any small nerf can break her due to her power design as she has no fallback for if her power becomes too weak from a nerf
I don't think nurse right now requires the most skill of any killer. I would say cenobite gateway's power requires the most skill, since it requires from you to:
First: Succesfully place the gateway portal to be as close to survivor which works like a nurse's power.
And second: Succesfully aim the projectile chain which works like a rocket launcher and trust me from the big distance it's not very ez to do so.
Sure, nurse can't cancel her power, but she doesn't require two blinks to hit a survivor + she also has a brown addon that has place indicator of her power
Honestly I find the mindset of "Fixing xyz bug is a buff to x killer or x perk" is really just so dumb. I honestly want to know the thought process that leads to people thinking that fixing something that's broken is a buff.
Hold up... Nurse is slower than survivors in a straight chase, and despite the fixes coming in, she'll still have a number of bugs (problems blinking through walls/objects/etc). Her power has a recharge time. She suffers fatigue every time she uses it which almost blinds her (which is easy escape for survivors with iron will and the step-boon). She's ridiculously difficult to learn/play, and you have to sink 100's of hours in her to get to a decent point.
And you want to nerf her more?? Because the players that put the time in to master her are stopping your M1 simulator game?
I've always had a certain level of respect for Nurse and Huntress players (I believe Huntress has the actual highest skill ceiling on any killer) to the point where if I come across a really really good Nurse or Huntress who completely steam rolls our team, I just take it.
Like.... they're not easy killers to learn so if someone learns them well enough to a point where I feel like no matter what I do I can't win, they kinda deserve it? I feel that way for Huntress moreso than Nurse because Nurse's ability is game breaking but like.... I still respect a good Nurse
As the game currently is nurse is one of the few killers that have an appropriate ratio of skill:power. She's very strong but use her poorly and you'll fail miserably, use her well and you almost never lose.
I do think her design is problematic in that she basically ignores all game mechanics and causes balancing issues for other perks. Until more pressing issues with the game are fixed though it doesn't seem like she needs to be a high prio.
I didn't say anything about Dead Hard in that post. Is someone insecure? Do I spot someone who relies on Dead Hard and will do anything to defend it's honor? LOL
Dead Hard isn't "OP" per say. But it is bullshit. As are all free, unearned second chance perks, on both sides.
Yeap...Idk if people know this. But base nurse moves SLOWER then a 4.6. Holding W is very effective against a base nurse
As far as speed add ons. I don't like them for blight. I know they're amazing. But I just like base speed blight and other add ons. I was having a lot of fun with iri tag + shredded letters to get insta down in 4 rushes today.
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A good enough Nurse can predict you/track you through other means than sight. There exist sounds and a constant speed of survivors that she can use to accurately predict where you'll be pretty much every time.
I don't see the problem. If they're good enough to predict what you're going to do. Or you're being too predictable. That's a bad play on you or a good play by them. You can blame yourself or tip your cap to them that they made a nice read
Wow, it's almost like this is what mindgaming is for. They make a prediction, and you try and make them predict wrong, and they try and predict right.
Because killers like Nurse are exactly what the so called "main killers" in this forum wants.
They want killers that can 4K 75%+ of times and give a hatch once every 10 matches when they feel the survivor deserves it.
Thats the "balance" they want.
Yea. Sure. Maybe spend some time using her. So you know how to face her.
Because SWF
Because she's the Only killer that can actually compete with actually good survivors..
if she gotten a nerf alongside blight and Maybe spirit, the game would not survive honestly,
The Billy nerf still makes me question what decisions they have..
What's funny to me is people say BASE nurse is broken. But really it's her add ons that even make the best killer in the game possible.
I don't think folks realize that without distance. She moves slower then a 4.6. Without recharge. The time to regain blinks is aweful..Which is managable if you run double distance.
Base blight is better then base nurse IMO
I have yet to hear any specific examples on how to nerf her that would not render her completely unplayable in any kind of capacity of success.
Why is nurse being discussed again? Did i miss something after the spirit nerf?
I mean, there isn´t exactly much left on high mmr to play against with spirit gone.
So, just asking if you´re sure about this nerf request and what the consequences will be like.
Yeah I was thinking that she’s been nerfed to the point where any more would destroy her
Basekit is fine.
Range and cooldown add-ons are busted because they stack
Also the problem arises when people stack slowdown/stalling perks on her. But that's the same with any strong killer
Nurse is a killer made of glass, any small nerf can break her due to her power design as she has no fallback for if her power becomes too weak from a nerf
Nurse is balanced without addons - Leave her alone.
I don't think nurse right now requires the most skill of any killer. I would say cenobite gateway's power requires the most skill, since it requires from you to:
First: Succesfully place the gateway portal to be as close to survivor which works like a nurse's power.
And second: Succesfully aim the projectile chain which works like a rocket launcher and trust me from the big distance it's not very ez to do so.
Sure, nurse can't cancel her power, but she doesn't require two blinks to hit a survivor + she also has a brown addon that has place indicator of her power
She needs buff according to kill rates. #42%kills #buffnurse
Killer is already unfun to play, by nerfing one of the 3 good killers will just bring the game down.
Same with tricskter at 47% kill rate 😂
Highest skill ceiling.
Lowest kill rate.
Self explanatory.
Honestly I find the mindset of "Fixing xyz bug is a buff to x killer or x perk" is really just so dumb. I honestly want to know the thought process that leads to people thinking that fixing something that's broken is a buff.
This is the mindset that got Deathslinger irresponsibly nerfed, being applied to a different killer.
nerfing her would ######### up players that then wasted ton of hundreds and thousands of hours on her.
Hold up... Nurse is slower than survivors in a straight chase, and despite the fixes coming in, she'll still have a number of bugs (problems blinking through walls/objects/etc). Her power has a recharge time. She suffers fatigue every time she uses it which almost blinds her (which is easy escape for survivors with iron will and the step-boon). She's ridiculously difficult to learn/play, and you have to sink 100's of hours in her to get to a decent point.
And you want to nerf her more?? Because the players that put the time in to master her are stopping your M1 simulator game?
I've always had a certain level of respect for Nurse and Huntress players (I believe Huntress has the actual highest skill ceiling on any killer) to the point where if I come across a really really good Nurse or Huntress who completely steam rolls our team, I just take it.
Like.... they're not easy killers to learn so if someone learns them well enough to a point where I feel like no matter what I do I can't win, they kinda deserve it? I feel that way for Huntress moreso than Nurse because Nurse's ability is game breaking but like.... I still respect a good Nurse
As the game currently is nurse is one of the few killers that have an appropriate ratio of skill:power. She's very strong but use her poorly and you'll fail miserably, use her well and you almost never lose.
I do think her design is problematic in that she basically ignores all game mechanics and causes balancing issues for other perks. Until more pressing issues with the game are fixed though it doesn't seem like she needs to be a high prio.
Being the best killer does not an OP killer make. She's not OP, and she has valid counterplay.
Let's talk about things on the survivor side that actually are OP, and don't have valid counterplay.
Nurse is not OP but Dead Hard is. Ok dude.
I didn't say anything about Dead Hard in that post. Is someone insecure? Do I spot someone who relies on Dead Hard and will do anything to defend it's honor? LOL
Dead Hard isn't "OP" per say. But it is bullshit. As are all free, unearned second chance perks, on both sides.
base nurse is somewhat balanced...
they needa buff her base blink recharge and nerf the addons for recharge, so it'll be actual balance..
the cd is just waaay too long imho..
also base blight just feels slow to me if i don't run double speed..
...im addicted to it
Yeap...Idk if people know this. But base nurse moves SLOWER then a 4.6. Holding W is very effective against a base nurse
As far as speed add ons. I don't like them for blight. I know they're amazing. But I just like base speed blight and other add ons. I was having a lot of fun with iri tag + shredded letters to get insta down in 4 rushes today.