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why are there so many nemesis’s

literally half of my survivor games are against nemesis. this killer is so boring to play against, as long as the nemesis is decent then you just can’t loop him on most tiles. i mean i’m not complaining but the fact that so many killers love using this boring ass killer just never makes me want to play survivor.



  • ad19970ad19970 Member Posts: 4,032

    Meh I enjoy going against him, he is harder to counterplay at loops than the majority of killer but he certainly does have counterplay, although less than most killers. I wish i would go against him more often.

    No idea why you are going against him so often. I dont see him too often and didn‘t think he was so popular. Has this been only today like that or longer?

  • Steel_EyedSteel_Eyed Member Posts: 3,369

    I was actually playing him recently to collect more iridescents for after the mid patch. Looking forward to his buffs. I think I’ll be okay if some uncommon addons get nerfed.

  • lauraalauraa Member Posts: 2,308

    I did kinda replace Legion with Nemmy- I found him fun as a BP grinder. Slap on Lethal and BBQ with Marvin's Blood and go to town.

    Needless to say, I'm playing even more Nemmy atm so I can use all my Marvin's Bloods.

    After the nerf I'll be playing more Nurse.

  • Iudex_NemesisIudex_Nemesis Member Posts: 273

    I'm currently on break after burning myself out playing only nemesis. This was burn all the cakes he had saved for the artist.

    Got about ten more left to go. I guess I should use them for the bloodhunt.

  • legrosporc69legrosporc69 Applicant Posts: 250

    Read the patch note and you will know why nemesis is played right now

  • AnniehereAnniehere Member Posts: 1,115

    There are bad days when Killers are repeating themselves. I saw him a lot before but now much less.

  • BenihimeWrathBenihimeWrath Member Posts: 968

    They are probably dumping all of their marvin's bloods before they become worthless

    Even though I've never found nemesis' base mutation rate to be a problem and always used zombie speed addons for ruin value.

  • shaloshalo Member Posts: 1,011

    I'm pretty sure you're not using the term boring correctly, a Killer that you have to use different tactics to escape is the opposite of boring.

  • lauraalauraa Member Posts: 2,308

    Nemesis has other decent addons. It's just that most of his addons affect vaccines or zombies, neither of which you have any control over so they feel inconsistent.

    I personally want to pull my hair out trying to get anything done on large maps; his power is a time investment, something you sorely lack in a place like Mothers Dwelling or Ormond. His tentacle is high risk and I feel the reward doesnt quite match that risk without Marvin's.

    From my own anecdotal evidence, if I am forced to m1 survivors instead of infecting them, the match is likely lost. We really need to start eating pallets asap and keep up the chase pressure. Otherwise I think youd be better off playing other m1 killers like plague or freddy.

    Since survivors have 4 total health states plus sprint burst, we cant afford to let them get pallet value

  • zarrzarr Member Posts: 431

    Nemesis is easy and comfortable to play, and not weak, you can go for long killer sessions more or less on cruise control playing him. Still has room for skill expression, but yeah, there's just less stuff to think about and his mechanics don't make for very complicated interactions. That does come at the cost of a lower ceiling than various other killers, both in terms of the performance potential and the potential to have really exciting gameplay... But it's still pretty fun, especially if you know about the tricks he has.

    But yeah, that's the reason I suspect he sees more regular play. I enjoy playing Nemesis, but I would definitely still prefer if he had some more engaging mechanics.

  • FlimflamFlimflam Member Posts: 93

    I'd say it's a combination of resident evil being mega popular and nemi being braindead easy to play. I use nemi when I'm stoned and want easy wins.

  • emetSdidnothingwrongemetSdidnothingwrong Member Posts: 121

    He isn't the strongest but he is a lot of fun, chances are if you are facing a nemi he is looking for a fun game not a win at all costs, or maybe that's just me XD

  • PlayTwinkPlayTwink Member Posts: 454

    "Nemesis unfun to play against"

    Wanna take my mmr and play against nurses and spirits all the time?

  • BenihimeWrathBenihimeWrath Member Posts: 968

    This is why I like to take STBFL on nemesis so it makes M1s feel not as punishing to use over his tentacle. It also helps make him hyper efficient one reaching tier 2. You save so much time breaking pallets/recovering from hits that it becomes difficult to prevent your snowball. I'm not sure how much risk there is in using it though, I think the only zoning killer with a less punishing anti-loop to ready is demogorgon with shred.

    Honestly if you get used to the drag technique it makes hitting his tentacle a lot easier.

    Lowkey, I'd play against new spirit over nemesis any day

  • Nemmy_WemmyNemmy_Wemmy Member Posts: 764
    edited January 13

    No idea why so many play Nemmy. I wouldn't be caught dead playing him.

  • GhosteGhoste Member Posts: 1,516

    As others have said, I'm currently binging Nemmy to get my fill before the nerfs. Honestly I'm having a surprising amount of fun with him. Although it can be frustrating because he's by no means a strong Killer. His lack of mobility really hurts his potential.

  • TsulanTsulan Member Posts: 11,638

    Probably due to situations like this:

  • Buily09Buily09 Member Posts: 2,132

    If you look at the steam DbD Stats (playerbase), then the biggest peak in the history of DbD (105K+ players at the same time) was I think when RE chapter released.

    I think he is just super popular because he comes from famous IP + he is fun to play + zombies are cool I think.

  • PlayTwinkPlayTwink Member Posts: 454

    No, seriously you don't wanna. People in my region are usually a very good killers. Espiecially when you live next to russia.

  • BenihimeWrathBenihimeWrath Member Posts: 968

    I love playing against new spirit, it feels so rewarding to out mindgame her. Nemesis doesn't feel nearly as rewarding with gameplay similar to dodging Huntress bus hatchets.

  • BadLooperQBadLooperQ Member Posts: 277

    Cause he's not trapper and a licensed character... And because of that...

    That whip...

  • JunylarJunylar Member Posts: 1,440

    The killer is easy to win as: it has free slowdown perk out of the box, it has broken hitbox making ranged hits trivial, and it's an anti-loop killer. Nothing surprising in the fact that people like to win easily.

  • justalilbit123justalilbit123 Member Posts: 165

    Nemesis is only worth playing if you like whipping people through safe pallets and don't care that you're gonna lose the game

  • ChurchofPigChurchofPig Member Posts: 2,370

    Speak for yourself I'm on a roll with Nemesis right now

  • LawlichanLawlichan Member Posts: 92

    out of all the killers in this game... why complain about nemesis??? his zombies can be mildly annoying sure, but that's kinda it

  • Nemmy_WemmyNemmy_Wemmy Member Posts: 764

    What's thy build? I love trying out new nemmy stuff 🤔

  • ChurchofPigChurchofPig Member Posts: 2,370

    His 3 perks + BBQ

    I'm not even joking, that's what it is. I'm on an 8 match merciless streak with just that. No add-ons, just that.

  • herbaljellyfishherbaljellyfish Member Posts: 113

    what counterplay? You mean dodge a whip, gain 3 meters and eat an m1 anyway? His ability to break pallets is just too much and his recovery time after missing a whip is practically non-existent. I'd rather do away with the contamination mechanic and just have him injure on first whip with the length of tier 3 but not be able to break pallets. Other killers that can break pallets quickly like billy, leatherface and demo cannot recover nearly as quickly as nemesis when he does so. Either extend his recovery time for breaking pallets or remove the mechanic altogether. I've you play solo q, Nemi will get t3 in 2 minutes flat and there is literally no counterplay in a chase at that point. At least with like Demi, he has a long recovery time after using shred that you can extend a mid to long loop for another loop if you dodge, you can't do this with nemesis unless it's at an unsafe pallet. Admittedly, Nemi is super weak early game, but once he gets perma tier 3, he's unequivocally unstoppable. Sure you can dodge a few whips but best case scenario you extend a chase by a few seconds. Nemesis and Artist are the only killers I have a problem with because you don't need to be a good player while using them to be insanely oppressive. I'd rather go against Blight/Nurse/Spirit 50 games in a row than ever see a busted ass nemesis/artist. I mean, compare Nemi to Myers who has limited t3 and can't break pallets to Nemi who has infinite t3, can break pallets, zombies and near non-existent slowdown when missing a whip attack while having normal base speed. Same problem with artist, base speed is just too fast. People say "w away" but that only adds 2-5 seconds to the chase if the killer is competent and knows how to zone.

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