Lithe is so under used
TheGannMan
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I use Lithe more than any exhaustion perk and I really love it. I usually get a ton of value out of it almost every game. I don’t even think it’s too strong or too weak, I just think it’s a perfect example of a fair and balanced exhaustion perk.
I know why Lithe isn’t used much, it’s because Dead Hard is so much better and so much easier to use. I just wish Dead Hard can get nerfed so other under used perks like Lithe can get exposed in the survivor meta. Also, many will agree Dead Hard is objectively unfair in its current state.
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LIthe is a good perk and under used. But they're probably never going to nerf dead hard because why would they? Most exhaustion perks are just second chance perks for survivors.
Sprint Burst is the way, tho...
I like Sprint Burst. It’s arguably better than Dead Hard but at least I don’t see 3-4 Sprint Bursts every single game.
Lithe is I think the better exhaustion perk over DH but DH has iframes and that alone gives it utility that Lithe just cant match.
With Validation you can even eat killer powers now.
I do love my Lithe, though. I personally love going stealthy with Lucky Break
At least Lithe requires planning and exhaustion management. Sometimes you need to slow vault windows if using Lithe at that time isn’t the best play. Dead Hard is just press a button and you’re free.
You can argue it, but the DH iframes and hit validation can be frustrating. The DH for distance is the most frustrating thing about the perk imo.
Lithe is my favorite exhaustion perk too but map spawns and the killer your facing as it can render the perk either unusable or actively detrimental to attempt(Vaulting VS Pyramid Head for example).
While very well designed its just too niche to be general use and is a worse niche exhaustion perk then Balanced Landing.
Exhaustion perks being more niche is a good thing imo, because exhaustion perks are always going to have a strong effect.
DH is annoying when you don't even see the DH but they still make the sound as if you downed them. Same with the new pallet validations. But DH is just their best second chance perk
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I never said being niche wasn't good just that its as niche as Balanced Landing(Aka your equally as likely to get them to work) but its objectively weaker the Balanced Landing as Lithe lacks a secondary effect while Balanced Landing does have a secondary effect.
I feel like Lithe would be more viable if it had a secondary effect like: "Your rushed vaults are always fast vault while not exhausted."
So, reality is survivors aren't really going to want to use a perk that is pretty good imo for the movement speed, you can def get a killer to whiff on you from it as well; because they have a second chance perk like dead hard. Lithe is just a sprint burst whenever you want it.
I don't like lithe for the same reason I don't like dh (b4 validation) I always seem to be exhausted on the ground. Haven't bothered using DH since hit validation. Sprint burst is the way for me
Well Lithe wasn’t meant to have iframes.
It's a great perk until you run into a very laggy killer that strikes the window you were at two seconds earlier and you go down. I think that's the problem with it. Maybe they need to add validation to Lithe. That's been my experience with it as much as I like it. Fast vault, get the speed boost for about 1.5 seconds and your exhausted The killer swings at the window and you're down lol
It requires more thought then pressing E or shift.
Another reason I like it.
Agree with you @TheGannMan. I always run lithe and it’s gotten me out of so many chases. I love it and prefer it over dead hard or sprint burst
Lithe is amazing. But dead hard exists so who gives a f. Meta slaves out here.
Its because lithe is a fair perk but honestly i think its because when you jump a window you already get so much distance it feel like lithe is not needed at least for me
I wouldn't say its underused when you could just use the third health state perk, ie dead hard instead
Dead Hard is just better in every way imaginable. Thats why ppl use it.
I don't like it. I played this game plenty with no exhaustion and if dh and sb weren't a thing I would just go no exhaustion again.
I used to think that. But the more and more I have mind game hits robbed from me. The more I see the perk as a problem as a whole.
Damn I made the switch from sprint burst- dead hard- and then finally lithe. I just get a lot of value out of it but all three have their pros and cons
If you like it and get benefit from it, keep using it.
It is just one of the perks that I personally don't like running.
Sometimes I like to run Lithe + Quick and Quiet, as it can lead to some fun escapes from loops when used at the right time. Killer is still looking for you around the loop while you're already halfway across the map.
Yeah I totally get that. Decisive strike is a perk that I don’t really like running either. But yeah I used to use dead hard but when ever I pressed the button It won’t do anything. Just way to inconsistent. But that’s just me lmao.
I never seeanyone who gets good value out of it. Glad there is someone out there who does! I hope the stronger exhaustion perks get nerfed too so we see more variety
I really like Lithe with WoO.
Problem is that some maps just don't have many windows, but it's funny to dumb tech with it. Well, Killer was using Enduring last time I have tried that...