I’ve been bled out as a survivor multiple times. It goes both ways. If you can’t stand it then don’t play. And to add to that I love it when I’m last to be sacrificed on the hook and still getting hit by the killer. What do you call that?
OH NO!! MULTIPLE TIMES!!! How about Every. Single. Game. Survivors sit at the exit gate and waste two minutes, maybe a little less when they figure out I am not going to the exit gate for their ground humping dance or strobe light party. I would take a four minute bleed out every 5 to 10 matches than 2 minutes every game.
To the OP, just wander around the map kicking pallets or breakable walls. You also can spam some killers' power to get a little extra BP during this time. Or just hang in the basement and go get a drink, look at YouTube, read the forums ;p
I'll sometimes wait to take a hit to give the killer some points if they really had a rough game, but never for long.
And I never teabag at the gate, it's a pathetic display of boundary aggression. I've even been known to sandbag other survs who do it while I am there.
It was a weird ritual when I was learning the game, but now? I am very efficient at pushing them out quickly. I honestly don't even notice if they BM or not as the egc is as natural as gen defense. It is like a literal gameplay phase to push them out if you don't 4k. Lol.
I sometimes troll them by making them wait the 2 minutes. But ONLY if I have pallets/walls to break. So typically Midwich, Game, or Dead Dawg Saloon are the exceptions.
Bringing up bleed-outs is whataboutism. One form of BM doesn't excuse another. There's also the vast difference in frequency. How often do bleed-outs occur? If the killer is slugging, there's always Unbreakable. There's no perk to counter survivors intentionally wasting time, whether it be at the exit gate or on the last gen.
I'm not the one who brought it up, i'm the one telling the guy downplaying how much it sucks that he at least has options. They're both trash.
And i've experienced multiple bleedouts, personally. But even if it was 100 butt dance parties per 1 quad bleedout, it would still absolutely blow for all the poor bastards who absolutely don't have it coming, and the fact that there's absolutely nothing you can do to speed up that 4 minute timer is a disgrace. The perks that could help can either only be used once, rely on the killer bringing a perk of their own or is a polite way of throwing the game for your team.
And there is a perk to counter survivors wasting time at the exit gates.
It's called M1.
You can l i t e r a l l y justhit them out. It will work every time, without fail. You don't have to wait the entire 2 minutes, there's nothing stopping you! Yes, you have to expose yourself to the butt dance and strobe party, but you at least have the option.
Nope. That only works on the bog standard delaying tactics. When the survivors are determined, they will usually go to gates at opposite ends of the map just to make you deal with two BM parties. If you’re lucky, they’ll have fireworks to blind you in time for one survivor to get past you and search for the hatch, where they will kindly wait for you to escort them through. This has happened multiple times to me. It’s almost to the point where survivors get an undeserved “thank you” when they DON’T waste time at the exit gates.
I have literally never experience such sheer coordination from the survivors just to make sure you can't just push them out within the two minutes. If they were just waiting at different gates, you could absolutely push them out in under two minutes. If they tried to make it take longer, they'd have to put themselves in danger and you can still at least try.
But yeah-- time wasting you can't speed up sucks and is awful. Even if it's infrequent.
I agree bleeding out sucks, and the time wasted should be mitigated. Unfortunately, DS encourages killers to wait a minute before picking up survivors, during which you could hypothetically use Unbreakable.
There’s also the issue about whether it’s worse to just sit there or be forced to do something to stop someone from wasting your time. You can actually do something else irl during bleed-out. If you want the match to end as killer, you can’t do anything to get the survivors to fix all the gens. Bonus points if you’re so overmatched due to kill-based match making so that the survivors can literally run circles around you.
So, before dealing with the BM in my previous post, imagine having to stand in a corner getting nodded at, pointed at, tea-bagged, clickety-clicked, and flashlight stunned for several minutes before they graciously decided they’ve had their fun and want to BM at the gates.
"and the justification that 'the killer can end it when they want to' just simply doesn't work when some killers don't want to deal with needless toxicity."
Why doesn't it work? This sounds like an issue of ego more than anything.
I only ever do it if the killer had a really bad game, and they look like they're trying to use their power more than they should. At that point I figure they're just trying to get their daily, so I want to make sure they do before i go. Only other time I do it is if i'm trying to block for someone on their way out. Other than those? theeya~!
As stated above, it’s not about ego, it’s about being forced to do something to stop someone from wasting your time. The BM is just the pickle on the ######### sandwich.
The most ridiculous one is the waiting on hatch to tbag. It's like yes, you're on death hook, your teammates are all dead, the gens aren't finished but you find the randomly appearing hatch first so you must have totally outplayed me. Definitely.
Let's not pretend that's the reason for gate tbagging parties.
If anything, I consistently have trouble doing that challenge because my teammates won't bleeping leave. They always want to butt dance the killer and it turns into a matter of who gets hit out first.
Yeah this is boring. I am just leaving to next game. The only reason i am waiting, i wanna be sure everyone are safe. If i see everyone are safe and can leave, i am just leaving.
The downside is that not all killers CAN end it themselves (without disconnecting). If survivors are determined to make a game last indefinitely, they can stop at 4 gens and start messing with the overmatched killer. At least with EGC there’s a 2 min. time limit, during which survivors go to opposite gates, flashlight stun for the last survivor to go look for hatch, or otherwise needlessly prolong the trial.
Why do you think I made this thread in the first place lmao, I literally made an account here so when I'm being held hostage I can focus on other things like the daily dead hard threads.
Morton's Fork. You're forced to wait, or you have to go over to the "hahah, screw you" exit party? Neither one is enjoyable or necessary.
Like... this is the fundamental issue. The choice is waste your time or be taunted. The fault is on the people waiting at the exit gate when they've won, not the Killer for not indulging them.
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I’ve been bled out as a survivor multiple times. It goes both ways. If you can’t stand it then don’t play. And to add to that I love it when I’m last to be sacrificed on the hook and still getting hit by the killer. What do you call that?
I'm sorry but whoever is talking in those videos has a really annoying sounding voice.
OH NO!! MULTIPLE TIMES!!! How about Every. Single. Game. Survivors sit at the exit gate and waste two minutes, maybe a little less when they figure out I am not going to the exit gate for their ground humping dance or strobe light party. I would take a four minute bleed out every 5 to 10 matches than 2 minutes every game.
To the OP, just wander around the map kicking pallets or breakable walls. You also can spam some killers' power to get a little extra BP during this time. Or just hang in the basement and go get a drink, look at YouTube, read the forums ;p
Again get over it.
Honestly it’s sounds so first world. Every time a killer must wait 2 whole minutes to exit the game. He must fill his time with YouTube. 🥴
I'll sometimes wait to take a hit to give the killer some points if they really had a rough game, but never for long.
And I never teabag at the gate, it's a pathetic display of boundary aggression. I've even been known to sandbag other survs who do it while I am there.
I think when all survivors are at the gates the times should run out faster
some do it to give free hits for blood points, but the gain is so low thats its not worth bothering.
The tbags don't project an impenetrable force field, dude. You don't have to wait the full 2 minutes, you're fully capable of hitting them out.
You just don't want to.
You have to wait the full 4 minutes of a bleedout.
It was a weird ritual when I was learning the game, but now? I am very efficient at pushing them out quickly. I honestly don't even notice if they BM or not as the egc is as natural as gen defense. It is like a literal gameplay phase to push them out if you don't 4k. Lol.
I sometimes troll them by making them wait the 2 minutes. But ONLY if I have pallets/walls to break. So typically Midwich, Game, or Dead Dawg Saloon are the exceptions.
Bringing up bleed-outs is whataboutism. One form of BM doesn't excuse another. There's also the vast difference in frequency. How often do bleed-outs occur? If the killer is slugging, there's always Unbreakable. There's no perk to counter survivors intentionally wasting time, whether it be at the exit gate or on the last gen.
I'm not the one who brought it up, i'm the one telling the guy downplaying how much it sucks that he at least has options. They're both trash.
And i've experienced multiple bleedouts, personally. But even if it was 100 butt dance parties per 1 quad bleedout, it would still absolutely blow for all the poor bastards who absolutely don't have it coming, and the fact that there's absolutely nothing you can do to speed up that 4 minute timer is a disgrace. The perks that could help can either only be used once, rely on the killer bringing a perk of their own or is a polite way of throwing the game for your team.
And there is a perk to counter survivors wasting time at the exit gates.
It's called M1.
You can l i t e r a l l y just hit them out. It will work every time, without fail. You don't have to wait the entire 2 minutes, there's nothing stopping you! Yes, you have to expose yourself to the butt dance and strobe party, but you at least have the option.
Nope. That only works on the bog standard delaying tactics. When the survivors are determined, they will usually go to gates at opposite ends of the map just to make you deal with two BM parties. If you’re lucky, they’ll have fireworks to blind you in time for one survivor to get past you and search for the hatch, where they will kindly wait for you to escort them through. This has happened multiple times to me. It’s almost to the point where survivors get an undeserved “thank you” when they DON’T waste time at the exit gates.
I will often do it to drop my item as a show of respect but admittedly Im not going to wait the whole 2 minutes
I have literally never experience such sheer coordination from the survivors just to make sure you can't just push them out within the two minutes. If they were just waiting at different gates, you could absolutely push them out in under two minutes. If they tried to make it take longer, they'd have to put themselves in danger and you can still at least try.
But yeah-- time wasting you can't speed up sucks and is awful. Even if it's infrequent.
Like being bled out.
That's what I was saying.
I agree bleeding out sucks, and the time wasted should be mitigated. Unfortunately, DS encourages killers to wait a minute before picking up survivors, during which you could hypothetically use Unbreakable.
There’s also the issue about whether it’s worse to just sit there or be forced to do something to stop someone from wasting your time. You can actually do something else irl during bleed-out. If you want the match to end as killer, you can’t do anything to get the survivors to fix all the gens. Bonus points if you’re so overmatched due to kill-based match making so that the survivors can literally run circles around you.
So, before dealing with the BM in my previous post, imagine having to stand in a corner getting nodded at, pointed at, tea-bagged, clickety-clicked, and flashlight stunned for several minutes before they graciously decided they’ve had their fun and want to BM at the gates.
"and the justification that 'the killer can end it when they want to' just simply doesn't work when some killers don't want to deal with needless toxicity."
Why doesn't it work? This sounds like an issue of ego more than anything.
If the gens were finished 15 seconds ago and the person i hook is dead. I literally just tab out.
I only ever do it if the killer had a really bad game, and they look like they're trying to use their power more than they should. At that point I figure they're just trying to get their daily, so I want to make sure they do before i go. Only other time I do it is if i'm trying to block for someone on their way out. Other than those? theeya~!
As stated above, it’s not about ego, it’s about being forced to do something to stop someone from wasting your time. The BM is just the pickle on the ######### sandwich.
I don't buy it. What is the downside to ending it yourself?
The most ridiculous one is the waiting on hatch to tbag. It's like yes, you're on death hook, your teammates are all dead, the gens aren't finished but you find the randomly appearing hatch first so you must have totally outplayed me. Definitely.
There is tome challange for this. Your teammates needs to leave before you.
Let's not pretend that's the reason for gate tbagging parties.
If anything, I consistently have trouble doing that challenge because my teammates won't bleeping leave. They always want to butt dance the killer and it turns into a matter of who gets hit out first.
Yeah this is boring. I am just leaving to next game. The only reason i am waiting, i wanna be sure everyone are safe. If i see everyone are safe and can leave, i am just leaving.
The downside is that not all killers CAN end it themselves (without disconnecting). If survivors are determined to make a game last indefinitely, they can stop at 4 gens and start messing with the overmatched killer. At least with EGC there’s a 2 min. time limit, during which survivors go to opposite gates, flashlight stun for the last survivor to go look for hatch, or otherwise needlessly prolong the trial.
I asked you for the downside of pushing out Survivors waiting at the gate.
'First world'???? NOOOOO! WE CAN'T HAVE THAT! Thank you for raising awareness of people with petty problems and complaints!
Lucky this is just general discussion at least.
Imagine all the egg on their face if they'd put this thread up in the war orphan or sex traffing solution subforums!
Why do you think I made this thread in the first place lmao, I literally made an account here so when I'm being held hostage I can focus on other things like the daily dead hard threads.
Morton's Fork. You're forced to wait, or you have to go over to the "hahah, screw you" exit party? Neither one is enjoyable or necessary.
Like... this is the fundamental issue. The choice is waste your time or be taunted. The fault is on the people waiting at the exit gate when they've won, not the Killer for not indulging them.