Home Dead by Daylight Forums Discussions General Discussions

I'm I supposed to keep getting Rank 1's in every match ?

BadZillaBadZilla Member Posts: 461

I barely have 48 hours in game Silver 3 killer hardly but every match I keep getting paired with Rank 1's and red ranks like 2 and 3 red ranks all the time they rush gens quickly and loop me forever , why a 48 hours new player supposed to play against players with 2000 hours+ that can do everything perfectly it's not fair

«1

Comments

  • Mr_KMr_K Member Posts: 7,834

    Grade only reflects time played not level of skill.

  • AlkaloidssOPAlkaloidssOP Member Posts: 234

    The matchmaking of this game is terrible. So you'll propably need to lose some matches to get worse players again.

  • GuyFawxGuyFawx Member Posts: 1,946

    It is the new normal the old rank system was definately better but it also had its problems they really need to somewhat mix this system and the old system so players like you dont get these unfair match ups. It basically just means your doing well as a killer but honestly your better off for it as your skill will increase faster since the challenge is harder. Take it as a sign of respect your doing too well as a killer lol that bronze was probably what was throwing off the match up

  • BadZillaBadZilla Member Posts: 461

    Just finished another match with 2 red ranks it's insane they're good at rescuing others and looping I can't do nothing , it was fair a bit when I was bronze I get equal skill players but now I keep getting SWF and sweaty rank 1s that will tbag every second they can I just can't beat someone that played the game 2000 hours when I still have no idea about 60% of it's tricks lol everyone is escaping I just start a game 2 gens instantly pop up as I get in a chase with a rank 1 get a hit then try to patrol another gen since I can catch him , 2 more gens are done then they all gather to troll me before they open the door and escape they don't miss any skill checks too and use sweaty perks

  • fulltononfulltonon Member Posts: 4,397

    Grade reflects time, time reflects skill in 99% of situation.

  • egg_egg_ Member Posts: 1,099
    edited February 1

    Since no one apparently has time to explain what's going on, what they mean with "grade reflects the amount of time played" is that matchmaking supposedly works with a hidden skill value that players cannot see, that changes based on your performance while playing (kills/escapes as far as we know).

    The ranking system you see was used in the old matchmaking. Now it is only used for season rewards, which are blood points. The higher your grade on the 13th of every month, the higher your reward. Then it resets back to ash 4, so it does in a certain way show your skill (the faster you get to rank 1) but it is so easy to pip up while playing certain killers or with a certain survivor gameplay that it does also reflect simply how much you played the game.

    Also, your hidden value for the matchmaking is supposedly unique for each killer (the more you play a killer and the better you perform with them, the better survivors you will find), while the rank is shared

    HOWEVER the matchmaking extremely sucks and if one of the two parties has been in queue for enough time it will just place them against any opponent available regardless of skill (hey, you're getting stomped or you're against babies, but you're playing right? 🙂)

  • lonesomekilllonesomekill Applicant Posts: 246

    No its not fair. A messed up system. It gets worse. I never get more than 1 kill and somehow im levelled in the 80s. 4 out of 5 games i get 0 kills. You will get equal players sometimes. Just gotta keep your chin up. At least your wait time for a game should be faster as killer. Good luck

  • fulltononfulltonon Member Posts: 4,397

    Tbh SBMM simply doesn't work for killers because how it works, it's only for good survivors to stack with good survivors, not to have good opponent.

  • ShinobuSKShinobuSK Member Posts: 4,634

    If you just start playing then yes.

    Apparently matchmaking makes new players verse players with hundreds of hours so they learn what kind of matchmaking this game has in the fastest way possible

  • WesuWesu Member Posts: 50

    And all the way down here in the thread is the first time the correct answer has been given. There is a severe imbalance of killer players to survivor players, with a shortage of killers. The matchmaking system works, but it takes into consideration both skill level AND how long a group of survivors has been waiting for an appropriate match. This manifests in 5 to 10 minute queues for high-ranked survivors, and fledgling killers such as yourself being matched with players way above your skill level who have been waiting for a long time.

  • CarrowCarrow Member Posts: 500

    New players start with a rating of 900. The soft cap is 1900. The matchmaking is willing to work with a 400 gap. So if you just gotten to 1501 rating, you can verse the absolute best that have played the game for 10k+ hours. Flawless system, all praise Patrick for his genius insight!

  • Thusly_BonedThusly_Boned Member Posts: 1,729

    Earlier tonight I got matched up against a team players that had to have been completely new to the game, and I have 1500+ hours in. I play on console so I couldn't see their hours, but none of them seem to have any idea what PH's power was, and spent the whole match grouped up trying to immerse, playing terrified. I could easily have ended the game in 5 minutes or less.

    I went super easy on them, letting them play a bit, and let one go, but that's not the experience brand new players should be having. Or me, for that matter. No fun for anyone. And matches like these are not uncommon.

    And as for grade, at this point I am not sure it's not a better indicator of skill than MMR. Time in game is positively correlated to skill, and since SBMM seems to be throwing crap at the wall, grade may actually mean more, which is not great.

  • c0gnu5c0gnu5 Member Posts: 62

    To be fair, rank means nothing, I suggest you ignore it all together. I have around 160 hours, maybe 1/3 of it as a killer, yesterday I finally got to silver and survivors in iri are not that rare for me.

    Maybe you just shouldn't expect to win as a Ghostface against fully stacked survivors with boons and strong items

  • KajdanKiKajdanKi Member Posts: 218

    you can pip up losing matches a survivor thus getting grades.


    You only need to do gens, totems and with bit of luck from the rest of the team you can actually survive

  • RaSavage42RaSavage42 Member Posts: 3,894

    It's the fact that the Emblem system isn't tied to MMR

    Which is why you get BP on the 13th

  • CleviteClevite Member Posts: 4,335

    Lose Noed, it may be inflating your MMR with kills at end game.

  • fulltononfulltonon Member Posts: 4,397

    "Maybe you just shouldn't expect to win as a Ghostface"

    I think this is the correct answer, too.

  • Mr_KMr_K Member Posts: 7,834
  • SimfelizSimfeliz Member Posts: 2,538

    At lower level, yes, but that stops the higher you go. I've had plenty of games where I've done gens, totems and escaped and not piped. You really need to be escaping chases and helping others, such as safe hook rescues to pip. Sure, if you are Iri it doesn't mean you are a god at the game (I'm far from that) but you do need some competence and not just hiding all match and doing a gen or two.

  • KajdanKiKajdanKi Member Posts: 218

    I wouldnt generally look at the grades.

    Many people do iri grade and then they lower their mmr just to have fun with newbies to destroy them. Since grade is never lost and we dont have actual ranking, why not, right?

    So the most important is how one is taking this game. Seriously? Casually? Sweaty? or simply trolling?

  • dugmandugman Member Posts: 9,286

    Well, actually it’s mostly play time since once you go up a grade you lock that Grade in and can’t lose pips below that. So no matter how good or bad you are, if you play enough you’ll eventually have two or three two pip games in a row and level up just from that alone. The criteria for getting a pip does get slightly harder the higher your grade is but not to the extent that it prevents you from leveling up after a few solid matches in a row.

  • dugmandugman Member Posts: 9,286

    There are a couple of reasons mismatches happen which make them unavoidable even assuming your MMR is accurate.

    • When someone dodges a lobby the game looks for the next available player to fill the gap because it doesn’t want four people in a lobby waiting for a fifth. So every time a lobby dodge happens it has a much higher chance of being a mismatch. (Therefore, if you honestly want to have a positive impact on the game as a whole, don’t lobby dodge, you’re just setting up the next player for a possible mismatch.)
    • Survivors play in swfs in about half of all matches, and odds are good of having a high rated player playing with low rated friends or family. Matchmaking won’t be as reliable in that case since the system is probably just doing an average of the ratings to set a goal for where the killer should be.
    • Players with outlier high ratings may not have close matches in the lobby pool at a given moment, and if they wait too long then the game just puts them in the next available match so they can at least play the game. So if you have a high rated swf squad they’re more likely to get a mismatch against an average or newer player after a long wait in queue if there just doesn’t happen to be a similarly highly rated killer waiting for a match.

    Also good job on getting Silver 3 as a new player, at this rate you could be red grade and get a big bloodpoint bonus in a couple of weeks when the reset happens. 🙂

  • BadZillaBadZilla Member Posts: 461

    I just started recently using it since high ranked players are toxic they ignore totems and gen rush so it's the only way to get a sacrifice against red ranks

  • BadZillaBadZilla Member Posts: 461

    Sadly my queue times are insane like 5 mins to 10 mins usually to get a killer match

  • BadZillaBadZilla Member Posts: 461

    Well as a wraith main it's not that different , my skill with GF is pretty decent I always get 4k kills and 3 kills with silver and bronze players and gold too but anything higher I just can't do anything

  • BadZillaBadZilla Member Posts: 461

    His play style is fun and other killers I have are quiet boring I enjoy mostly GF

Sign In or Register to comment.