That's how it was on it's release. It was incredibly OP.
That's because second chances mean nothing if he can just saw through your BT and still going for another down.
Looks at my 30+ 3-4k streak with bubba
Er... Agree to Disagree
I love playing with Bubba as a Survivor those are some fun chases.....until the Bubba decides to be a basement camper Bubba
He is one f the killers i hate the most to go against, as much as i would love to have him nerfed it would probably kill the character.
He's loved and hated... but he's not bad
He's got something that other Killers don't (insta-down)
He's actually a solid killer when played aggressively in chase. It seems like the vast majority of Bubbas want to facecamp though.
That wouldn't, because he can just sweep back again, I've had multiple situations where they got me off with BT and he still got us both with how fast he can swing his saw
His camping is broken but otherwise I like going against him.
That already used to be a thing and was busted. It meant injured survivors could unhook without fear, reinforcing the no heal meta (which to be fair, I think has become less viable overtime)
Don't be mean to bubba hes a good boi
Exactly, he discourages bad play and punishes disrespect of his presence. If a survivor tries to save in his face they are rewarded with the proper outcome for a bad decision.
So trying to unhook a survivor, which is getting camped is considered as "disrespect of his presence" ?
I can understand the Survivor having a little sense of justice and going for the unhook even though it will probably kill the whole team but whatever xD
Most of the time he will standing around for 3 minutes until the gens are done and the other 3 survivors are gone so whatever. Fortunately, no one has tried to save someone against a camping bubba in my matches for a long time, besides trading a hook when a survivor is going to get killed every moment to buy some time. In certain skill brackets (or how you want to call it) Survivors won't fall for an insidious camping bubba.
I personally think that camping with bubba is a disgusting and bad behavior and hopefully will be prevented in future patches. In fact i also did that when i was starting with dbd but ofc i didn't improve at all, so i started playing nurse and sometimes blight and ofc Survivor and i'm a pretty happy Player so far.
If it's Bubba and they cockily go for a save like he doesn't matter; yeah that's disrespectful to his presence.
I haven't seen a Bubba camp unwarranted in a long time now, but regardless of why the killer is near the hook it's just a bad idea to attempt a save without a situational advantage. Sucks for the person that screwed up and got caught, but the team needs to avoid turning a solo situation into a snowball.
I don't see camping as particularly rewarding without the survivors making it effective, but without positive incentives to replace camping the removal itself won't have a positive impact. It may help some segments of the community while also damaging others.
"I don't see camping as particularly rewarding without the survivors making it effective"
Unhooking is typically something that comes with the role as a Survivor and should not be a tool of the killer.
I dont see why preventing face camping, where a player will get a minus pip without being responsible for the killers behavior would damage the game. Sometimes i see good Bubba players, which won't camp at all - not even proxy camping, which still get 3 or 4ks but in a honorable way. In fact most of the bubba players on Twitch wont camp someone, except for some very annoying and intrusive players, which kinda deserve it to be camped i guess.
I completely disagree. I think 90.00% players don't understand Bubba's power and they bumping into objects, they don't know when they should Chainsaw, how many distance Bubba can get with Chainsaw and that's why these players just lose the game and decide to camp. Bubba isn't easy to play, especially vs high MMR.
Not Bubba but most Bubba players
His skill ceiling is really underrated just because his skill floor is quite low.
Camping can both feel negative and prove vital given the situation it's applied. There are various times when there is no advantage to walking away and others where the advantage is lost by staying.
Depending on the level of play, the most frequent points of interaction vary during the match. Most notably good survivors find that towards endgame as a single solid runner leaves little else for the other 3 to do besides gens.
My concerns aren't for protecting camping but the ability to apply pressure around the hook. I find free saves diminishes both roles and removes all forms of accomplishment in what would've been difficult situations.
As for the the depip, I completely put the survivor in question at fault. It is the survivor's incentive to avoid the killer long enough for at least a safety to be acquired. Getting caught before any progress is made rests with the individual's ability and not the killer securing the kill.
And yet when I play Bubba I see this scenario in at least 3 out of ten matches: I chase a survivor. I see somebody running past me for the unhook. So I turn on my heel and chase the "rescuer". Said survivor ignores me, runs to the hook, I rev my chainsaw. The "rescuer" unhooks (sometimes without BT), I chainsaw into him an the unhooked survivor, I chain another token and down the unhooked survivor too. After the game the survivors cry about how OP Bubba is and how unfair I play by camping and tunneling them.
It is as if many survivors just lose some of their skill when they face a Cannibal. They see him, they hear my chainsaw and just drop their skill into the dumpster and play like 30-hour newbies. Not running loops correct, predropping everything and then wondering where the pallets went, not abusing windows (I do not even use Bamboozle!) or greedy the generator while being stacked as 2 or more people...
Indeed. Bubba is fun to play and running against a good Bubba is always a scenario that I like. As I play him myself I know what he can do and what he can not do and I when I go down it is mostly because I made a mistake or because the Bubba did a pretty good job. Never felt unfair.
Omg we could make it once a game too
Look i realize my idea was dumb as it used to be the old way and i was a little drunk at the time of posting it
I thought you would have by now but I couldn't help myself 🧍
He’s a pretty strong killer, far from the best but much further from the worst.
Being face camped right off the bat is shite however it’ll be hard to change that without nerfing him in general as there are many “legitimate” reasons for a killer to defend a hook.
I remember a stream where Otz showed the playstyles of smaller streamers. One was a Bubba main, who showed some awesome moves with him. So yeah, i agree.
Thats more an issue with your teammates than the killer.
My in both my last 2 matches, someone disconnected at 5 gens.
He's...mediocre. Not as bad as Pig, Legion or Trapper, but not good. His kit feels designed for camping and Bamboozle is basically mandatory on him.
And you mean only on bubba's right? but it could work in general with all killer's if a killer camps for more than 40 secs then the rescuer could recieve by as well if there in the injured state.