MoM being properly balanced doesn't mean its dead. Boil Over got a slap on the wrist, Balanced Landing is perfectly, Object of Obsession should have never shipped as a hard counter to several killers entirely reason for existing, and Circle of Healing is still quite good.
Noed is one of the most altered and easiest to counter perks in the game and only happens at endgame. If y'all can't do bones at this point, that's on you. You've got all the tools in the world to help you find totems unlike killers who legit have basically no reliable way to find totems besides memorizing spawn spots.
Didn’t see anyone reply to you. No, it was originally any three basic attacks to trigger. Alternatively, they could count protection hits as hits to protect healthy survivors. For some reason it’s only considered protection for injured or carried survivors - which doesn’t make sense.
MoM was busted. BL is fine, I still run it. OoO was busted in SWF. Boil over is in far better shape now than it was 6 months ago. CoH was hella OP, and never should have been to begin with.
I don't think they work on a perk it sounded like they are searching for a Mechanik and they already testet different Mechanik but didn't found a good one yet
... you do know that NOED received some pretty major changes to it as well, right?
it went from an always activating 2 minute long oneshot for the Killer to an entirely preventable Hex Perk that could be cleansed at any point in time (even prior to its activation in end game) with a less significant speed boost for the Killer than the previous versions had.
so even in that sense your, by the way very flawed, logic of "if one side gets a nerf the other side needs to get one too!" doesnt work, because NOED, just like all the Perks you listed, received a pretty major rebalancing in the past.
I genuinely have so little to say other than... stop with the us VS them bullcrap.
Hey, how about we start trying to have the mindset of "this needs to be changed because it's poor game design" instead of "oh, we got something nerfed, nerf something for their side"?
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As a Balanced Landing gamer I disagree. It still turns areas like hills or Coldwind Harvesters into viable areas.
They do work on that tho
Noed was gutted lmfao.
MoM being properly balanced doesn't mean its dead. Boil Over got a slap on the wrist, Balanced Landing is perfectly, Object of Obsession should have never shipped as a hard counter to several killers entirely reason for existing, and Circle of Healing is still quite good.
Noed is one of the most altered and easiest to counter perks in the game and only happens at endgame. If y'all can't do bones at this point, that's on you. You've got all the tools in the world to help you find totems unlike killers who legit have basically no reliable way to find totems besides memorizing spawn spots.
No they don't
Perks don't count
Didn’t see anyone reply to you. No, it was originally any three basic attacks to trigger. Alternatively, they could count protection hits as hits to protect healthy survivors. For some reason it’s only considered protection for injured or carried survivors - which doesn’t make sense.
I think there was a PTB that added safe unhooks to MoM, I think. It just never made it to live. I’ll look more into it
MoM was busted. BL is fine, I still run it. OoO was busted in SWF. Boil over is in far better shape now than it was 6 months ago. CoH was hella OP, and never should have been to begin with.
The drama here is palpable.
And delete NOED for all I care, take DH with it.
Boil Over is used in 2.63% of the time by survivors, it's pretty much dead. Not sure what it was before the nerf.
That is actually well above average for % useage once you consider its competing against 103 other perks for a slot in you're build.
The average % if all(104) perks are used equally would be under 1% usage.
The lowest of the "META" perks is Kindred with above 10%.
With survivor perks you are either used or not used. There's not really an inbetween like Killer perks.
COH killed?
I don't think they work on a perk it sounded like they are searching for a Mechanik and they already testet different Mechanik but didn't found a good one yet
Mom was terrible for the game.
NOED? Time for Cheryl's soul guard.
These perks did get nerfed hardcore, but they definitely deserved it to a certain extent.
However these perks have 0 counterplay, while NOED still had clearly defined counter and thanks to boons, not only one.
What's ooo
Object of Obsession.
... you do know that NOED received some pretty major changes to it as well, right?
it went from an always activating 2 minute long oneshot for the Killer to an entirely preventable Hex Perk that could be cleansed at any point in time (even prior to its activation in end game) with a less significant speed boost for the Killer than the previous versions had.
so even in that sense your, by the way very flawed, logic of "if one side gets a nerf the other side needs to get one too!" doesnt work, because NOED, just like all the Perks you listed, received a pretty major rebalancing in the past.
Thank you, OP, as always, for your well thought out opinions presented in a completely unbiased way.
The forums could surely use more heroes such as yourself.
don't mind the speed gone, but anything else
Sigh... posts like these make me really sad.
I genuinely have so little to say other than... stop with the us VS them bullcrap.
Hey, how about we start trying to have the mindset of "this needs to be changed because it's poor game design" instead of "oh, we got something nerfed, nerf something for their side"?
Please?
Bruh imagine unironically saying shadowstep is trash lmao
That requires, at the very least, a basic understanding of the game and its balance...if you catch my drift.