Oh lord 😂
I know what you mean. But it marginalized effeminate guys.
What makes you think BHVR is stopping here with adding characters from the LGBT+ community?
Just give them time and who knows, maybe the next character is going to effiminate.
I hope they will !
To actually get worked up about something like this. How do you cope when your not in front of a screen?
You're all like "Ugh they Jk Rowling'd it" NO TF THEY DID NOT
Dumbledoor was made gay to please the terrible people she surrounded herself with and it was given absolutely NO canon confirmation until Fantastic Beasts 2. David was confirmed to help represent a portion of the gay community and, here's the important bit, has canon evidence to support his being gay. I've read the lore, it's really well done and explains why it's not a retcon.
They could literally only represent one type of person. You don't want a masculine gay but also not an effeminate gay because that'd be a stereotype so, what? You want the void? Give them time to help show more than a singular character because now they've taken the big step everything else can be integrated so much easier.
As a gay man, if they where going to Retcon, making him bisexual would make more sense.
Especially since bisexuals get the worst representation
Caring or listening to any community on Twitter of all places is the worst thing any person or company could do to regardless
I don't get what the issue is? It's not like we know everything about every single character. Why does it have to be someone new?
Agreed, im hoping they made the backstory actually represent it rather than it just being a 2d label being slapped on, if they don't actually address it in the tome thats coming out tomorrow and its just a really just a label slapped on then I think thats just poor representation
As a gay man yourself, you should be familiar with the term "coming out". Hiding the fact that your gay has been much more common than being out for far too long. That's why things like David being gay and people noting the Jeopardy Queen is a lesbian are important.
It's just the fact that they did it all of a sudden. They literally said "hey we don't have a gay man so here's one cuz why not". Everyone knows that's not how your supposed to do it. Take soilder 76 for example.
And why is this so important? its a computer game (fiction).
This was announced almost a year ago? What do you mean “all of a sudden”?
I am gay and I am on Twitter and I am not mad. You don't represent me.
Like David I also have ex-girlfriends and I have always been gay. It took time but I finally live proudly and openly as a gay man, and I love that David is finally out as gay as I could not be happier to be so represented. So please keep in mind that not everyone's story is the same and BHVR can always release new characters that are also LGBTQIA2+.
Representation is important to help normalise lgbt+ people and change social stigmas through media consumption. It actually happens.
They address it in his tome.
its 2022 and we have still to talk about this -.-
Precisely, except without the emoticon.
They are dedicating an entire Tome to him (his 2nd one) to expand on his story. I would imagine that it addresses his sexuality to some extent from David's point of view.
I care more about his story more than whether it was already an established character or not.
Considering the absolute outrage at someone possibly being gay, yes we're going to talk about it
I think either way it would have had some turbulence; a new character would feel just as forced, I think? Because regardless as to whether or not they had a personality, it'd be overshadowed by "they're gay", and it wouldn't feel any more natural. I worry that it might become a matter of "Selling sexuality", where the new character is unintentionally marketed to be The Gay One (tm), even if they had a cool personality. People would ignore that in favor of choosing their side on whether or not BHVR maliciously hid their representation behind a paywall.
But I do understand the frustrations about a well-known character being gay, even if I'm in favor of it. It's definitely a shock, and hard to adjust to if you've already grown accustomed to the character. You definitely have a right to be upset, since you're the very demographic they're trying to represent. I wonder what would have been done different in this circumstance; it feels like a lose-lose scenario. :( Maybe introduce the new character and ease into it with an accompanying tome, sort of like they're doing with David, but with a cleaner slate?
"Considering the absolute outrage..."
and this is the problem i have with, i can not understand why
Honestly I would have no problem with David being gay, its the fact that they had to make a post about. They had to go out of the way for it. They just had to say look here's your gay character. If they would have just left the tome and not make a post it Honestly would have been better and not seem forced
Me neither and yet here we are so until this outrage dies down it's gay gay homosexual gay for 3/4 of my comments
Now that you mention it, I think if they left it in the tome it would have been a pretty interesting idea. The post definitely sensationalizes it a bit, kind of like a massive signal to everyone that HEY! HE'S GAY! Even if that wasn't their intent.
Maybe they'll do that moving forward? :0 I can't imagine making a huge post every time a new queer character is released where they grab a megaphone and spread the word, haha. It'd get old and offensive pretty fast.
Ikr, imagine them saying hey here's a heterosexual male.. it just dosnt seem right to announce those kinds of things
I want more effeminate gays in video games because there are only muscle men like David and Soldat, im tired.
It just shows how straight world saw us : gay masculine ok, feminine gay gross 🤮
Your thread was closed because other LGBT people countered your points perfectly and your response was to mald at them and proclaim that only you were capable of understanding True Queer Culture
It wasn't very productive
Don't just get someone who we've know for years and be like " oh btw he gay" just for representation.
Isn't this the definition of "Coming out"?
Make someone new who is gay but also has a personality.
So you're saying that David King now doesn't have a personality of his own? Or are you complaining that his personality is not completely based on his sexual preferences? Because creating a new character and having their backstory completely based on the fact that they are part of the LGBT+ community would feel more like an "empty" token character just for the sake of having representation IMO