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Let's Define Tunneling

Basically, I find a lot of people tunneling, and while I think it is a dumb way to play, I do think that if you're going to, you need to know which one you're doing, including accidental, so here are my definitions.

Order Tunneling: The one I hear everyone claim to be what "tunneling" actually is. This one is when you hook the same person twice or three times in a row. This can technically be accidental since sometimes you just can't find anyone else and this person keeps showing up. I believe this is what Killers think when Survivors claim it.

Timed Tunneling: The one most often defended as "not tunneling" is Timed. This has nothing to do with hook order and has everything to do with how long until a player is downed and hooked again. This one can be accidental if Survivors look identical, but I still find it to be the MOST annoying. It is tunneling if you don't give someone time to breathe in between hooks. To not be doing this kind, a minimum of 30 seconds helps make it feel less like you're tunneling. I believe this is what Survivors are referring to when they usually claim it.

Forced Tunneling: This one Survivors cannot get mad at. Don't go looking for the Killer because you will end up getting tunneled if you keep poking them. I do not defend you if you try to get the Killer's attention. It's on you, and most Killers won't do it for the soul purpose of, "I almost have the strong one down, why should I whack the weak link?"

Accidental Tunneling: The last one is when you are doing any of the above, but you don't realise it. Typically it comes up when you have Survivors that look the same and when you can't find anyone else because they're all stealthing around the map instead of protecting the people they unhook.

There. Those are the definitions I could come up with. If you have any more, or wish to try and defend any on this short list (excluding Timed, because I know you don't think so if you're a Killer) feel free to.

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  • PerfectlyPinkPerfectlyPink Member Posts: 435

    It seems like a weird thing to get worked up about. It's so much easier to just not care; why frustrate yourself by getting upset about tunneling?

  • ZeidoktorZeidoktor Member Posts: 1,275
    edited May 19

    I've never really categorized it, but for me tunneling is making an active effort to chase and hook a single, specific Survivor, often at the exclusion of others, ever if they deliberately try to draw aggro from their teammate, must often occurring against a Survivor who has just been unhooked.

    It's the thing I most hate running into as Survivor so I make an effort to avoid it as Killer. I've done it accidentally, like mistaking a Meg that was on death hook for my last BBQ stack, and I'm not above slugging off hook if someone is dumb enough to unhook in front of me, but I'll leave them after the hit, then target the unhooker and not interfere with a pickup (Either I force BT, force Unbreakable, or force someone to come for the pickup, barring Exponential or Soul Guard it's a win win for the most part)

  • KaitsjaKaitsja Member Posts: 872

    Please, don't exaggerate like that. Nobody actually expects that of the killer.

    The problem with being tunneled out of the game, especially early, is that it's just not fun. It's not worth queuing up and it's not worth waiting. It happening once is easy to brush off. It happening upwards of 10 games in a row? Not so easy to brush off.

    Play how you want and all that, just don't expect survivors to be jumping for joy at the prospect of being tunneled out of the game so the killer can have an easy 3v1.

  • ReikoMoriReikoMori Member Posts: 2,232

    Nobody is sitting there counting seconds between hooks on either side. Tunneling is tunneling full stop no matter circumstance in which it happens or is perceived to have happened. Like we don't need to make up extra definitions.

  • TotemSeeker91TotemSeeker91 Member Posts: 1,379

    You do you, I personally think these definitions capture tunneling quite well

  • Marc_123Marc_123 Member Posts: 2,370

    Tunneling = getting hit again after i was already hooked once

  • RaccoonRaccoon Member Posts: 6,555

    *spawns on map*

  • drsoontmdrsoontm Member Posts: 2,388

    You can define it as much as you want, it will not prevent players from killing efficiently to counter ... everything that's being stacked against them (gen speed, heal speed, ...).

  • JaviiMiiJaviiMii Member Posts: 278
    edited May 19

    geez, calm down people. The thing is "tunneling" in this game, much like "camping", is a term about as clear cut as "freedom" is in the real world. Everyone thinks they know exactly what it is or isn't and is convinced that just the idea to come up with and state a definition/definitions is plain stupid. It isn't. It really, really isn't. Because if everyone throws around these terms and everyone else just hears what they want to hear it's inevitable that people completely miss each other's points. Does knowing which kind of tunneling someone is discussing fix anything? No. Of course not. - But it sure is necessary to discuss what actually needs fixing in the first place.

    With that out of the way, I do think only a "hell bent on tunneling someone out of the game asap" (aka order tunneling, I guess) actually counts as a strategy that should probably not be allowed, and certainly not be rewarded, by the game. All other forms of tunneling aren't actually harmful to the game, I think. The killer has no obligation to ignore anyone or avoid anyone - they may choose to do so but no one can expect them to squint just really hard and pretend to not see someone.

  • ViskodViskod Member Posts: 828

    From the reaction in post game chat that I get I was under the assumption that Tunneling was just when a survivor got hooked more than once throughout the course of the match.

    For me its when the killer picks a best buddy survivor and chases that survivor until they catch them no matter how long that takes, hooks them, and then when they get unhooked goes immediately after that survivor to the detriment of generator progress, boons, other survivors being more open, anything. They hook that person again, and then when they are off of the hook a second time they continue after this one survivor without ceasing until they are dead.

    I find a lot of survivors make accusations of tunneling and have assumptions of intentional malice, when just pure coincidence is the simplest answer.

    I hook a Meg, the Meg gets unhooked while I'm off somewhere else, I then happen to just bump into this same Meg by pure happenstance, so I attack her and down her even though no one else has been hooked in the meantime.

    That is not tunneling. I'm not obligated to give everyone a Phase 1 Hook before we start on who goes first on Phase 2 Hooks.

  • ThiccBudhhaThiccBudhha Member Posts: 6,441

    A definition does not matter, survivors will claim they were tunneled regardless and killers will claim they didn't tunnel. Really strange mental dissonance as apparently no one wants to take personal responsibility for their actions. Who could have guessed?

  • RDQ_TheRedFoxRDQ_TheRedFox Member Posts: 45
    edited May 19

    Oh 100% if Endgame is up you have nothing else to defend. Go for Tunneling and Camping because you no longer have a reason not to.

  • EvilJoshyEvilJoshy Member Posts: 5,296

    If the killer hits you, it's tunneling :P

  • RDQ_TheRedFoxRDQ_TheRedFox Member Posts: 45

    The sarcasm oozing from your mouth is impressive, sir. Teach me your ways.

  • SylhiriSylhiri Member Posts: 73

    This is pretty much how I would describe tunneling. Literally having tunnel vision on one survivor.

  • ChikyChiky Member Posts: 162

    people who complain about tunneling believe the killer should just sit there and wait apparently... Isn't the most obvious/effective strategy for a killer to try to hook a survivor who has been already hooked and is closer to be sacrificed?

  • LazyClownLazyClown Member Posts: 32

    Certain killers have certain playstyles, meaning that some of them play a lot better with the "tunneling" playstyles. I personally just think you play at the lower level which somewhat I envy you, but at high level against a team you are looking at one kill before the gens are all done along with a possible second kill at the end game. Sounds to me like you cannot correlate survivors doing their objective efficiently to a killer doing theirs efficiently. Which what I would say to that is, take a break or move on to a different game. Please stop whining at every turn a trial didn't go in your favor.

    Dead by Daylight has no rules.

  • katoptriskatoptris Member Posts: 2,424

    Who cares? There no rules except no hacks and exploits.

  • DangerScouseDangerScouse Member Posts: 945

    Again, and respectfully, this is the problem. You havent defined tunnelling. You have just given 4 different variations on something, without defining what the original something is.

    Not disagreeing with your variants, but it seems the only common thread across all 4 is that the killer downs someone they have previously downed. And it seems you are saying anytime that hapoens we can define it as tunneling. Thats wrong. And with a brush so broad, it gives Survivors carte blanche to complain at something that isn't complain worthy.

  • DangerScouseDangerScouse Member Posts: 945

    Plus, surely "Accidental Tunneling" is an oxymoron.

  • ZeidoktorZeidoktor Member Posts: 1,275
    edited May 19

    Depends. If you've got multiple of the same survivor using the same or similar skins it's probably easy to mix up who's who if you're trying to keep track.

  • SimfelizSimfeliz Member Posts: 1,990

    Good god! There are categories to tunneling now?

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