It made sense, I agree. I also liked that you had to be smart with it since it was a one time use perk. However I get why it was even more frustrating for killers with 4 bts endgame.
I am fine with bodyblocking with BT, I can wait 12 seconds. What pisses me off is having to wait DS afterwards since it's more 48 seconds of invulnerability.
Well sorry, but I for one am not trying to tunnel and with the unhooked survivor in my face, and with me trying to get around you, you are essentially wasting all your rights that I gave you, because I wasn't gonna tunnel you, but obviously you want my attention
Not really. If a survivor gets the full duration of DS then they are wandering around not doing any objectives. At worst they can be healed up and then just bodyblock for other people in hopes of tricking the killer into picking them up after they've been downed again.
There is nothing wrong with it. The killer might wait out BT and hook you again but that is also ok since it's the only logical thing to do. What's not ok is survivors using their anti-tunnel perks in a way that basically forces the killer to tunnel them and then complain. Also keep in mind: Even if the survivor that bodyblocked with BT had DS as well, the killer might pick them up, getting it out of the way early and leaving this survivor vulnerable to tunnel. It's playing smart. Neither side should complain about it.
90% of the time camping and tunneling didnt even occur. I have lots and lots of time under survivor even though i am mostly killer now. majority of killers dont camp or tunnel. most bubbas arent basement bubbas. periodically checking the hook is not camping. Making an intelligent play and going after the idiot that just ran in front of you thats injured is not tunneling.
Tunelling doesnt exist when 2 gens are left. Tunneling doesnt exist in egc. the survivor rulebook doesnt actually exist. Kill the survivors.
No, it's not fine. It's basically one perk protecting two people at once, that's too much power. Survivors at high level of play will repeatedly abuse the perk with this advantage in mind, you're basically without a chance as a m1 killer. Especially during endgame when they're running off to the exit gate.
It's not a misplay, it's 2-3 healthy survivors swarming a hook to secure a guaranteed unhook just to shortly after trigger Dead Hard the second you try to follow up with another hit. The sheer audacity in all of this is the unhooked survivor bodyblocking you while you're trying to establish a hook-trade.
It's just a general thing that always happens around endgame when all I can do is camp the sole survivor I hooked since there's nothing else for me to do. It's also the reason why I started bringing STBFL and Rancor to absolutely deter save attempts during that phase of the game. I only play m1 killers, by the way.
I pretty much stopped using NOED since it's too unreliable. Either it gets broken superfast or the survivors are already injured and will deny your m1 attacks with Dead Hard. STBFL and Rancor are pretty much godlike during endgame since no one can prevent you from maxing out your stacks and twohitting people who attempt unhooks. At 40% attack cooldown reduction you can deny unhooks entirely.
wanna bodyblock with bt? fine, but you shouldn't be allowed to D strike right after the killer for punish your aggressive play with a DEFENSIVE PERK... bt was thinked to gave the unhooked survivor an opportunity to escape from the killer, not taking protection hits... if you use it in that way you are exploiting a perk out of his intended purpose imo
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It made sense, I agree. I also liked that you had to be smart with it since it was a one time use perk. However I get why it was even more frustrating for killers with 4 bts endgame.
BT is fair in this regard, imo.
You can use it to bodyblock at the risk of the killer not taking the bait and downing you.
At that point, you're down a hook state or losing DS for nothing.
It's certainly not a free action against decent killers.
I am fine with bodyblocking with BT, I can wait 12 seconds. What pisses me off is having to wait DS afterwards since it's more 48 seconds of invulnerability.
Well sorry, but I for one am not trying to tunnel and with the unhooked survivor in my face, and with me trying to get around you, you are essentially wasting all your rights that I gave you, because I wasn't gonna tunnel you, but obviously you want my attention
If anything, they are tunneling the killer, lol
Unless that survivor was the obsession, lol
But its a annoying one.
Yeah and then they get mad, when you call their bluff and capitalize on it.
Not really. If a survivor gets the full duration of DS then they are wandering around not doing any objectives. At worst they can be healed up and then just bodyblock for other people in hopes of tricking the killer into picking them up after they've been downed again.
There is nothing wrong with it. The killer might wait out BT and hook you again but that is also ok since it's the only logical thing to do. What's not ok is survivors using their anti-tunnel perks in a way that basically forces the killer to tunnel them and then complain. Also keep in mind: Even if the survivor that bodyblocked with BT had DS as well, the killer might pick them up, getting it out of the way early and leaving this survivor vulnerable to tunnel. It's playing smart. Neither side should complain about it.
If they want to throw, who am I to stop them?
I don't personally care about their feelings or egos.
My chat is off...I'm playing the game with complete immunity from vitriol and idiocy.
Oh you´re are missing on some pretty irrational stuff.
90% of the time camping and tunneling didnt even occur. I have lots and lots of time under survivor even though i am mostly killer now. majority of killers dont camp or tunnel. most bubbas arent basement bubbas. periodically checking the hook is not camping. Making an intelligent play and going after the idiot that just ran in front of you thats injured is not tunneling.
Tunelling doesnt exist when 2 gens are left. Tunneling doesnt exist in egc. the survivor rulebook doesnt actually exist. Kill the survivors.
No, it's not fine. It's basically one perk protecting two people at once, that's too much power. Survivors at high level of play will repeatedly abuse the perk with this advantage in mind, you're basically without a chance as a m1 killer. Especially during endgame when they're running off to the exit gate.
Admittedly, I turn it on sometimes to add to the collection.
Of course, I remain polite and say things like GG
GL Next Game
Thanks for playing
If you are experiencing this in all of your games, you're not playing mean enough to disincentivize it.
Generally, if someone tries it in my games, they're dead and the rest of the team knows better than to try it on the next rescue.
Allowing a hook save in endgame (without the guarantee of another down) is a misplay in and of itself.
It's not a misplay, it's 2-3 healthy survivors swarming a hook to secure a guaranteed unhook just to shortly after trigger Dead Hard the second you try to follow up with another hit. The sheer audacity in all of this is the unhooked survivor bodyblocking you while you're trying to establish a hook-trade.
What killer/perks are you using?
Your statement has me curious.
It's just a general thing that always happens around endgame when all I can do is camp the sole survivor I hooked since there's nothing else for me to do. It's also the reason why I started bringing STBFL and Rancor to absolutely deter save attempts during that phase of the game. I only play m1 killers, by the way.
STBFL definitely helps, as do perks like Rancor and NOED.
Most M1 killers also have slight nuances that can help in the situation, especially in tandem with the above perks.
I pretty much stopped using NOED since it's too unreliable. Either it gets broken superfast or the survivors are already injured and will deny your m1 attacks with Dead Hard. STBFL and Rancor are pretty much godlike during endgame since no one can prevent you from maxing out your stacks and twohitting people who attempt unhooks. At 40% attack cooldown reduction you can deny unhooks entirely.
And then I wait out the BT, and they have DS. Ok, I slug, then they unbreakable.
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I don't mind but it starts to get annoying when I experience multiple BT bodyblock situations in single match.
I get what you mean, but if I'm doing by best to be nice and not tunnel, and you shove BT down my throat I'll get pissed.
I have no problems with BT. Just don't get mad when you try to body block me with BT, I wait it out and down you again.
Body blocking with BT is the easiest way to get a killer to camp you, then you can proceed to say "camping noob" in endgame chat
It's a great move. I usually wait for 12 seconds before giving a hit and putting back to hook.
Had survivors complain about tunneling, when i went out of my way to not tunnel them. They died with 20k bloodpoints and still were mad at me.
wanna bodyblock with bt? fine, but you shouldn't be allowed to D strike right after the killer for punish your aggressive play with a DEFENSIVE PERK... bt was thinked to gave the unhooked survivor an opportunity to escape from the killer, not taking protection hits... if you use it in that way you are exploiting a perk out of his intended purpose imo
I'm kind of surprised that so many people are upset with BT bodyblocking.
I play both sides and, under most circumstances/against decent killers, it's a throw/ticket to Tunnel Town.