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DBD And Poor Mental Health

Zeon_99Zeon_99 Member Posts: 399

I've made a post about this a long time ago, but I genuinely think that this game is not for a good amount of people. The amount of hate and bitterness that I see from people sometimes makes me believe that they're one bad night on DBD away from doing something bad IRL.

I played against this streamer the other night, slugged us constantly and let us all bleed out with 4 flans and a red mori. Whatever, it happens every so often with some people, nothing new right? Well my random teammates recognized him and said in the chat that they looked forward to the VOD so they can see him freak out again. Okay, Ill do the same I guess, it has me curious. So and I take a peek into the VOD the next morning and I was worried for how angry and bitter this young kid was. Maybe like 17 or 18 years old, saying some of the most vile things ever that would get me banned on here if I repeat them. Sure this isn't anything new to online gaming, but I've been around a long time with online gaming and this was reeeeally bad.

I tried going into his stream the next chance I could to try to befriend him, I asked him to play together or talk sometime. He immediately lashed out and said "I don't play with no name losers. I'm the top Wraith on the leaderboards for a reason." and banned me. I tried, I guess :( (Also this game has leaderboards???)

I've noticed other things like people being afraid to play killer because survivors will bully them. Content creators, big ones, making entire careers out of toxicity to get a rise out of people or to show how good they are at the game by lobby dodging and recording numerous games until they bully the right people for YouTube. I think that's why I made my entire playstyle around being "Babysitter Steve" and making sure everyone lives, then die afterwards for the killer. Defend the killer if my team lashes out on the killer in endgame chat. Maybe I can help people feel nice after the game?

If a game is making you stressed out to the point where you feel like you're afraid of being bullied or feel the desire to be rotten to other people who are just trying to have a good time, please take a break. That kind of mentality isn't healthy. I just want everyone to stay happy and safe, heck Ill even take being content.

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  • ColonGlockColonGlock Member Posts: 1,090
    edited July 1

    This game is designed to give the roller-coaster emotions of frustration and elation. I have only been able to play it with long breaks in-between goals achieved. I wonder if the redesign will change how it feels.

    I would like for the devs to disable or allow us to disable the defeat music when people get sacrificed or the "entity hungers".

    No need to rub salt in the wound.

  • KerJuiceKerJuice Member Posts: 1,495

    Ever seen the movie Crash? That’s the DBD community. Everyone perpetuating their stereotypes while treating each other like crap, which then causes a domino effect of the victims taking it out on someone else. It’s a never ending cycle.

  • NazzzakNazzzak Member Posts: 489

    Good on you for trying. There is unfortunately a lot of angry people in the world, and I feel social media only makes it worse. I don't know enough about gaming and it's effects on mental health, but I hope at the very least it provides an outlet for his anger so he doesn't direct it at anybody in real life. It's why being hit repeatedly on hook doesn't overly bother me as a survivor, because it makes me wonder how angry the person on the other side of the screen is and if this is what maybe makes them feel better

  • CybilCybil Member Posts: 632

    This is not the kind of game that should be played when in a bad mood. I can't tell you how many times I've lost it when trying to have a decent time as solo survivor. I've said some seriously bad stuff in my worst moments, but I never take that aggression out on people. The individual you're talking about will hopefully look back on his attitude someday and cringe. I know my face would be red if someone heard me at my worst.

  • humanbeing1704humanbeing1704 Member Posts: 7,426

    I definitely don't recommend playing this game if you are in a bad mood that's for sure

  • Chaos999Chaos999 Member Posts: 532

    You are overthinking it too much. Children like that are simply a sign of the current times.

    You can find them and more like them raging over a burnt breakfast, a bad grade, a TV commercial, a girl saying no and pretty much anything. The effect of gaming induced frustration on their emotional imbalance is not that great and definitely not the cause.

    If anything its better that they blow out some steam over the internet, rather than doing it IRL. Sadly they will likely grow up to be broken adultoids that mess up everything around them, but that hardly new.

    Thumbs up to you for trying to make the game fun for everyone else. I try to do the same from the killer side, though I gotta tell you, it can be annoying to have a mule headed survivor that runs to the basement during EGC after you carry them to the exit gate xD. You shouldn't force the killer to kill you :p

  • BloodshadeBloodshade Member Posts: 3,005
    edited July 1

    Finally someone else says it. That defeat stinger is psychologically (and auditorily) brutal. I'd much rather have a sort of creepy piano trailing off or something. At least for killer, as I think it does suit being killed as survivor. Something that's more ambiguous and speaks "they got away, but maybe next time...", which is what it seems like they were going for when changing the end screen to "the entity hungers".

  • BloodshadeBloodshade Member Posts: 3,005
    edited July 2

    E: Quote reply redacted

    Who pissed in your Cheerios?

    Post edited by Bloodshade on
  • SlowpeachSlowpeach Member Posts: 443

    To be fair I think DBD doesn't cause it but it does make it worse.

    Not the current times. Entitled children and adults for that matter is older then dirt. It's just more common to see it because of the Internet.

    Having said that DBD's design certainly could take more steps to being less toxic. The fact that they wanted teabagging to look fluid speaks volumes as to what they think of toxicity. Then they are surprised at the amount of toxicity. Not everyone views such things as harmless 'smack talk'.

    There's ways of integrating 'harmless' smack talk into the games design such as rewarding survivors for taunting, an action which could occasionally be used to earn bloodpoints in exchange for pointing them out to the killer when they are within a certain visible range and the killer gets points if they down them. Sure some might still get upset and you can't (and shouldn't) protect everyone but throwing up your hands and saying 'it's too hard' or 'it's harmless smack talk' just encourages negative behavior to continue.

    Exhibit A.

  • SlowpeachSlowpeach Member Posts: 443

    Using video games to escape. See the problem?

    Also murder is part of the game and just accepted. They personally aren't getting murdered. I know there's no helping you and you won't understand my point of view but can you at least accept there are people different from yourself with different upbringings and 'origin' stories for lack of better word and different things which cause them distress. Think less of them if you want but keep such opinions and feel superior to yourself.

  • Ghouled_MojoGhouled_Mojo Member Posts: 1,851

    I spent most of yesterday wondering if I died in the bathroom at work, how long would it take before someone noticed barring my wife and 3189 kids. If someone is getting triggered by this game to that level, they have ######### issues.

  • ShroompyShroompy Member Posts: 3,384

    Not just DbD

    This is something that affects all games

    does it make it right? no. but no need to single out DbD

  • akaTheBARONakaTheBARON Member Posts: 269

    Big props to you for that. Also yeah, he made his own leader board I'd image, but hey. We all been there LOL

    Seriously though, this game can be a TOXIC mess sometimes. Some people play it because they enjoy it, stream it because they enjoy it, and it causes people who simply lose what should be a friendly match to lash out. sometimes even going out of their way to find them on steam, see if they stream, see if they're live, ect. Sad. I've met a lot of great people playing so there's some good too :)

  • SkeletalEliteSkeletalElite Member Posts: 2,220
    edited July 1

    The leaderboard is steam only, but it can be found at https://dbd.tricky.lol/

    Used to be something like dbdontehnet, but they changed the domain for some reason.

    I was top 75 on it for blight for a while but then I switched to epic games store

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  • CybilCybil Member Posts: 632

    Case in point- I just had 4 terrible solo queue games in a row and now I'm in a awful mood. I should have just continued my Silent Hill 2 playthrough instead.

  • Zeon_99Zeon_99 Member Posts: 399

    Thank you guys for the kind words!

    I figured he wouldn't bite, but it definitely would've hung over my head if I didn't try.

  • cheetocultleadercheetocultleader Member Posts: 1,194

    Steve Harrington would be proud of you, being the best mom to lost children I've ever seen after all. <3

    But no, that was really kind of you. As someone who has struggled with their mental health in various ways over my life time, I can say video games have been an escape for me. But, it's what you bring to the table and make it. I've seen people be gross and negative with Stardew Valley. Probably one of the most wholesome games of all time, and yet they still managed it.

  • GindaenGindaen Member Posts: 374

    There was an Asmogold video I watched where he was talking about Diablo Immortal and he said one of the truest things I've ever seen. He said that if a game is making the player base resentful, then the game will start dying quickly. He said there was a difference with being angry at the game, everyone gets angry, but when players start actively resenting a game then that game is dying. Resentful players are harder to bring back to the game and usually it spreads.

    I linked the youtube video below where he talks about this and set it to start at the point-in-time where the resentment speech begins. It's only a couple of minutes long.

    https://youtu.be/jhdXcXfQ0wk?t=1516

  • graveyard_7777graveyard_7777 Member Posts: 228

    Alot of swfs and survivors don't realize there's a person playing the role of killer. As a killer main myself the constant hate messages, teabagging, along with the stress of having to weigh out multiple things in the match does become overwhelming sometimes.

    But I tell myself someone has to play that 1 role so 4 other people have a game they can play with their friends

  • QwQwQwQw Member Posts: 4,473

    Big W post.

    I try and have a similar mindset to you when I play; sticking up for my teammates and GG-ing the killer after the match. (And trying to avoid tunneling or camping as killer.)

    Honestly, I have to agree that DbD is not that good for your mental health. Obviously it wavers from person to person, but most people I know cannot play DbD for that long without having to take a break. I admit there have been many times where I myself wanted to just go outside and break something.

  • bittercranberrybittercranberry Member Posts: 443

    you"re to kind :))

    thanks for being a helping hand, not much people out there like you!!

  • NoTerrorRadiusNoTerrorRadius Member Posts: 197

    OP, what you did was very cool. 👍🏾

  • Eye66Eye66 Member Posts: 808

    The game is the best thing I have (and have ever tried really) for venting out my negative emotions and thoughts but sometimes the really bad troll squads make me turn that inwards and I compulsively do a lot of damage, that why I can't stand the "Trolling killer is funny" attitude people have, it actually has real world blowback on my mental health and physical well-being.

  • Zeon_99Zeon_99 Member Posts: 399

    I agree completely. Video games are my way to have my alone time and escape my hectic life. Sometimes I come home mad, but saving people on DBD makes me feel so much better. It also makes me feel better knowing I might've had a chance of making someone's night better

  • Grandpa_Crack_PipeGrandpa_Crack_Pipe Member Posts: 2,689

    It's amazing how much better games would be if people didn't

  • MrSheep51MrSheep51 Member Posts: 63

    Good to speak up about this. People who say "grow thicker skin" havent dealt with or had a friend/family member deal with genuine mental health issues.

    The bullying on this game can really get out of hand. Most wouldn't do it if they weren't behind a screen.

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