I am also confused by people's statements that cheaters are "targeting" Fog Whisperers and content creators. Are we sure this can even happen the way the lobby system is set up?
I think the best answer so far is for BHVR to step up their anti-cheat sub-system instead of forcing players to get punished for legitimate non-malicious disconnects.
If I get a cheater holding me hostage, which is very very rare, I just go AFK and do something else. However, I have zero people following me so I feel for streamers who get stuck in those situations.
Is it true that Fog Whispers get no DC penalty? I am pretty sure I have seen Otz have to wait one out after a crash, and I would think he would be the most obvious steamer to get a pass on them since he is the FW with the largest following.
Cool. Nice to know that I'm just completely #########. Get held hostage. Or eat penalty after penalty
I tried to reply to an earlier statement that someone made about not being able to target. (I'm not sure whay it did not appear in the thread.... moderation settings????) What was explained to me last night, by a streamer who had spoken to one of the cheaters, they are using some kind of software which doesn't 100% guarantee getting into a specific streamers lobby, but it makes it more likely.
SpookNJukes had a video the other day where he was on Pc and was met with a hacker, he went afk, booted up his PS5 and the first match he gets into was another match with a hacker doing the same thing as the first.
First hacker starts at 3:40
But. I was told in the thread I made about potentially disabling the DC penalty for now. That hackers don't happen that often. That I don't get held hostage that often.
Ive had the same 2 hackers in my lobby as killer b2b 5 games in a row, usually a dwight or nea.
It's a toggleable whitelist the devs have I believe
I think they disabled DC penalties for tru3 at one point as well because cheaters kept giving him 72 hour ones. At the very least devs can manually remove someone's DC penalty so this whitelist thing shouldn't really come as a surprise
Although, once again it goes to show BHVR doing the most bandaid possible fix to a problem
"Cheaters targetting content creators and streamers of our game? Let's just let the ones we care the most about DC". While I don't think it's their intention to leave non FW content creators to eat dirt, it doesn't seem like much else will happen for a while since anti-cheating measures are usually pushed with regular updates which takes time
When that happened they first got rid of Tru3 penalty then hackers did it again so BHVR just got rid of DC penalties for everyone.
About what you say in your second paragraph I believe BHVR usually takes action without thinking all posible outcomes (or at least the worst possible outcomes), giving Whisperers the privilege of not having penalties because they are being targeted while others having worse issues are left behind may create a huge PR blunder, especially since some very big time streamers are left out and they have a very big fanbase... which is exactly what is happening.
Yeah I remember cheaters kept doing it so the devs kept disabling it for everyone until they fixed whatever exploit they were using
Pretty funny ngl.
And for those doubting the validity of Tru3s claim....
Oh, there is a Fog Whisperer version of the game! LOL
I believe this is going to become much worse before it starts to get fixed... not gonna put what I think its going to happen to not give hacker ideas (or get myself banned) but if what I think is going to happen does happen they better act quick.
Just join the fog whisperers dude. Clearly BHVR is only cares about them. Hackers can target other players but not FW!
I'll get right on that. I'm sure they want my 10 viewer average ass. 🤣
Hey, viewers are not everything. You are good player 😅
Is anybody really surprised only BHVR's best little shills are given the privilege of not having their experience completely ruined by a rampant hacker problem that they're basically doing nothing about
BHVR tends to like the people who reach a more broad audience.
I'm just surprised BHVR chose to go down this path of "protecting" some streamers, when it's pretty obvious what is going to happen to those who don't have the same protection.
I don't really see an issue with this if it's true, they tend to be the people most targeted by hackers so this seems reasonable. Although preferably BHVR just gets their ######### together on the security front and gets a better anticheat system.
But cheaters aren't targeting you, you just get unlucky
I'd say in the past week or 2 probably about 5% of my games have a hacker, many of which held the game hostage. 1 Was subtle hacking (had endurance every time i hit them even though they had no perks and no items that gave endurance and wasn't off of hook or anything.) And another where they just finished all the gens and immediately escaped in 5 seconds. It's happening to regular people too.
The problem is that they target you. For example, let's say i don't play by the survivor rulebook one game and they get mad. Now they can target me by joining my lobby over and over again and having a different name.
11 posts up you can see Tofu confirming they're off for him. Get your facts straight before starting with the boogeyman nonsense.
This was my thought. The knee-jerk reaction is to get mad, but really, this is just acknowledging (as much as they ever will) that there's a cheater problem and they can't stop people from targeting big name players en masse.
You're SoL if you're a major content creator but not a Fog Whisperer, though. Although, on the other hand, the vetting is important so that they wouldn't hand out the privilege to somebody who would abuse it - giving streamers (or god forbid, everybody) the ability to DC carte blanche would be a horrible idea.
Killer cheaters tend to be less hostage-holdy and more murder you all immediately, but I've still seen clips of ones like Trappers whose traps take 10 minutes to struggle out of or Pigs who spawn you in with a trap and the search is at self-care+sloppy+coulro+pentimento speed.
This is not correct. There are cheater programs that let you pick who you're going up against (it's something like preventing them from getting into a match with any lobby but yours), and even lists of major streamer IDs annotated with how those players react to cheaters and whether they're 'fun' targets to grief or if they'll just DC with minimal raging.
Everyone gets cheaters, but major content creators tend to get more of them for the sake of notoriety.
Video of it
The Tofu clip was only from about 2 or 3 days ago. I can't remember, but it was very recent. It is possible this whitelist did not exist 2 weeks ago. That being said, True's opinions on the game are mostly objective. I just wouldn't trust him with his weird cryptocurrency obsession. He does have a pretty decent track record for DbD in particular. I know survivor mains hate him, but facts are facts. They wouldn't hate him if he was always wrong. Lol.
This is false. I won't go into details because that would be violating the forum rules so you'll have to take my word for it, but there are hacks that allow you to see the killer (meaning you could dodge until you get who you're aiming for), to modify your mmr, meaning you could get a fresh EGS account, modifiy it to be high mmr, and be likely to be put into the streamer's lobby, and even to force specific players into a lobby. And that's not even going to plain old streamsnipping.
Stop playing. That's my best advice.
If you look it says they can DC against cheaters if they have proof so more than likely when they DC they are probably contacted by a staff member that asks for the proof