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DbD total victory over other games in the genre

PirulukPiruluk Member Posts: 553

VHS dubbed by streamers as the dbd killer, latter changed to a competitor, player count declining rapidly went from 5k to 500-1300 players maximum. Probably will cease development soon.

Evil dead the game shutdown one of the US servers due to lack of players. Others expected to follow. Only EU and US server remain

Home Sweet Home Survive shutting down EU and US server.

Spirit Detective lost all of the global playerbase.

Propnight peak player count is 300 players daily.

So DbD is the king of the genre, no competition.



  • PhasmamainPhasmamain Member Posts: 10,206

    I doubt VHS will cease development. It’s on,y major issue atm is the lack of monster players compared to teen which was an issue dbd has faced for quite awhile until now

  • edgarpoopedgarpoop Member Posts: 5,784

    VHS is really puzzling. They had such a long beta with consistent feedback about monster being boring and the alarming frequency of long drawn out stalemates. Did absolutely nothing about it, launched early access, and went radio silent since.

    I really don't understand why so many asymm devs think players want to play 20-30 minute games when the king of the genre (DbD) has games regularly end in 7-15. You create so many self-inflicted queue issues when games last 20+ minutes and you have a population imbalance (looking at you, VHS).

  • MooksMooks Member Posts: 10,874

    What even is Spirit Detective? Gotta look into that one.

    otherwise, the Texas Chainsaw game is gonna release soon and looks actually promising from artstyle and gameplay? But.. eh.. DbD is obviously doing something right which is lacking with these others..

  • PepsidotPepsidot Member Posts: 1,523

    I stopped listening to people saying DBD would die when F13 The Game, but especially Last Year and Hide Or Die completely flopped. I don't see VHS being any different. Although to be fair to F13 - it was fun, but unfortunately had licensing issues.

  • PirulukPiruluk Member Posts: 553

    Texas won't belong in the genre since will be 3 vs 4 players!!!

    It's closer to midnight ghost hunt which was 4 vs 4, btw player count is 90 players at peak times lol.

  • PirulukPiruluk Member Posts: 553

    Yeah but unlike dbd which was fun as killer even when underpowered, there is nothing like that for monster in VHS, its just boring extremely so, not unbalanced.

  • MooksMooks Member Posts: 10,874

    I don’t think the genre is strictly 1v4/many though, as long as it’s asymmetrical?

    i mean otherwise you could also make the arguments the others games aren’t the same genre because the ‚survivor‘ side can fight back/kill the killer and all.. doesn’t need to be a hard copy..

  • Marc_go_soloMarc_go_solo Member Posts: 2,960

    One problem is that when a competitor arrives on the scene, some people immediately champion it as the game that will topple DBD and kill it off, rather than just treat it as a separate game. Of course, there will be comparisons, but those games cannot grow at a reasonable, manageable rate because everyone has jumped in, hyping it up, and then - as with all games like this in their infancy - there will be rough edges, but players would have had such high hopes that they feel the game let them down and interest wains.

    These games are there as competition, and I hope more come along to do well. But if they are always heavily hyped then it leads for disappointment, regardless of how good it is. There won't be a game for some time that will "kill" DBD - only games that will make their name and try to succeed for itself.

  • NazzzakNazzzak Member Posts: 761

    Apparently the VHS Discord is/was full of ranting about DBD. When I heard that I felt like it didn't bode well for the game. I don't think it's a bad game by any means at all, I think it stands alone just fine, but when the player base is seemingly drawn together out of mutual spite towards another game then its not a good sign imo

  • CoffeecrashingCoffeecrashing Member Posts: 668

    VHS encourages all the survivors to use voice communication and map pings, and then wonders why the games feel absolutely miserable as killer.

  • SgtMittensSgtMittens Member Posts: 249

    I hope this isn't being presented as a "victory" of some sort. It's terrible for the marketplace and the biggest reason why BVHR just keeps making changes every week.

  • SgtMittensSgtMittens Member Posts: 249

    The biggest problem with DBD is SWF. Always has been and always will be. It's a problem in other games too but they have built in voice chat. DBD's entire premise was to see if 4 STRANGERS could work together with limited communication and escape. It was never intended to be anything else. I wish there was an option to play either without perks for everyone or ensure all 4 survivors aren't connected. All of these changes do help killers but none of it is helpful to solo players.

  • dugmandugman Member Posts: 9,016

    Yeah, Evil Dead has potential to be a game I might like but I played it a couple times and didn’t really get into it. 🤷‍♂️ It’s a shame it hasn’t found a way to catch on so far.

    VHS didn’t interest me though, it looks more like an Overwatch style game than a DbD type. Not that Overwatch is a bad game but if I want to play that type of action shooter I’d still be playing Overwatch.

  • SimfelizSimfeliz Member Posts: 2,500

    I was the same with Evil Dead. I paid full price for the deluxe version when it released. Played once and haven't again. A fool and his money...

    Did the same with VHS but at least I didn't spend any cash on that. I played the monster and I just felt the whole match I was just walking around trying to actually find the teens. It was boring.

  • PhasmamainPhasmamain Member Posts: 10,206

    That I agree with. Monster is a role I don’t think they can fix tbh. It’s boring whether you win or lose

  • ThatOneDemoPlayerThatOneDemoPlayer Member Posts: 5,623

    I don't think you can compare DbD to ED. They might both be asymmetrical games, but ED is the polar opposite of DbD

  • TheSubstituteTheSubstitute Member Posts: 1,103

    I hope VHS can resolve its difficulties but, realistically, no game that's out there will 'kill' DbD. As @StarLost mentioned, DbD is highly polished with lots of experience and development behind it. A different asymmetrical game can still be successful as gamers can and do play different games but DbD has too much going for it to be dethroned by anything less than falling into complacency.

  • TWiXTTWiXT Member Posts: 1,931

    Evolve Stage 2 is starting to see an uptick in popularity, but only a couple thousand players. Considering it came out in 2015, and its base died fast in only a year and a half due to shady dealings by the publisher designed to milk as much money as possible from the gamers via DLC packs, I'm actually surprised about its current (if meager) rise from the dead.

    Still don't see it making enough of a comeback to compete with DbD though.

  • SmoeSmoe Member Posts: 628
    edited August 10

    Imo, the people who jumps on the dbd-killer bandwagon does more harm than good in keeping healthy competition alive, it should never be about replacing something that already exist, but to have something that can co-exist with one another.

  • HoodiedHoodied Member Posts: 12,888

    I wouldn’t call it a king, cause Assymetrical games like this are HARD AS HELL to balance while also keeping it fun, most of the game that did die either couldn’t find a way to balance it enough to keep it fun, had poor advertisement, or takes way too long to change some things…sometimes all of the above even

    DBD still holds ground as it does cause the variety the game has makes it feel different to play than the other games so unless another assymetrical game releases that actually is just people surviving against licensed killers, expect dbd to have the high ground for awhile

  • ausanimalausanimal Member Posts: 531

    I wouldn't call DBD the king of the genre the one thing that made so many people play it was that playing survivor was easy for so long compared to other games.

    Like someone said hide or die flopped and is was because of a few reasons but one of the biggest is that the devs changed the game from LMS which is what people backed on kickstarter to a DBD copy because so many people complained that it wasn't fun getting killed then that was it there was no stages just death on first time, they couldn't loop the killer they had to hide from it yet the name of the game was hide or die. so when it came out in EA people didn't like it because DBD was better and hide or die was just a copy.

    F13th is a great fun game in my view but apart from the legal issues once they get the balance of the game in a good spot people found playing survivor was a lot harder then DBD, if people think solo q is bad in DBD then they should try F13th where once Jason finds you your pretty much dead and that could be 1 min into the game, to escape you can do it solo but chances are low you really need to work as a team to get out. I watched a group of DBD streamers try it a couple months ago when it was Friday the 13th and yer they found it fun but also a lot harder then DBD when it came to playing survivor.

    So for people that wanted a easy mode when they played survivor DBD was the game to go to as it allowed that until the last patch and look at the outcry from survivors because the game wasn't as easy anymore.

  • KayTwoAyyKayTwoAyy Member Posts: 1,105

    I've played VHS twice, and I didn't enjoy it.

    ...but I wouldn't write it out just yet.

    If the devs of VHS nurse their game, it can easily grow into something far more popular.

  • StarLostStarLost Member Posts: 6,552

    I started playing killer in 2020 - and preferred it to survivor then.

    Yes, the role had a lot of problems, but it was far more engaging than survivor.

    F13 was fun, but it was a mess. Infinite stuns, trolls, hackers...plus, I found that it got old really fast.

    VHS is just so...janky.

  • ausanimalausanimal Member Posts: 531

    Did you ever play it after they buffed Jason so when he got rage only like 3 things could stun him at that point, that was a lot of fun then having a group around you trying to stun you and you just standing there slashing them all to death lol.

  • StarLostStarLost Member Posts: 6,552

    Yup. You could still use the car, in conjunction with other stuns to basically keep him disabled forever.

  • ReinamiReinami Member Posts: 2,664

    The game's just balanced around survivors doing other things. Being scared of the killer, hiding, looking in chests, doing dull totems. The problem is, once survivors don't do that, the game goes way too quick in their favor.

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