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  • OkapiOkapi Member Posts: 839
    edited February 2019

    @twistedmonkey said:
    I am not sure, its an unfun perk by design and needed changed (or deleted) but this change could mean killers start to play in an unfun way for more survivors not just those who used it.

    How? DS now punishes tunneling. Who likes tunneling?

  • IamFranIamFran Member Posts: 1,039

    So you prefer to be tunneled and hooked two times in a minute than being slugged having the opportunity of being healed without being hooked.
    Pretty nonsense.

  • twistedmonkeytwistedmonkey Member, Trusted Posts: 4,262
    edited February 2019

    @Okapi said:

    @twistedmonkey said:
    I am not sure, its an unfun perk by design and needed changed (or deleted) but this change could mean killers start to play in an unfun way for more survivors not just those who used it.

    How? DS now punishes tunneling. Who likes tunneling?

    More slugging for everyone not just those that used DS as they dont know now.
    Bring a Mori more often so they cant use DS.
    Dying Light do you want your obsession to change more often? nope ill just camp them till they die.

    Think about this scenario for one example :-

    Tunnel, slug, soft patrol, hit those that come in, they heal up, rinse and repeat, the survivors will come, history shows that with how much they reward hook campers instead of doing gens.

  • xP3nnyWizexP3nnyWize Member Posts: 282

    @KrustyNuggets said:

    @GraviteaUK said:

    @KrustyNuggets said:
    how is it OP? It literally only extends a chase briefly. There are way more survivor mains than killer mains. 4 survivors vs 1 killer per game. How is killers the CORE base? They are outnumbered. They just keep catering to the whiny ass crybaby butt hurt killers on twitch and reddit and are further killing this game. Not to mention the last DLC was complete trash. I love this game but they are killing it.

    Because there's an abundance of survivors? regardless of how many survivors there are, without a killer there is NO GAME the queues as survivor are long and killer it's instant so that proves how imbalanced the numbers are at the moment.

    So yes the killers are the core.

    you CLEARLY don't know what ur talking about, the survivor to killer ratio is 4:1

    The timer is complete BS, the having to be hooked first is complete BS.

    Bro calm down it's not a big deal that perk isn't a must use perk like how some people think so... just a game man.

  • OkapiOkapi Member Posts: 839
    edited February 2019

    @twistedmonkey said:
    More slugging for everyone not just those that used DS as they dont know now.
    Bring a Mori more often so they cant use DS.
    Dying Light do you want your obsession to change more often? nope ill just camp them till they die.

    If a killer waits a whole minute before picking up an unhooked survivor (4 minutes if they do that for every survivor) they will easily lose the game. Gives the other survivors ample time to rush gens. Anti-Slugging perks also exist.

    Ebony Moris are the only ones that would counter this new DS and it's not like they're exactly common.

    We have no idea how Dying Light will work with changing Obsessions. But I'll give you that it might be an issue. However Dying Light by its very nature encourages tunneling the obsession. Survivors hate being tunneled so in the devs eyes they could see a nerf for DL being okay.

  • ATOMIC_ACE_PUGGATOMIC_ACE_PUGG Member Posts: 303
     Insert Crab dancing video 
  • FenrirFenrir Member Posts: 533

    I'm loving the new changes.

    Thanks devs for doing the right thing!

    Devs did it great
  • twistedmonkeytwistedmonkey Member, Trusted Posts: 4,262
    Okapi said:

    @twistedmonkey said:
    More slugging for everyone not just those that used DS as they dont know now.
    Bring a Mori more often so they cant use DS.
    Dying Light do you want your obsession to change more often? nope ill just camp them till they die.

    If a killer waits a whole minute before picking up an unhooked survivor (4 minutes if they do that for every survivor) they will easily lose the game. Gives the other survivors ample time to rush gens. Anti-Slugging perks also exist.

    Ebony Moris are the only ones that would counter this new DS and it's not like they're exactly common.

    We have no idea how Dying Light will work with changing Obsessions. But I'll give you that it might be an issue. However Dying Light by its very nature encourages tunneling the obsession. Survivors hate being tunneled so in the devs eyes they could see a nerf for DL being okay.

    They already do it and funily enough the only reason why is that it gets rewarded, the point is if it turns out to be viable and many already slugged the DS users why not slug everyone after being unhooked? As I said history shows survivors are reluctant to do gens when killers use strats like this and try to bait the killer away.

    Ebony mories are quite plentiful with people with lots of hours, they just don't always feel the need to always use them unless its an SWF flashlight/toolbox squad, this may give them another reason.

    Dying light is just one perk and I have thought it needs a reworked due to its nature but PWYF and STBFL also mean you don't want to hit the person who used DS on you now.

    Hopefully they are looking at these perks but right now without knowing the concerns are something worth bringing to their attention.
  • thekiller490490thekiller490490 Member Posts: 1,165
    Sounds like you like your OP perk. Nice to see it go
  • The_CrusaderThe_Crusader Member Posts: 3,688
    But now people who want to taunt the killer might have to play properly. Oh no.
  • DemonDaddyDemonDaddy Member Posts: 3,292
    Good balance between use and counters. Even if your slugged, that's 1min for teammates to pick you up or the killer doing nothing while they wait. For those complaining that killer can deny it,  I would respectfully refer you to every survivor rebuttal for hex totems destruction being fair.
  • GamzelloGamzello Member Posts: 828
    🦀 DS is gone! 🦀
  • Misa22Misa22 Member Posts: 35

    Im never gonna use this perk again not worth it personally

    And you would make killer mains really happy. 


    But anyway, I have never used DS, and certainly never will now, but i think the "anti tunnel" change is clever, but yeah, sweaty killer will slug you anyway. Mybe they could do that the timer only works if you are not downed? That would be better. 

    In my case, i always hit the unhooker, because i always think they have Borrowed Time, so yeah.
    My killer games will now be "no DS games" *angelic_choirs.mp3*
  • PlippyPlippy Member Posts: 187

    dancing_crabs_mp4

  • TarveshTarvesh Member Posts: 765
    edited February 2019
    How is it RIP?

    They buffed it.

    It still does the same thing, except with a caveat.

    But now it can reset killer obsession perks up to 4 times every game.
  • scorpioscorpio Member Posts: 324
    So don’t use it? There are tons of useless perks on both sides. This one was OP, now it’s situational. If you couldn’t win without old DS then you are not good. 
  • scorpioscorpio Member Posts: 324

    only ######### killers ######### about DS

    Only ######### survivors use it and are crying about the nerf. It was OP, accept it. Anyone with a brain could see it was OP. 
  • GT_Legend2GT_Legend2 Member Posts: 845
    uwu

  • yeetyeet Member Posts: 1,814

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  • SkerpiTwitchSkerpiTwitch Member Posts: 327

    Ds will be the perk to survivors what Ruin will be to Killers. You need it but it can be countered, so you actually play with 3 perks only

  • HoodiedHoodied Member Posts: 12,600

    @Master said:

    @ToxicFengM1n said:

    @KrustyNuggets said:
    Thanks BHVR for ruining yet another survivor perk, did you take into account Enduring will make it a 1 second stun? The fact that slugging will become a thing again? You keep nerfing survivors, the CORE of your player base, and you will kill this game. I hope all the reddit killers and cry baby Tru3 are happy they are helping to kill this game.

    huh, nerfing one of the most op perks in the game is killing it?
    now last piece is killer is the CORE player base

    Nah it means nerfing HIS playstyle.
    And HE is the core player base, dont forget that

    oof I forgot

  • Tucking_FriggeredTucking_Friggered Member Posts: 636


    sniff

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