I don't quit against Legion, but I will against Hillbilly.
LEgion isn't even as bad to face as Doctor most of the time.
DC’ing is wrong but killing yourself on hook is an option survivors have and should remain. Even though I’m a survivor main and hate when people do it it should be left as an option. People love telling other people how to play but most people play games for enjoyment during their free time. Killers lobby dodge when they don’t think a game will be their idea of fun, survivors don’t have that option (and it wouldn’t be a good idea to let them see killer etc) so killing on hook is their only way out.
Do you think the devs would have to thought Legion needed a rework if there wasn’t so many dc’s vs him?
Yesterday yes, Legion needed rework
Now, not, cuz I purchased em 🤪
If u cant own em, join em
They aren't for me, and they aren't for many others
People don't necessarily disconnect from the Legion, they disconnect from Legions played by lazy people who want a easy 4 man with stupid add-ons
You forgot one thing: suiciding on 1st hook. U will never be able to punish survivors cuz devs will never punish suiciding on hook.
How do you feel about lobby dodging?
It's really annoying that many killers feel so insecure about their skill level that they have to dodge a lobby with regular survivors. Unless it's some toxic, SWF team but then that's mori's got added for. Makes my game bugged too and takes way too long to get in a match. It's worse than 3v1.
So killers are at fault for not facing things they don't feel like they can handle, and are also at fault for taking precautions against things they don't feel like they can handle. Simultaneously, survivors are completely justified in DCing against things they don't feel like they can handle.
No double standard here, no sir.
At least you bought the team however long it took to put you on the hook, which is slightly more than the team would get from you DCing.
There's a huge difference in dcing against a moonwalk exploiting Legion and versing a group comp you may not like. The former has absolutely no counter and the latter actually has things you can do to counter.
Scroll up, that person was complaining about legitimate play (use of add-ons).
There's literally no difference between killing yourself on hook and disconnecting.
Of course I can and I did.
You can make all the excuses you like but nothing changes the fact both acts are about not wanting to play versus something they don't enjoy.
I have only experienced full team disconnects a few times, but not for Legion, but for Clown, Wraith, etc.
Still, I never disconnect from Legion, despite the meager chances of me being able to escape them, because to me disconnecting is a bad thing. Of course there is a rare chance that when a single person disconnects, they had a good reason too, like for me once, I had to get off to help someone in real life.
When more than one person disconnects, I know that something is up. I also hate when killers disconnects, wastes time and really good offerings I gave up for the game. I wish that offering could be returned if wasted. If people disconnects in the middle of a game, the gen count should automatically go down by one unless there was one more gen left.
Disconnecting from a match is worse than lobby dodging ofcourse, which I never denied. It screws the team over completely and makes it easier for a killer to apply pressure. But then, sometimes as a survivor I try to get in lobbies but it takes me over 30 minutes to find a damn game because I keep getting disconnected from the lobby. It's safe to say that it's more than frustrating. To mention a banable offense as disconnecting when in a trial to justify lobby dodging is not going to make any point. Both are annoying as hell to the other side.
No it is not fun for me to stay in the corner while survivors click their flashlights, I will dc. Very straight forward. Find new game where I might have fun. Not playing is not fun.
That has no bearing on the conversation. You said it was not OK for killers to dodge when they don't think they can win, and implied it was not OK for them to bring in add-ons to deal with those situations. You also implied that it was OK for survivors to DC when killers brought in add-ons they couldn't deal with.
Either it's OK for killers to dodge and to bring in whatever they have to deal with tough situations, or it's not OK for survivors to DC when they're faced with something they can't deal with. You can't have it both ways.
I play Legion because I’m fed up with the balance issues and I use the DCing to my advantage.
See, my philosophy is, “If I’m not allowed to play the game, then neither are the Survivors.”
Let dev change system cannot esc from game and not allow to struggle in hook stage 1 and automatically space in stage 2 hook.
That's your choice. But suffer the consequences of dc'ing regularly if you choose to do so. There's a stark difference between dying on first hook, and just dc'ing.
Very straight forward.
Just because I stated the reason (which I have heard from soooo many survivors) it means that that is what I support? Uh, no. I NEVER think disconnecting is good but survivors disconnect from Legion games where they use add-ons such as mix-tape are the reason as people find it unfun that there is absolutely no way to escape a chase or counter it's effects.
Again, survivors disconnecting is something THAT ALMOST NOBODY supports as it screws your team over (so I get screwed a lot too as I play survivor more often than killer), neither is lobby dodging when survivors don't bring any items or the team seems decent, with no toxic names or whatsoever. I find lobby dodging annoying as it bugs my game out which forces me to restart my game and waste my time. You make it seem as if the killer that dodges a lobby had a team in their lobby full of flashlights, med-kits, or strong toolboxes while usually it happens for no clear reason. Just because.
That is MY opinion, which you asked me for earlier in the topic.
To be honest Legion is not that good. Even with mixtape it takes a decent amount of time to down someone, much longer than a competent nurse does. Also, don't forget that survivor's don't need to heal against legion so they save a lot of time they can spend on repairing gens.
person 1: I dont like legion so I dc. he's broken and unfun
person 2: *lays out counters to legion, as if it'll change anything, while completely ignoring why people don't like him*
Legion NEEDS a rework. However, if people just DC against them all the time it's just unfun for everyone.
Try playing a less sweaty Legion and people won’t dc. Not saying you do but I changed my build into something average and I can still have fun and let the others have fun as well. Legion is annoying as hell to play against if they are all tuned up
Even after equipping iron maiden and haunting ground.. people still DC. No ruin.. no M&A. It's kind of annoying. I paid for the DLC i should be able to use it :(
The funny thing is... when all 4 survivors stay.. all the gens end up getting done pretty darn quick. Some survivors might go the whole match without even interacting with me
I’ve played 20 hours the past two weeks. This is the most consistent I’ve played DBD since December. (I started playing in beta, and always stuck around.)
I don’t care about the balance, imbalance or whatever. I just casually play the game these days.
I played against a Legion today, and granted I haven’t played him much but.. Wtf? It is such an unfun experience.
I wanted the match to end so badly. You have to hope you don’t get seen, period. Which in a real game will almost never happen. If you’re seen, there seems to be no juke potential?
I finished out the game and then logged off and played something else. I wasn’t even mad, maybe a bit disappointed. I remember why I stopped playing so much when they first came out.
I haven't needed to do the "no look" cheese since the PTB. And MOST of the legions I play against don't do it. Not since we figured out that putting a CD add-on on feral frenzy is far, far more effective.
No look cheesing makes a chase last way, way to long. You can do it, sure. But you are losing at least 1 gen (if you are lucky, remember that people genrush legion hard)
It's actually funny. Legion isn't actually a strong killer, unless you perk him right (read: perked to your style, there isn't a one true setup but I favor a gen protector build), and know how to apply map pressure. But people act like he's the nurse (but for some reason they are ok with he nurse... Who ignores walls... And floors... And not legion who...Jumps windows and pallets, unless smacked with a pallet, and takes 4 hits of his power to down which will stun him twice, base)
Let's be honest. Content Creators made this problem. This is an opinion based on feeling, and not facts. Peoples favorite creators hate on legion and actively D/C when they see them, and their followers start doing the same. Those people meet at least 3 others per match that see this happen, and start to do it. And it spreads. As the games get worse and worse, more and more people join the hate.