Home Discussions General Discussions
Due to an issue with Hit Validation affecting interactions with Oni players, we are temporarily disabling the feature until the next hotfix.

Why are there so many toxic players?

For whatever reason, I've never had more abuse/anger/general toxicity aimed my direction than I have on DbD. It doesn't put me off, I feed on the salt, but I don't understand why there seems to be such a toxic minority. Almost every match or two there's someone mouthing off at me. 

Is it just the type of players on DbD? Don't understand why there's so much of it. 
«1

Comments

  • TeambossFlozeTeambossFloze Member Posts: 1,260

    Na mate, Overwatch has the most toxic players in the world, Fortnite the most trollest - infact toxicity is not only a great song but also an epidemic that plagues the entire gaming world. In fact you would probably even get toxicity on Pokémon Go these days

  • VellVell Member Posts: 8

    @TeambossFloze said:
    Na mate, Overwatch has the most toxic players in the world, Fortnite the most trollest - infact toxicity is not only a great song but also an epidemic that plagues the entire gaming world. In fact you would probably even get toxicity on Pokémon Go these days

    Disagree. Toxicity is in every game for sure, but Overwatch at least has some form of punishment for toxic behavior, even if it's a bit extensive. To answer your question OP, toxicity is allowed to flourish in Dead By Daylight by the Them vs. Us mentality an asymmetrical game like this instills in people at a base level. People feel a lot safer in treating someone like crap when there's three other people on their side, and the killer feels safe because he can always just get the last word in and then close the lobby. Cap it off with the report system not doing much, and there you go, the toxicity.

  • AsianMammothAsianMammoth Member Posts: 80
    Devs spoiled mainly survivors by making them nearly invincible. So when they lose or when you play in a way that they don't like they think there's something seriously wrong with you and the game and want you out of the game. 
  • VisionmakerVisionmaker Member Posts: 2,051
    Devs spoiled mainly survivors by making them nearly invincible. So when they lose or when you play in a way that they don't like they think there's something seriously wrong with you and the game and want you out of the game. 
    Lol

    Toxic post that demonizes an entire group for the characters they play in a thread about toxicity.

    👌 Rich
  • AshleyWBAshleyWB Member Posts: 4,012
    edited June 2018
    Toxic players just stick out because it's a team game and if you don't win it has to be someone elses fault. Maybe one of the reasons Freddy got nerfed. Toxic players couldn't be bothered to try and learn how he works.
  • ShrimpTwiggsShrimpTwiggs Member Posts: 1,122

    In any game that involves interacting with others, there's going to be toxicity. I wish the dev team would punish toxic behavior more, but people will always find a way.

  • Nos37Nos37 Member Posts: 1,224

    If the killer doesn't know how to play optimally, the survivors are no longer scared by the killer; if the survivors feel safer playing with their friends (SWF), they are no longer scared of the killer. Survivors who aren't afraid feel free to dance around the killer and make the killer feel powerless. The killer gets frustrated and takes that into the next match, doing whatever it takes to secure sacrifices. The survivors in that match don't like if the killer plays scummy, so they do whatever it takes to counter it.

    TLDR; Scummy tactics from one side brings out scummy tactics from the other side, and mostly stems from survivors not being scared in a horror game.

  • EpicFailTryHardEpicFailTryHard Member Posts: 1,316
    it's like a contest to see who can be the biggest [BAD WORD] with no clear winner as this is like a caged deathmatch in terms of actual effort.  
  • RauberRauber Member Posts: 6

    Asymmetrical games are always toxic, honestly, and then DBD divides community in 2 parts, which increases toxicity even more.
    Also, there isnt that many toxic players. It's just that good sport players are rather silent and just throw a gg/dont do anything at all. Toxic players will draw attention and do that kind of thing

  • wolflinkinwolflinkin Member Posts: 52

    Simple fix. Remove the post game chat.

  • OrionOrion Member Posts: 17,112

    Time for a history lesson.

    Back when the game was new and Survivors didn't know how to play exploit the game, they were scared of the Killer, and thus had no time to be dicks. As time went on, exploits were found and abused by them, leading to cockiness and toxicity.

    Killers lashed out in kind, as you would expect. Combine that with the fact that Survivors, being the majority, got their way for years, turning the Killer into little more than a joke, and Killers were pretty frustrated.

    Fast-forward to now. The developers are addressing the balance issues by buffing Killers and nerfing Survivors for the first time. Survivors feel their power is being taken from them, so like racists and homophobes complaining about equality, they play the victim card and pretend the whole world is against them, which (in their minds) justifies their toxicity.
    Meanwhile, Killers are still pretty upset about the developers letting the game get to this state, as well as the Survivors who troll them, so toxicity is very much alive.

  • NMCKENMCKE Member Posts: 7,294
    @StalwartXX I often get called a camper and receive hate mail because I always comeback to the hook when I seen that the hooked survivor has been unhooked. I wish they made this a killer perk already because it's what the community needs. ;)

  • MarknessMarkness Member Posts: 186

    There are popular youtubers that make videos just trolling killers. I hardly see it the other way around. But yeah, that is why.

  • StalwartXXStalwartXX Member Posts: 80
    Nickenzie said:
    @StalwartXX I often get called a camper and receive hate mail because I always comeback to the hook when I seen that the hooked survivor has been unhooked. I wish they made this a killer perk already because it's what the community needs. ;)

    This happens to me a lot. I'm leaving the hook or basement hook, not far away and then they're unhooked. Naturally you're going to turn around to go back. Why survivors think you won't is beyond me
  • Der_SchattenDer_Schatten Member Posts: 80

    Survivor are "Toxic" cuz they dont want to be Camped...
    @Orion him self told me: "A Survivor cant get Camped if he cant be found... or get down". So Survivors use Pallet loops, infinits, Flashlight saves, Body blocks and sabo hooks cuz they dont want to be camped...

    You Ugly Camper made the Survivor Toxic... and cuz you dont stop Camping... survivors will be Toxic.

    Me for example, play VERY Toxic if i see a random Survivor gets tunneled Hardcore... i help where ever i can to not let him die!

  • GlobalGlobal Member Posts: 770
    edited July 2018

    Because the mechanics allow people to troll you but still be safe due to pallets, windows, DS, and Flashlights. Survivors also believe that they are supposed to win every game.

  • KurisKuris Member Posts: 190

    @Der_Schatten said:
    Survivor are "Toxic" cuz they dont want to be Camped...
    @Orion him self told me: "A Survivor cant get Camped if he cant be found... or get down". So Survivors use Pallet loops, infinits, Flashlight saves, Body blocks and sabo hooks cuz they dont want to be camped...

    You Ugly Camper made the Survivor Toxic... and cuz you dont stop Camping... survivors will be Toxic.

    Me for example, play VERY Toxic if i see a random Survivor gets tunneled Hardcore... i help where ever i can to not let him die!

    Flashlight spamming is toxic though. A killer deserves to be toxic back. Just git gud

  • OrionOrion Member Posts: 17,112

    @Der_Schatten said:
    @Orion him self told me: "A Survivor cant get Camped if he cant be found... or get down".

    That is a lie. Maybe you're confusing me for someone who can't write English all that well.

  • Der_SchattenDer_Schatten Member Posts: 80

    @Orion
    "Then your wife needs to learn how to play better and not get caught. It's that simple." your words dude... Dont get caught? Its DBD, you soppused to get caught...

  • KurisKuris Member Posts: 190

    @Der_Schatten said:
    @Orion
    "Then your wife needs to learn how to play better and not get caught. It's that simple." your words dude... Dont get caught? Its DBD, you soppused to get caught...

    no. youre meant to evade the killer. There are literally 2 emblems for it as survivor. To survive, to evade.

  • OrionOrion Member Posts: 17,112

    @Der_Schatten said:
    @Orion
    "Then your wife needs to learn how to play better and not get caught. It's that simple." your words dude... Dont get caught? Its DBD, you soppused to get caught...

    Like Kuris said, you're supposed to not get caught. That's your goal as a Survivor, to survive.

  • Der_SchattenDer_Schatten Member Posts: 80

    @Kuris said:

    @Der_Schatten said:
    @Orion
    "Then your wife needs to learn how to play better and not get caught. It's that simple." your words dude... Dont get caught? Its DBD, you soppused to get caught...

    no. youre meant to evade the killer. There are literally 2 emblems for it as survivor. To survive, to evade.

    ... Why are there two Hook phases? And not a instand death on the hook then? huh? you cant evade the Killer all Round (if you try to do gens).

  • JesyaJesya Member Posts: 1,049
    edited July 2018

    @wolflinkin said:
    Simple fix. Remove the post game chat.

    This kind of works... there are still assholes (toxic) people on consoles that send salty messages after game. However I must say that on pc it feels worse because of the post game chat - maybe an option to opt in/out of chat???
    I have like 6 hours on pc and haven't been back because of the chat at the end I just don't want to deal with. Turned me off real fast.
    It would be interesting to see the metrics of new players on pc that stop playing altogether after a few games - and to somehow correlate that to toxic behavior/chat? (I know this would be hard to decipher why people stop playing but a woman can dream).

    Also: the number of kiddies playing this game is too damn high and that is also a factor.

  • OrionOrion Member Posts: 17,112

    @Der_Schatten said:

    @Kuris said:

    @Der_Schatten said:
    @Orion
    "Then your wife needs to learn how to play better and not get caught. It's that simple." your words dude... Dont get caught? Its DBD, you soppused to get caught...

    no. youre meant to evade the killer. There are literally 2 emblems for it as survivor. To survive, to evade.

    ... Why are there two Hook phases? And not a instand death on the hook then? huh? you cant evade the Killer all Round (if you try to do gens).

    Maybe you can't, but that's what we call a "you" problem. As in "you are not good enough to evade the Killer the entire round". Many Survivors do just fine.

  • KurisKuris Member Posts: 190

    @Der_Schatten said:

    @Kuris said:

    @Der_Schatten said:
    @Orion
    "Then your wife needs to learn how to play better and not get caught. It's that simple." your words dude... Dont get caught? Its DBD, you soppused to get caught...

    no. youre meant to evade the killer. There are literally 2 emblems for it as survivor. To survive, to evade.

    ... Why are there two Hook phases? And not a instand death on the hook then? huh? you cant evade the Killer all Round (if you try to do gens).

    Well , you can evade the killer all round. It happens. But I like your suggestion, maybe survivors should instantly die when they are hooked. Good idea.

  • Der_SchattenDer_Schatten Member Posts: 80

    @Orion said:

    @Der_Schatten said:
    @Orion
    "Then your wife needs to learn how to play better and not get caught. It's that simple." your words dude... Dont get caught? Its DBD, you soppused to get caught...

    Like Kuris said, you're supposed to not get caught. That's your goal as a Survivor, to survive.

    BUT THEN YOU Killers cry about "Toxic" Survivors... Like is sad:

    Survivor are "Toxic" cuz they dont want to be Camped...
    they loop, flashlight CUZ YOU BOTH Just sad: NOT GETTING CAUGHT (HOOKED) is what survivors just need to do. You just sad what i say... Playing toxic to avoid Campers...

  • OrionOrion Member Posts: 17,112

    @Der_Schatten said:

    @Orion said:

    @Der_Schatten said:
    @Orion
    "Then your wife needs to learn how to play better and not get caught. It's that simple." your words dude... Dont get caught? Its DBD, you soppused to get caught...

    Like Kuris said, you're supposed to not get caught. That's your goal as a Survivor, to survive.

    BUT THEN YOU Killers cry about "Toxic" Survivors... Like is sad:

    Survivor are "Toxic" cuz they dont want to be Camped...
    they loop, flashlight CUZ YOU BOTH Just sad: NOT GETTING CAUGHT (HOOKED) is what survivors just need to do. You just sad what i say... Playing toxic to avoid Campers...

    Prolonging chases does not prevent you from getting caught. If you can't read what I'm writing, then don't lie and pretend I'm saying what you're saying.

  • KurisKuris Member Posts: 190

    @Der_Schatten said:

    @Orion said:

    @Der_Schatten said:
    @Orion
    "Then your wife needs to learn how to play better and not get caught. It's that simple." your words dude... Dont get caught? Its DBD, you soppused to get caught...

    Like Kuris said, you're supposed to not get caught. That's your goal as a Survivor, to survive.

    BUT THEN YOU Killers cry about "Toxic" Survivors... Like is sad:

    Survivor are "Toxic" cuz they dont want to be Camped...
    they loop, flashlight CUZ YOU BOTH Just sad: NOT GETTING CAUGHT (HOOKED) is what survivors just need to do. You just sad what i say... Playing toxic to avoid Campers...

    If survivors dodge me the entire round by not being caught, without being toxic, I would and do say gg. They evaded me as the killer. If you feel the need to be unnecessarily toxic (you can evade the killer without an instant blind) then that's not my fault you felt the need to be an asshat.

  • StalwartXXStalwartXX Member Posts: 80
    edited July 2018

    @Der_Schatten said:

    @Orion said:

    @Der_Schatten said:
    @Orion
    "Then your wife needs to learn how to play better and not get caught. It's that simple." your words dude... Dont get caught? Its DBD, you soppused to get caught...

    Like Kuris said, you're supposed to not get caught. That's your goal as a Survivor, to survive.

    BUT THEN YOU Killers cry about "Toxic" Survivors... Like is sad:

    Survivor are "Toxic" cuz they dont want to be Camped...
    they loop, flashlight CUZ YOU BOTH Just sad: NOT GETTING CAUGHT (HOOKED) is what survivors just need to do. You just sad what i say... Playing toxic to avoid Campers...

    There's a major difference between playing well and playing toxic. I've managed to survive plenty of matches as survivor without using flashlights, bodyblocks, looping etc. I just act stealthy and don't make stupid decisions.

    Also, this topic was more about abusive chat and messages being aimed at people rather than toxic play. But it falls under the same thing I guess.

    You also can't justify toxic survivor play by saying its to prevent toxic killer play. If thats your mentality, then even if a killer doesn't camp or tunnel or anything like that, the survivor still will be toxic because of the possibility. That's like saying I should cut up traffic on the road because there's the chance they might cut me off.

  • OrionOrion Member Posts: 17,112

    @StalwartXX said:

    @Der_Schatten said:

    @Orion said:

    @Der_Schatten said:
    @Orion
    "Then your wife needs to learn how to play better and not get caught. It's that simple." your words dude... Dont get caught? Its DBD, you soppused to get caught...

    Like Kuris said, you're supposed to not get caught. That's your goal as a Survivor, to survive.

    BUT THEN YOU Killers cry about "Toxic" Survivors... Like is sad:

    Survivor are "Toxic" cuz they dont want to be Camped...
    they loop, flashlight CUZ YOU BOTH Just sad: NOT GETTING CAUGHT (HOOKED) is what survivors just need to do. You just sad what i say... Playing toxic to avoid Campers...

    There's a major difference between playing well and playing toxic. I've managed to survive plenty of matches as survivor without using flashlights, bodyblocks, looping etc. I just act stealthy and don't make stupid decisions.

    That last bit - not making stupid decisions - is what many Survivors are missing. They want to make stupid decisions and not be punished for it. In short, they want a sandbox game.

Sign In or Register to comment.