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Why do the devs hate survivors?



  • IrisoraIrisora Member Posts: 1,326

    @LadyGamerX said:
    It really feels like this lately. I think they’re just doing too much all at once. It’s like every week I’m expecting more nerfs to survivor side. Maybe we should take a chill pill for a bit lol. 

    They were nerfing killers since the game release. Now 2 years later they are finally taking care a bit more about us. Anyone who says "the devs hate survivors" like the op or "they are always nerfing survivors" is clearly new to the game because it was always the opposite.

  • weirdkid5weirdkid5 Member Posts: 2,104

    @Twiztidt1969 said:
    No I am not great at this game by any means and don't claim to be. But I do enjoy playing it. I don't mind that I die in this game and don't escape most of the time. It is about having fun trying. But the devs seem like they don't care about the lower ranks that just play for fun. I don't try to rank up because every time I get above rank 12 it is all camping and tunneling. So I don't want to get gud. I just want to have fun.

    Then this game isen't for you and you need to stop playing it. This game is in such a terrible state because for the longest time the devs catered to rank 20 noobs like yourself and it completely ######### all over the balance and made this game a nightmare to play at high ranks. If you don't want or desire to improve at this game and instead resign yourself to bitching on the forums because you want ez wins then seriously, Uninstall. We dont want you here.

    I didn't ask for ez wins and did not ask if you wanted me here I was trying to get an answer from the devs. But you did answer my question even if you were being rude about it. I see what you are saying about what may not affect a higher rank may be devastating in a lower one. Maybe they may want to have a competitive mode for people who are into the competitive style of play and a relaxed mode for just fun.
    I've been asking for Ranked and Casual for so long now.

    Not gonna happen.
  • The_ManletThe_Manlet Member Posts: 474
    edited June 2018

    The game is set up so that survivors control the game. The killer is mostly reactionary, and survivors have a much higher skill ceiling and more tools to play with than most killers do. SWF intensifies the issue. Good survivors = survivors win, regardless of killer skill level. Bad survivors = killer wins even if he's even worse than the survivors. This is because the killer is largely reactionary and has no agency. This means that survivors are overpowered when they're good and killers are overpowered when they're not good, regardless of killer skill level. No amount of nerfs to survivors are ever going to change this. It will just make less skilled survivors die even faster. I don't think the devs can fix the balance issues because the problems are fundamental. It's literally impossible for anything but a Nurse to beat a good SWF team.

  • RauberRauber Member Posts: 6

    Jesus, these toxic really shows out the community huh.
    Essentially, Survivors started out real strong. First they had extremely OP perks, then Decisive strike, borrowed time, vacuum etc.. Now, Developers started balancing it out, but due to the fact that they are doing in a short span of time, it looks like they are just nerfing survivors. So yeah, i'm sure the nerfs will stop when a certain point is achieved.

  • NMCKENMCKE Member Posts: 8,050
    @OP I currently like the killers getting buffed, it's more fun and challenging :) However I feel like that certain nerfs are kinda overwhelming (I'll talk about that later) but it goes both ways. Survivors need buffs in certain areas and so do killers, yeah killers may need more buffs than a survivor would but overall it goes both ways.

    The only nerf I dislike is Self Care:
    -I feel like you should lose 25% of your healing progress and get normal regression after instead of completely resetting your progress to 0.
  • SomeissuesSomeissues Member Posts: 1,466
    edited June 2018

    Survivors were ridiculously overpowered at Launch and even becomes stronger when Laurie came in with Decisive Strike. It didn't take long before people figured out how to use infinite as well as well as healing. then people figure out jungle gyms and it kept going from there

    Back then healing was ridiculously overpowered, I used to run infinite build where I can heal myself back in 5-7 seconds or less without the use of medkit, as you can see in this video vs Tru

    Good old times

  • SomeissuesSomeissues Member Posts: 1,466

    and back then when people ask Devs on Infinite, on stream Cote actually responded by saying Survivors are meant to have things that taunt the killer into chasing them and that it's fine.

    It took a ridiculously long time before Infinite was removed from the game, and SWF til this day is still left untouched

    If you think the devs hate survivors, then you clearly have no clue about what you're talking about

  • Mr_Jay_StarkMr_Jay_Stark Member Posts: 539
    What do you mean? I’m hoping this game will finally become a challenge on BOTH sides! Good job devs keep it up
  • IronWolf115IronWolf115 Member Posts: 672

    Well I am just gonna say that when you have 12 killers in the game and only 2 or maybe 3 are viable ( Nurse, Billy and possibly Huntress ) then there are some big issues. But not on the survivor side. Survivors have had Decisive strike for nearly 2 YEARS now and they are only now just considering nerfing it. Self Care doesn't look like it is going anywhere anytime soon, and the pallet "nerfs" that they did actully did nothing and in some cases ( Macmillan Estate ) actually ADDED pallets in. Survivors have not even remotely felt the nerf hammer unlike killers who have had to deal with Freddy getting destroyed a week after his release, ridiculous buffs to the flashlights although at least they reverted that, and whenever they do nerf survivors it feels like they try to compensate them by nerfing killers as well.

  • FrenziedRoachFrenziedRoach Member Posts: 2,585

    Oh believe me, we killers have been nerfed quite a bit since release. have a look


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