Doesn't matter good or bad it's just the killer has 0 counter play and makes gameplay unfun. Even the best killer has counter play... Stealth & LoS. Legion in the right hands with their best add-ons and good perks can flip the board and turn into the most broken killer in the game.
That's all what you have to say?, correct me?.. im spanish so my english it's not that good Did you run out of arguments and now you turn to stupid things?
No, I'm just not used to argue with 12 year-olds whose only argument is "ur bad", as you poetically said.
Instead of arguing with you, lowering myself to your level and risking the fact that you might beat me with your experience, I've decided to correct your poor English, so MAYBE, just MAYBE you can learn something.
So as opposed to continuing the discussion based on the topic, you felt the need to be an elitist [BAD WORD] about his spelling, and then when explained that it's not his native tongue, call him a 12 year old?
Grammar aside, Arroz is just making threads to bait people into arguing but funny how powerbats only say I do it. When it is survivor sided it is okay I guess lol.
Pallet looping is an exploit, as it shares several features with other exploits.
The survivors' collision is smaller than the killers', so survivors can turn around corners faster and make sharper turns. This causes the killers' faster movement speed to become less relevant, and it only gets worse when you take into account that survivors (the most experienced ones at least) literally hug walls and debris in general, and the killer, because of their 1st person POV, can't do the same.
Survivors are not passively just using pallet looping because it is there, they caused it to exist in the first place* and they have not practised any playstyle that doesn't crutch with pallet loops in two years.
*at one point, in the early days of Dead by daylight, survivors started to use pallets to farm and grief the killer rather than escape chases. Killers complained, got told to "just adapt", and we did. We started playing the hokey-cokey at pallets, when survivors were about to drop them. Long story short, the survivor dropped the pallet, missed the stun, and the chase continued. The situation worsened when a bug that caused stuns to award max boldness points was introduced. Some survivors would even disconnect after missing a stun, they were so desperate for the points, lol. Anyway, at that point killers started lunging mid cokey to get hits in and cut the BS short. Survivors went ballistic and drowned the forums in over eight thousand threads about "unfair" hits through pallet drops. So, patch 1.1.1 dropped and brought several buffs to pallets with it, the most noticeable one being the so-called "pallet vacuum". But there were also a set of unlisted changes that included modifications to both the range and time-window for a pallet stun, and also a reduction in the survivors' collision box.
Loads up game. Plays Legion. Doesn't use power. 2 kills despite double DS, everyone 3 hooked, or on death hook. "[BAD WORD] Legion." 9 Deviousness cuz Adren healing. Fractured Memeshed, and still dying to me walking around. Told them I didn't use addons, didn't moonwalk, nothing. Was told it didn't matter cuz I could just moonwalk and cheese and that makes him op.
Correcting others grammar is a form of ad hominem. It is not a counterargument and just portrays that you cannot think of a defence.
I'm assuming you only know 1 language, and you're not even a literary expert in it. Do you write books? Are you a renowned author?
The average person in this world speaks more than one language. Do you know the time, skill, and effort it takes to do this? @Arroz speaks Spanish AND English, maybe even something else. What do you speak? Just English? And you have the audacity to say he can't speak properly? The ignorance here is incredible. You literally cannot complain about his grammar when he knows more about language than you. This is not an opinion but a simple fact.
Correcting grammar is not a form of ad hominem, FFS. Ad hominem is about attacking the person instead of the argument. RSB simply chose to step down from the argument. There's a big difference.
English is an extremely easy language to pick up, so don't make it look like it's a big deal. Oh, and it's not RSB's native language either, so your ad hominem rings hollow (well, more so than a generic ad hominem).
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Doesn't matter good or bad it's just the killer has 0 counter play and makes gameplay unfun. Even the best killer has counter play... Stealth & LoS. Legion in the right hands with their best add-ons and good perks can flip the board and turn into the most broken killer in the game.
I'm getting sick of it. @artist and @Orion are really going at it in other threads. They feel strongly about their side, to say the least. .-.
x2 LOL
How it is a exploit? maybe your so bad..
Just btw, almost ANY killer with the right addons and perks can make it a nightmare.
Not just legion.
Wasnt legion supposed to come out and be the "absolute worst, most useless trash killer"?
What's all this fuss about now...
@RSB if pallet looping was an exploit then they’d be reworking it, or at least addressing it.
I wish people could look at it from both sides a little bit more.
They addressed it by literally calling it an exploit, but survivors complained so much they went back on their word.
Quick and Quiet for Survivor
Spies from the shadows for Killers
you're*
how is it an exploit*
We cycle through the daily complaints. It isn't too surprising.
NOED, Legion, Adrenaline, etc.
That's all what you have to say?, correct me?.. im spanish so my english it's not that good Did you run out of arguments and now you turn to stupid things?
No, I'm just not used to argue with 12 year-olds whose only argument is "ur bad", as you poetically said.
Instead of arguing with you, lowering myself to your level and risking the fact that you might beat me with your experience, I've decided to correct your poor English, so MAYBE, just MAYBE you can learn something.
PS. English isn't my native language as well.
So as opposed to continuing the discussion based on the topic, you felt the need to be an elitist [BAD WORD] about his spelling, and then when explained that it's not his native tongue, call him a 12 year old?
Grow tf up.
Correct.
PS. His "arguments" made him look like a kid, which he probably is, not poor English.
Grammar aside, Arroz is just making threads to bait people into arguing but funny how powerbats only say I do it. When it is survivor sided it is okay I guess lol.
'Cause the first mentioned guy is a 30 year old Arroz, literally.
Maybe they're father and son, I don't know.
So as opposed to not being a dick, and go back to the topic, you assume hes now LYING also. I'm out. You're a [BAD WORD] brick wall of elitism.
Well, you're probably just an [BAD WORD], not poor comprehension.
well yeah. I'm with u on that. just want it be fixed asap so it can stop being abused
Lying? Are you allright?
Are you having a meltdown?
Pallet looping is an exploit, as it shares several features with other exploits.
The survivors' collision is smaller than the killers', so survivors can turn around corners faster and make sharper turns. This causes the killers' faster movement speed to become less relevant, and it only gets worse when you take into account that survivors (the most experienced ones at least) literally hug walls and debris in general, and the killer, because of their 1st person POV, can't do the same.
Survivors are not passively just using pallet looping because it is there, they caused it to exist in the first place* and they have not practised any playstyle that doesn't crutch with pallet loops in two years.
*at one point, in the early days of Dead by daylight, survivors started to use pallets to farm and grief the killer rather than escape chases. Killers complained, got told to "just adapt", and we did. We started playing the hokey-cokey at pallets, when survivors were about to drop them. Long story short, the survivor dropped the pallet, missed the stun, and the chase continued. The situation worsened when a bug that caused stuns to award max boldness points was introduced. Some survivors would even disconnect after missing a stun, they were so desperate for the points, lol. Anyway, at that point killers started lunging mid cokey to get hits in and cut the BS short. Survivors went ballistic and drowned the forums in over eight thousand threads about "unfair" hits through pallet drops. So, patch 1.1.1 dropped and brought several buffs to pallets with it, the most noticeable one being the so-called "pallet vacuum". But there were also a set of unlisted changes that included modifications to both the range and time-window for a pallet stun, and also a reduction in the survivors' collision box.
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I dont give a [BAD WORD] about legion
They're annoying but no more annoying than every other killer so who cares
Besides that they're terrible at getting kills so it's more of a problem of legion being broken and not OP
There are adrenaline threads in between them 😁
Loads up game. Plays Legion. Doesn't use power. 2 kills despite double DS, everyone 3 hooked, or on death hook. "[BAD WORD] Legion." 9 Deviousness cuz Adren healing. Fractured Memeshed, and still dying to me walking around. Told them I didn't use addons, didn't moonwalk, nothing. Was told it didn't matter cuz I could just moonwalk and cheese and that makes him op.
Yup. Legion is a monster and should be stopped!
Holy [BAD WORD] I love you. Also, vacuums were also introduced as the devs, "Couldn't figure out how to stop players from getting trapped in pallets."
People complain about what they dislike.
The 2 things are very very clear.
Yeah, that's how it is.
- [BAD WORD] camper dumb idiot tunneler [BAD WORD] [BAD WORD] kys11!!1! QQ
- But I wasn't camping and tunneling!
- But you could!
@RSB
Hey buddy, just stop.
Correcting others grammar is a form of ad hominem. It is not a counterargument and just portrays that you cannot think of a defence.
I'm assuming you only know 1 language, and you're not even a literary expert in it. Do you write books? Are you a renowned author?
The average person in this world speaks more than one language. Do you know the time, skill, and effort it takes to do this? @Arroz speaks Spanish AND English, maybe even something else. What do you speak? Just English? And you have the audacity to say he can't speak properly? The ignorance here is incredible. You literally cannot complain about his grammar when he knows more about language than you. This is not an opinion but a simple fact.
Correcting grammar is not a form of ad hominem, FFS. Ad hominem is about attacking the person instead of the argument. RSB simply chose to step down from the argument. There's a big difference.
English is an extremely easy language to pick up, so don't make it look like it's a big deal. Oh, and it's not RSB's native language either, so your ad hominem rings hollow (well, more so than a generic ad hominem).