MoM isn’t annoying as killer at all. It’s just one extra hit.. ONE!! Also you can see the survivors aura after.. And people complain about it? why is it that everyone wants an easier game on both sides. It’s like everyone is trying so hard to win instead of having fun.
They’re allowed to make balance changes, not cosmetic based changes. They designed the balance of the game, they own that, the created their own version. Pretty sure license owns the character and associated voice lines, and nothing gameplay related unless it’s a weapon with very specific properties that need to be respected.
Freddy or plague are examples enough.
By the way, infinites were part of the game for quite some time
Can you name a single survivor perk that got instantly nerfed after release? Im curious =)
So what you're saying is that killer nerfs still happen instantly yet Clown went on for awhile and it's been almost 4 months for Legions exploit. That's not counting his secondary exploit that's also being abused.
Also that logical fallacy, Freddy wasn't nerfed due to exploiting and Plagues not been nerfed either for exploits.
Lets see can you come up with any more troll attempts that won't fail, NOPE.
Anyone who counters the fact MoM is okay because "it's just one extra hit" doesn't understand how powerful one extra hit can be.
About as outrageous and productive of an argument as if I were to say "Mori is just one less hook state". Or "Insta heals are just an extra hit" or "Old BNPs were just one less gen".
It's up to four extra hits if you're playing a killer that cannot counter, and you can't forget they still get the injury speed boost for this. It's not "just an extra hit", but an extra hit that gives them the speed boost and additional distance from it.
I main Pig, and what the [BAD WORD] am I supposed to do to counter it besides load up perks into a suboptimal build?
Oh, right: camp. Because that's what survivors want killers to really do...
@SmokePotion you must not play survivor against good killers who can end chases quickly. Btw before rank reset I was purple rank killer.
You should play spirit so you can end chases quickly or nurse then mom won’t be problematic or use legion.
Let's see Pig's ambush doesn't give survivors a MOM stack so no you don't need to camp, any ability used to land a hit doesn't proc MOM. I had a game against a red rank Pig the other day. She destroyed 2 survivors using MOM running the regular Pig build and never camped.
I hate to tell you this, but not every chase starts with a dash attack.
No it doesn't but the smart piggies chase then go ambush again near loop spots and even if you don't. It means they'd have to have been downed a 2x times already if you played it right.
By the time it procs you've probably already gotten an RBT on them to slow the game down and running MYC you can have even more ways.
MoM doesn't reset when hooked. I don't know why you think that.
Secondly, Dead Hard can be played around by all killers. MoM cannot, and even then, successfully using Dead Hard has far less impact than MoM does and actually requires interaction by the survivor to use, rather than just it being completely passive, which MoM is.
Thirdly, getting a couple extra hits to activate the perk is seriously not very difficult. The biggest issue with MoM is that it works so well with stacking it with other second chance perks already. The more "resets" you have, the easier it is to pull off and the more powerful it is as a result. The only reason people are having difficulty with it activating it in the first place is because of the fact it's bugged and not counting empowered basic attacks.
legion is the weakest killer in the game so idk why you'd use him as an example
I only mention him due to the 2 exploits and the fact it's been over 4 months and not been addressed. The Clown reload exploit was fixed comparatively quickly but with Legion and his 2 exploits it's not that simple.
Now as far as being the weakest he's like Freddy in the respect that those that know how to get the most out of him can wreck with him. That's also without using either exploit nor using Franks.
There's one really good Legion players that never uses Deep Wounds and only uses Frenzy for the gap closing. He'll only M1 you the entire time and still 4k most of the time he's just that good.
He's also a beast on Bubba, Nurse, Billy, Hag etc.
That's what survivors said about old DS. Wonder how that panned--
Again, the problem with MoM isn't whether it's OP or not. The problem is that it's just simply bad game design for the very same reason why old DS was reworked rather than just nerfed -- because it has no counterplay for most of the character list on the killer side.
And no, just 'hit them again' is not 'playing around' the perk. How activating the perk and letting it get its full effect off is considered 'playing around' to you is an enigma to me, but that's not what the term 'play around' implies and is about as useful advice as telling someone to 'just mend' against bugged Legions when mending starts spanning an entire 5 minutes or more to perform.
Full effect also including seeing their aura or having them in one down all game.
But everyone ignores that because SOME people MIGHT pair it with 3 other perks in a 4 man group (<9% of lobbies) and cause an issue. We could do that with a handful of combinations.
Its not as prevalent of an issue as everyone wants it to be.
Head On was a big stink until people had a new perk to argue about/found Head On wasnt as perfect as they thought.
Eventually well have another perk come out and people wont care about MoM, but the new OP perk that let's you heal others twice as fast if you're injured, because you could mix it with empathy and botany knowledge and have super charged medkits.
They'll probably just increase the hits required for activation.
if you’re being 4ked by someone m1ing you at 110 it’s not the killer that’s good it’s the survivors that are very, very bad
remain visible within 14 meters until in dying state again. the struggle is real.
seriously...y'all about silly.
As a Survivor I find it meh, and as a Killer a meh. Oh no, I have to hit a guy again! Flip Flop is actually the more dangerous perk I think! I've esacped twice now thanks to a Killer slugging me, only for me to crawl away, recover, they find me and pick me up, and I'm gone!
Flip Flop OP, plz nerf
No you're missing the point he uses Frenzy as a Gap closer and cancels it he's a master at mind gaming loops and will get you on any killer. I've seen him destroy people I know are looping masters with ease.
what’s his name then?
I'll have to look and see if I've got him on video still haven't faced them in quite some time, been 1 normal and rest exploiters lately. I believe they only play really late at night or very early am.
Aus/NZ/Japan/China or Guam area is where they're connecting from.
im in aus, play plenty of red rank survivor, and have yet to meet this mythical figure
Freddy has left the chat
Beleive what you want I'm also on PC and I've not seen him on since the emblem changes hit. If I do face him he's recognizable like facing Battleguy, you just know it's him.
*Low rank Pigs.
Good luck in reds trying to Ambush everybody mid-game if the map isn't Lery's.
With pig at most loops you’ll either force them to abandon the loop or you’ll hit them. She is awesome at loops.
MoM<DH. period. Are you that scared of DH? Yes DH takes some skill to use it, MoM doesn't, but MoM is a one time per match DH. It doesn't work with insta downs, it has a prerequisite, it has a negative effect afterward. It also only works once a match, IF it is prepped. DH can be used every chase, and if you're good and killer is bad, multiple times a chase. really. MoM<DH. And Noone is complaining about DH. It's honestly fine how it is, and I don't run either MoM or DH!
A real survivor will run the moment they see what you're doing, and Ambush won't cover that much distance; you just set yourself even further back when this happens.