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Survey: "The pig changes" u are agree or disagree? (ptb)



  • NuclearBurritoNuclearBurrito Member Posts: 6,787


  • powerbatspowerbats Member Posts: 7,068

    True, but if you look a lot of the complaining is coming from people that planned to play ehr to exploit her RBTs. These were people that said she was trash and would never play her or she was low tier etc.

    The changes aren't permanent yet and stuff will likely get changed but the knee jerk reactions and histrionics from those that didn't like her before is hilarious.

  • powerbatspowerbats Member Posts: 7,068

    Oh you mean where I refute you with facts and logic like always, yeah this won't take long.

  • Bravo0413Bravo0413 Member Posts: 3,504

    No..... highly unnecessary.... how RNG is in this game the traps are already little threat..... the devs said it themselves that they are meant to waste time and they dont even do that!.... this goes against lore to the character! And the saw series... its WRONG!

  • DarkskiesDarkskies Member Posts: 1,052

    I'm a pig main so I don't get your attack on this heart warming thread @powerbats it's highly rude I'm sure people that said no also main pig but most probably understand how unjust this is and love pig regardless 🐖

  • twistedmonkeytwistedmonkey Member, Trusted Posts: 4,216

    I dont agree with the trap stopping in the terror radious it was fine how it was imo.

    The trap after the egc started now that's a harder one, while it was how it was designed originally things have changed with the timer so to give one killer something no other one does specifically at end game seems wrong.

    Maybe if trapped you get a longer time or the killer can't close the hatch on you. Something to make it possible to escape and kill as it should never be guaranteed.l for either side.

  • doitagain_doitagain_ Member Posts: 597

    The pig changes are awful & I think the endgame collapse overall made it easier for survivors. You can now open the exit gates in 15 sec or even have the killer open them for you and walk you out. The lava effects make tracking scratch marks difficult as well. Oh and the free open hatch for the last survivor even if no gens were done is BS and encourages slugging even more.

  • pandorayrpandorayr Member Posts: 516

    The problem it's the same as always Devs change some mechanics in game from a killer (legion) but last destroy the power to another killer (Pig) generating new problems

    In my country this is called "CHAPUZA"

    3 years with updates and the game is far from balanced, later don't cry if nobody wants to play killer, for now are few killers in this game, we'll see what happens in the future.

  • Mc_HartyMc_Harty Member Posts: 3,294
    edited April 2019

    I think mostly everyone who played Pig, at least once, will agree that these changes are extreme without any buffs to compensate. Crouching faster is nice and all but it's not enough for her to lose her massive benefit.

    So that's a 'No' for me..

  • powerbatspowerbats Member Posts: 7,068

    there's a difference between heartwarming like this picture of a 1 year old Prince Louis

    and a thread of people complaining about something.

    My point is that quite a few people that don't play her or had only planned on playing her so they could exploit EGC are posting.

    With the changes to EDC RBT's couldn't be left alone and considering the changes it can't stay the way it is.

  • Mc_HartyMc_Harty Member Posts: 3,294

    @powerbats I understand she might needed to be changed for EGC, but the fact remains she lost a massive benefit with nothing to compensate for it.

  • SentrySentry Member Posts: 124
    edited April 2019


    I understand your point, but its better to have an over power and slowly tweak the killer. Onethis would force devs to show they are fix killers while also show the community they care. Im agrue a lot because im a pig main. I think thepig mains have an legitmate reason to be mad.

  • Dwight_ConfusionDwight_Confusion Member Posts: 1,650


    The Pig changes are not done right. It's a sugar coat effort for survivors. Also, Remember Me getting nerfed is a joke. big time.

  • powerbatspowerbats Member Posts: 7,068

    The issue with leaving her as is would be she'd be Legion on steroids end game and you'd have a dc epidemic or Pig's simply exploiting it like currently. By doing this they can test it out and see what they need to do to buff her up some.

    One of the issues is that so many Pig players try and use her RBT'S to secure kills, that's not what they're their for. You're using them to slow the game down to help you secure kills not cheese them to ensure a kill.

    It's never really been addressed since so few Pig do it there wasn't a lot of need to address it but with the EGC it had to be addressed same as Legions exploiting the mechanics did.

    Also don't forget that just as with Spirit she'll probably get some qol buffs to help her out some without making her brokenly op. But in order to do that they need data and people need to play her for that to happen.

  • SentrySentry Member Posts: 124
    edited April 2019

    Im still going to play her, if it goes live because of dedication but your asking for people have fun with a now low tier kill . Also the spirit was still okay before she got the buffs. The pig has lost a whole playstyle no more end game and straetgy there is a huge difference.

  • DarkskiesDarkskies Member Posts: 1,052

    You seem to be overlooking that the pig has needed quality of life changes for a while and got one change with a nurf with TR

    Unlike the spirit her power hinders her pressure I'm talking crouching and dashing yeah it's OK at some pallets but to be crouching all the time is not good as it doesn't apply map pressure.

    Only pressure she has is her traps which ain't strong you can normally get those sucker off at the second box unless your an very unlucky person but that's not the traps that's rng for you. But now you got that nice bonus if your TR which is much bigger due to those nice nurfs a while back traps do nothing so people can abuse that.... just like they abuse the sound issues that spirit has currently.

    If they never changed spirit then added extra nurfs down the line yould appericate people supporting and understanding you.

    Regardless if they main her or not.

    We need to be better to each other.


  • SentrySentry Member Posts: 124

    I agree i just want her back in mid tier

  • DarkskiesDarkskies Member Posts: 1,052

    Yeah I just want her as she was to 💖 yeah if she's being abused us pig mains will glady help ideas to help stop this because we love her!! hard nurfs are not a solution here. As we know they never listen to ptb feedback and change much of anything that impacts much


  • SentrySentry Member Posts: 124

    Dont be dont full unless they just ignore question tommorow about the pig.

  • The_BogeymanThe_Bogeyman Member Posts: 269
    edited April 2019

    @pandorayr Lulz 7-8 posts ain't the whole community. Unless you got votes that are at least high in the triple digits you ain't talking any meaty numbers here.

  • Auron471Auron471 Member Posts: 1,301

    I don’t see why the trap timers stop while in her terror radius. It’s not like a moonwalking pig was ever a problem.

    As as for the pig in the EGC, I feel that survivors with activated traps on thier has heads should just count as hooked survivors and thus slow the timer down.

  • NicholasNicholas Member Posts: 1,146

    Not sure if I agree, but if the choice is allow them to activate upon EGC or not? Then yes, I agree with the changes to her.

  • bendermacbendermac Member Posts: 772

    Can‘t test myself, but the Piggy changes for EGC are BS. Keep Piggy as is. Also remove free Hatch-Escape whith active RBT. SV have to work for their freedom and not handed to them.

  • NoShinyPonyNoShinyPony Member Posts: 4,570

    Absolutely not.

    I don't think any changes were necessary. It always used to be difficult to survive when you got a RBT after the exit gates have been powered.

    If the devs think they must change something, they could slow the EGC timer, like it happens for downed and hooked survivors. That would still be okay.

    Also the RBT timer stopping in terror radius is unnecessary. In all my playtime I've never come across a moonwalking Pig.

  • StrancolStrancol Member Posts: 158


  • pandorayrpandorayr Member Posts: 516

    when developers try to fix a killer they destroy another killer with unnecessary changes.

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