If you're tunneling and camping, but then turn around and complain about getting "gen rushed" you know why you got "gen rushed". That's all I gotta say.
So basically it's ok to waste 4 minutes of a survivors if a killer chooses to. Being able to waste a killer or survivors time like that definitely needs something done about it.
We can argue about it forever. I hate being camped and tunneled and hate when it happens to my team because they suicide or DC. That said, it's up to BHVR to discourage this kind of play. They gave the killer less points if they camp, does anyone ever notice this? Sure hasn't discouraged the behavior.
Indeed, the second sentence is my opinion. I can only surmise the first is yours, since I didn't say anything that could even remotely be interpreted as what you wrote there.
Yes, I said that to correct the bizarre claim that it could be done for hours. No more, no less.
Since the opinion in the first sentence of your previous comment didn't come from me, and I'm assuming you didn't click "Quote" on the wrong comment or you would've admitted it by now, the opinion can only be yours.
Mori’s are easily countered by the most toxic build in the game, which is the sabo build. There is nothing in this game that is more toxic than a swf group playing sabo at red ranks. Unless they take 4x toolboxes and telegraph what they are doing in the lobby there is literally no counter play. You can’t hook them, you can’t slug them, and if you camp them they gen rush you.
I've seen enough responses from you to other users to know how you feel towards survivors so yes I do believe you are ok with wasting a survivors time for 4 minutes.
I think it's slightly unpleasant, but not as big an issue as you make it seem. I've had to deal with longer unskippable credits that render my computer unusable for their duration, since if the game is out of focus, the credits won't roll.
You can believe what you want, but the truth doesn't depend on what you believe. I said nothing that you pretended I said, that is the truth. And despite what you or anyone else might believe, the truth is that I practice what I preach. A few examples:
Slugged with no hope of survival? AFK.
Penultimate survivor and got hooked? Suicide once the last guy has found the hatch.
Last survivor and got caught? Don't wiggle, just let myself be hooked.
Problems with stealth killers? Use Premonition (currently switched with Alert).
Being camped? Make sure to waste as much of the killer's time as possible.
I'm a Survivor who doesn't use DS, doesn't abuse infinites, doesn't use insta-heals and isn't toxic to the Killer. Do you think it's fun to play like that against a douche Killer that camps and tunnels you? No, it's not, and I don't want to play with DS / Insta-heals just so I can have more chances. I don't want to play like that because I consider it scummy and unfun. The only time I would consider going SoloQ is only with DS and a purple insta-heal in my hand because of Killers like that.
The same could be applied to Killers. Killers who don't tunnel or camp are met with Survivors that are incredibly toxic. And those Killers don't want to tunnel or camp because they find it scummy and unfun aswell. But in the end, they are forced to.
The killers in DBD are essentially playing a single player game. It's not much different than how nobody cares if they're being "fair" to the zombies in resident evil or if the hollows in dark souls are having fun. The goal is to be the only person moving at the end of the game, I don't take it personally.
If they go out of their way to tease and irritate me as if I'm not an NPC, then it's kinda sad. But they've probably just had a streak of crappy games and needed to vent, so still nothing personal.
Camping, tunneling, slugging, basement builds, BBQ, Ruin, mori spam, noed are all fair just as keys, adrenaline, instaheals, swf, d-strike, dead hard, borrowed time, tool boxes, stuns, flashlights, pallets, looping with many more on both sides. These are the game mechanics. They are fun, the fear of being the one abused and stomped each game, it's what causes the thrill. Y'all's "balance" is not not engaging in terms of gameplay, sorry.
This is a game where there are 4 survivors against a killer. These characters are controlled by people. Would this be an authentic horror experience if people weren't allowed to play like people?
Yea it is only slightly unpleasant because one can go get a drink get some snacks put something in the microwave idk just leave the computer for 4 minutes and you'll be ok.
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You can't mori spam for longer than 4 minutes. Before, the bleed-out timer didn't progress, but now it does.
I didn't know this. If this is true, then the Killer is just wasting his own time in that case.
Why do you think such a thing is not bannable? When I get slugged with no hope of escape, I just go AFK.
Slugging isn't the problem.
The problem was that Mori spamming made it near infinite and forced a DC. If this is no longer the case, then mori spamming is just a worse slugging.
Mori spamming isn't possible without slugging, so I just grouped the two together. I go AFK in either case.
Before mori spamming paused the timer which is why I categorized it as hostage.
It hasn't done that for quite some time now.
It was changed in patch 1.3.0, on December 6th, 2016. So roughly two and a half years ago.
Damn that one went over my head 😭😭
If you're tunneling and camping, but then turn around and complain about getting "gen rushed" you know why you got "gen rushed". That's all I gotta say.
So basically it's ok to waste 4 minutes of a survivors if a killer chooses to. Being able to waste a killer or survivors time like that definitely needs something done about it.
We can argue about it forever. I hate being camped and tunneled and hate when it happens to my team because they suicide or DC. That said, it's up to BHVR to discourage this kind of play. They gave the killer less points if they camp, does anyone ever notice this? Sure hasn't discouraged the behavior.
So being cheap is fair? ROFLCOPTER
Indeed, the second sentence is my opinion. I can only surmise the first is yours, since I didn't say anything that could even remotely be interpreted as what you wrote there.
You said it's possible to mori spam a survivor for 4 minutes and considering how toxic players like to act that can easily happen.
Yes, I said that to correct the bizarre claim that it could be done for hours. No more, no less.
Since the opinion in the first sentence of your previous comment didn't come from me, and I'm assuming you didn't click "Quote" on the wrong comment or you would've admitted it by now, the opinion can only be yours.
The same can happen without a Mori. All the Killer needs to do is just stand over and camp the downed guy
Mori’s are easily countered by the most toxic build in the game, which is the sabo build. There is nothing in this game that is more toxic than a swf group playing sabo at red ranks. Unless they take 4x toolboxes and telegraph what they are doing in the lobby there is literally no counter play. You can’t hook them, you can’t slug them, and if you camp them they gen rush you.
I've seen enough responses from you to other users to know how you feel towards survivors so yes I do believe you are ok with wasting a survivors time for 4 minutes.
@Orion waste 4 minutes:
We can also bring. Dying Light, Corrupted Intervention, Pop Goes the Weasel, and Thrilling Tremors.
I think it's slightly unpleasant, but not as big an issue as you make it seem. I've had to deal with longer unskippable credits that render my computer unusable for their duration, since if the game is out of focus, the credits won't roll.
You can believe what you want, but the truth doesn't depend on what you believe. I said nothing that you pretended I said, that is the truth. And despite what you or anyone else might believe, the truth is that I practice what I preach. A few examples:
Slugged with no hope of survival? AFK.
Penultimate survivor and got hooked? Suicide once the last guy has found the hatch.
Last survivor and got caught? Don't wiggle, just let myself be hooked.
Problems with stealth killers? Use Premonition (currently switched with Alert).
Being camped? Make sure to waste as much of the killer's time as possible.
Fair? Maybe. Fun? No. Not at all.
Stuff like this makes the game worse.
I'm a Survivor who doesn't use DS, doesn't abuse infinites, doesn't use insta-heals and isn't toxic to the Killer. Do you think it's fun to play like that against a douche Killer that camps and tunnels you? No, it's not, and I don't want to play with DS / Insta-heals just so I can have more chances. I don't want to play like that because I consider it scummy and unfun. The only time I would consider going SoloQ is only with DS and a purple insta-heal in my hand because of Killers like that.
The same could be applied to Killers. Killers who don't tunnel or camp are met with Survivors that are incredibly toxic. And those Killers don't want to tunnel or camp because they find it scummy and unfun aswell. But in the end, they are forced to.
Sorry bud but I don't use DS or instaheals either and I have 0 issues with camping or tunneling.
The killers in DBD are essentially playing a single player game. It's not much different than how nobody cares if they're being "fair" to the zombies in resident evil or if the hollows in dark souls are having fun. The goal is to be the only person moving at the end of the game, I don't take it personally.
If they go out of their way to tease and irritate me as if I'm not an NPC, then it's kinda sad. But they've probably just had a streak of crappy games and needed to vent, so still nothing personal.
As I said, shouldn't be reportable, shouldn't be bannable, shouldn't be encouraged or allowed by game design either,
you think getting mori spammed for 4 minutes is "slightly" unpleasant?
Camping, tunneling, slugging, basement builds, BBQ, Ruin, mori spam, noed are all fair just as keys, adrenaline, instaheals, swf, d-strike, dead hard, borrowed time, tool boxes, stuns, flashlights, pallets, looping with many more on both sides. These are the game mechanics. They are fun, the fear of being the one abused and stomped each game, it's what causes the thrill. Y'all's "balance" is not not engaging in terms of gameplay, sorry.
This is a game where there are 4 survivors against a killer. These characters are controlled by people. Would this be an authentic horror experience if people weren't allowed to play like people?
I agree but, I don't ever really camp until end game because its the only leverage you got.
Yea it is only slightly unpleasant because one can go get a drink get some snacks put something in the microwave idk just leave the computer for 4 minutes and you'll be ok.
They aren't really fine or fair, but this game is meant for fun, so do what you want, long as you aren't trying too ruin someones fun by being toxic.