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Are the legion the most evil?



  • Shad03Shad03 Member Posts: 3,732

    @TheHourMan said:
    It depends on how you define "evil." 

    Is it evil to kill for pleasure? Or is it insanity?

    My view of evil is that it is the exact reverse of unconditional love. Evil is selfless. Where the one committing the evil acts get nothing out of it, but they do it purely out of the intent to inflict misery on someone else, even at the cost of making themself miserable in the process. Self sacrifice in order to cause pain on someone else, without getting any satisfaction or pleasure in it yourself. 

    That being said: who is the most evil killer? I would argue there are multiple candidates. Spirit, Nurse, Micheal. These three don't seem to take any pleasure in killing. They do it purely out of compulsion or malice. They harm others simply for the sake of causing harm to others. Like a force of nature. Indiscriminate and driven by cold, uncaring processes.

    Spirit is a vengeful soul who kills because she was promised that she would get her vengeance. Nurse lost her mind and is forced to kill for the Entity. Michael is evil incarnate, he kills because that is all he knows what to do. Out of the three of them, the Spirit and Nurse are probably the less evil.

    The two most evil in the game would be The Shape and The clown. The Clown relishes in killing, and was even rewarded in being able to keep his horse in the Fog.

  • SporkSpork Member Posts: 122

    Who's to say the Entity doesn't torture people mentally. It could also threaten, bribe, or trick them into submission.

  • EvelineEveline Member Posts: 2,340
    I find Myers most "evil". 

    @Jackard said:
    Other than the clown that got rewarded with Maurice the horse, are the legion the most evil killers in the game? All other killers have visible torture to convince them to work for the entity (excluding licensed killers) and yet none of the legion seem to have this.

    NOOOOOO its definitely Michael or the Clown!!

  • OMagic_ManOOMagic_ManO Member Posts: 3,278

    @PigNRun said:

    @Justicar said:
    The's Shape's ability is literally called Evil Within.

    Yet its not called "The Most Evil Within". Feels more like... Lesser Evil Within.

    Lesser Evil Within at EW1, EW3 Is "The Most Evil Within", Fragrant tuft of hair is "Always the Most Evil Within".

  • CorianderCoriander Member Posts: 1,069

    The Legion Quartet were more hooligans than anything else. All they wanted was to escape their little town. One guy died by accident (sorta) so now they became killers in the Entity's Realm. Perhaps the Entity saw that they could be used, and took them.

  • BlackMercuryBlackMercury Member Posts: 172

    Not a chance. Legion fell into it, they'd only killed one person before being taken, and it was mostly out of panic.

    Doctor and Clown are probably the most evil original characters. Clown is sick to the core, that's just who he is.

    Doctor is obviously completely without empathy, seeing people as nothing more than test subjects, but he's also been shown to be sadistic, giggling to himself while he tortures people. His addons also have a lot of hidden lore in them that describe how much utter contempt he has. The only way in which he might be sympathetic is that he's clearly suffering in his own madness, even going so far as to put himself in a coma with his own power. But the devs have clarified, the equptment that the Doctor wears, was not put on him by the Entity. Based on the descriptions of various cosmetics, it's likely the Doctor put them on himself. The Entity has done nothing to him but provide him with the means and subjects to continue his experiments, and possibly awakened a madness already inside him.

    Even Evan Macmillian was a mass-murderer before he was taken. You could say it may have been entity influence that drove him to kill in the first place, but the same could go for Legion.

    I would put Legion between Wraith and Hillbilly on the Evil scale, it's not that they ever wanted to kill, it's just what they do now. In their own words: "There's no getting out of this now, we're too good at it."

  • BlackMercuryBlackMercury Member Posts: 172
    edited April 2019

    He's refereed to as Joe occasionally in the Bio, implying he goes by both names.

    I'd like to play him, but I can't get over how stupid his pants look sadly.

    Also please help I don't know how to quote properly.

  • Shad03Shad03 Member Posts: 3,732


    Sigh, how many times do I have to do this?

  • DeadArsenalDeadArsenal Member Posts: 221
    edited April 2019

    OP's avatar is Freddy Krueger: Dream demon, mass murderer, and child molestor. I would consider shanking a janitor rather less evil than that.

  • VADtoysVADtoys Member Posts: 2

    Where do you get specifics like Wraith being choked on mud and stuff? I love the lore for this game but it's all so incredibly hard to find.

    Also for those saying Huntress kills just to kill, I don't think so. Anna is just territorial. The Entity probably just gave her a calm place and told her to keep people out.

  • VolfawottVolfawott Member Posts: 3,876
    If we're ranking this on evil.

    I'm going to move Micheal and Freddy to one side and wrap them up quickly because they're pretty much no brainers their stories don't hide the fact that they are evil.

    Well I would put Freddy above Michael sorry for the fact that he's a pedo so not only does he enjoyed it killing but he does get some sexual pleasure from the stuff he does the kids.

    As for Michael just seems to kill for the sake of being a killer however Michael does  seem to have some restraint that matter as he has been shown to not kill certain people.

    Next is probably Clown.
    Probably the entity's favourite. I would have him a psychopath rather than the sociopath as he doesn't seem to have an adverse amount of childhood trauma.

    He is definitely sadistic doesn't seem to have any qualms with kill even laughing when he hurts people. 

    Next up Herman "the doctor" Carter.
    Well he is also very sadistic and like clown I don't think he takes pleasure in killing people he seems to be more entertained by the act of torture but just so happens to go overboard.

    He's one of the killers who didn't immediately go along with The Entity, well I personally feel like it was more because he didn't care about the entity's game and cared more about his experiments until The Entity forced him to comply than through any compassion for survivors.
    Well I still consider him an evil bastard I don't think he's very murderous.

    Evan MacMillan.
    I debated on whether I should put him above the doctor as I said for the most part Herman isn't really murderous.

    However from Evan's backstory it seems more like his instance of Killing was just him snapping rather than him going overboard on torture.

    Before snapping he was just a massive ######### and he probably got that from his father and as I said before he snapped so I could somewhat excuse him still a cold-hearted bastard but a lot less sadistic and malicious than Herman despite the fact that he probably raked in a higher body count.

    Huntress is difficult to place on one hand she has the mental age of a child however on the other hand she hunts for sport and fun. 

    No real desire to kill outside of that. But her immense enjoyment for killing humans is definitely higher on the evil scale.

    Amanda is next up this is where we're going to start the into the hole I don't necessarily think these people are evil they just have issues that got exploited by entity.

    If anyone seen saw they would know that  Amanda has deep personal issues and is ruled by emotion.

    Her main reasoning for putting people in unwinnable traps was simply because she saw herself as someone who didn't change so for that no one else could.

    Keep in mind she was showing off as an example of John"s method working. Her relapsing into self-destructive habits basically just affirmed herself doubt. When dragged into the entities realm to cope with it she's simply perceive it perceived it as John's legacy for her.

    Legion this is going to be the most annoying so it's trying to get through this quickly.

    In general there nothing more than petty hoodlums.

    Their first and most prevalent document and kill was more out of panic and impulse rather than genuine desire to hurt people.

    Some showing hesitation or outright refusal to do it however it does seem that all of them have just adjusted and are going along the flow now

    Hag and Spirit.
    These two both made a pact of The Entity in their moment of need and desperation to gain revenge on the people who can't them.

    So I feel like they do what they do less out of a desire to kill and more out of a obligation.

    Billy due to his upbringing I can't really blame his actions he just seems to be very angry and hostile due to the conditions he was raised in.

    Bubba is very mentally stable. So it's pretty hard to blame him for his actions when in the grand scheme of things he doesn't know better

    Bubba even in the movies never seem to be generally evil more just the product of being surrounded by evil people telling him to do evil things.

    He seems to listen more out of fear than genuinely agreeing with the actions same goes for he action when stuck In The Entity's realm 

    Plague overtly and rather blindly Devoted To The Entity seeing it as a god of us killing to appease it.

    Not necessarily evil just a little narrow-minded and sheep like.

    Wraith genuinely was a good guy even though he was working for shady people who prefer just to keep its head down and just make money.

    In the end he ended up snapping and becoming killing a killer.

    Nurse another story of just snapping however she is the only killer to date to actually show any sort of compassion or empathy towards the survivors she kills.

    Not a complete monster just similar with the wraith doing what The Entity tells her but just with a little bit more compassion

  • Ember_HunterEmber_Hunter Member Posts: 1,693

    Or, NeA iS tHe MeAnEsT sUrViVoR

    Truth be told, Amanda, Bubba, Wraith, Nurse, and Hag MIGHT be least evil killers?

    Definitely Bubba, since he was forced by his deranged family to kill for them, and even went through guilt trips for his family AND for his killings.

  • Saint_UkraineSaint_Ukraine Member Posts: 944


  • SmaugMyteSmaugMyte Member Posts: 10
    edited June 2019

    I personally divide the Killers in 3 groups (I'll leave the licenced killers out of it):

    The ones that made a deal with the Entity:

    These Killers are the ones that upon death in the real world made a deal with the Entity. The Spirit, the Hag and the Plague are in this category. Spirit and Hag accepted to do the Entity's bidding in exchange for vengence against her father and the cannibals that held her captive respectively. The Plague prayed the Gods to survive after being fatally infected, and the Entity responded and offered her salvation in exchange of doing it's work. The Entity most likey deceives the Plague by disguising as one of the ancient Gods she believes in.

    The ones that had to be tortured by the Entity to get them to work:

    These Killers didn't wanted to do the Entity's bidding and had to be tortured in order to be convinced. The Trapper, the Wraith and the Nurse are in this category. Everybody knows the Trapper has being tortured by just looking at his hooks and metal pieces pierced through his back and shoulders. The Devs recently stated in their latest lore-based stream that it was the Entity to choke the Nurse with a pillowcase and most likely the Wraith was tortured too since he was against killing in real life and has a great amount of bandages and scars.

    The ones that accepted to work for the Entity willingly:

    These Killers accepted willingly to kill for the Entity because they just enjoy killing. The Doctor, the Huntress, the Legion, the Clown and the Hillbilly are in this category. The Hillbilly is just a deranged individual that knows nothing but violence and killing due to his childhood. We all know the Clown and the Doctor killed a lot of people before being taken by the Entity and you can see in game how sadistic these 2 seems to be when hitting the Survivors with electricity/tonic. The Huntress is similar to the Hillbilly, as she doesn't know any better than killing after by being raised in a complete isolated envirorment. She probably has severe mental retardation as she behaves like a child in a adult body. I also think that after their first kill the Legion is completely mentally gone and all of them are now willing to keep killing anyone.

    So to reply to your question yes, I think the Legion is among the most evil ones, but they may not be the absolute most evil because "things" like the Nightmare and the Shape are into the game too. It's also confirmed that Ghostface really likes killing too and that Leatherface kills out of fear and not evilness. I honestly don't have a clear image about the Pig, but I don't consider her purely evil.

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