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Maybe Rework Nurse?



  • miaasmamiaasma Member Posts: 911

    i didn't realize pointing out that stealth doesn't work constituted throwing a tantrum

  • fluffymareepfluffymareep Member Posts: 634

    Are you talking about the bug where she sometimes ignores stuns or how people need to change up how they play against her and not pallet loop @ArecBalrin?

  • Condorloco_26Condorloco_26 Member Posts: 1,714

    They literally just posted a video where stealth works well against an experienced nurse. Did you watch it?

  • deadbyhitboxdeadbyhitbox Member Posts: 1,113

    I don't see why a killer should force you into playing a specific style such as stealth.

  • Condorloco_26Condorloco_26 Member Posts: 1,714

    Well, you've made up your mind already, even in the face of evidence.

    No point discussing any further.

  • Condorloco_26Condorloco_26 Member Posts: 1,714

    At all, man. My playstyle is based around intercepting people, injuring and letting escape, very rarely I engage in chases around stuff (especially waist high) like a robot, because I already know what happens when a killer not named Sally or Rin does that, and because I find it incredibly dumb.

    Besides, the only ones talking about nerfs are you guys, I didn't even mention nerfing anything about any role.

    PS4 queues are good for me at least, back to normal. It actually takes longer to get a lobby as survivor, so I don't know where you're going with this.

  • Condorloco_26Condorloco_26 Member Posts: 1,714

    People like you have always been asking for evidence that stealth works against her. What other evidence you want, if not a video proving exactly that?

    If not for the instantly disconnecting chump playing Kate in that game, I'd say it would have been a 1k at the most. 3 guys did 5 gens with an experienced nurse breathing on their necks all the time.

    Maybe more people should try that playstyle against her, I don't know.

    Or maybe I'm wrong and running in circles is the most exciting thing in the world.

  • Condorloco_26Condorloco_26 Member Posts: 1,714

    Regarding the videos, any videos. Yes of course, they can all be used to analyze and draw conclusions out of them, and hopefully they would all involve highly skilled players from both sides.

    I actually don't know why don't all these guys playing as a job challenge each other, that way the devs would have a more solid ground from which they can make more accurate decisions regarding high level play.

  • NuclearBurritoNuclearBurrito Member Posts: 6,807
    edited July 2019

    So that we have something to work with to compare to the current Nurse.

    You say she has all of these problems. How do you fix them? If you or someone else can't think of anything then this discussion won't go anywhere. Note how 0 progress has been made in the entire rest of this thread.

    Comparing the pro's and cons of implementing a specific change or set of changes is far more productive than something more vague.

    For example:

    Blink's no longer travel through stuff besides survivors

    Nurse is now 110% and has 3 Blinks.

  • Condorloco_26Condorloco_26 Member Posts: 1,714

    I literally answered the question, but it's ok, I'm cool with it. I never said that hiding is an amazing feat of excellence, but instead an effective way to play under certain circumstances. But, I don't even care any more, for real.

    Tell you what, how about we proceed to ignore each other from now on, since you completely disregard what I have to say and I completely disregard whatever you say, too. No one is gaining anything from this kind of pointless mess. So, farewell.

  • miaasmamiaasma Member Posts: 911
    edited July 2019

    how did i disregard what you said? all you said was "watch the video, stealth works", i did, and then i explained why it's a poor example of the point you were trying to make. like, in detail. i seriously do not understand how this disregards what you have to say. if i am misrepresenting you, then say so, but i don't think i have been

    and no, as far as i read, you didn't answer the question. i asked you why tru3's video constitutes evidence but tofu's does not. both of them made youtube videos from a specific lens regarding the nurse, and both videos have had very different receptions from people on this forum, so why is his video being definitively praised by some people but tofu's is cherry picked and bias-ridden?

    edit: apologies, i missed the post in which you did answer the question. the problem with your answer is that using both videos as "evidence" of the points they're trying to make doesn't work because both points are incompatible. tru3 is trying to show that the nurse has counterplay, whereas tofu is trying to show that she doesn't. if both videos are evidence and both are true then she both does and doesn't have counterplay, which is a paradox

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  • SluzzySluzzy Member Posts: 3,131

    i also want to point out how nebulous the "nerf nurse" point always is

    there's never any specifics, just "nerf nurse" so she doesn't have to change the survivor's playstyle, just "nerf nurse" followed by a list of reasons of how she breaks the game because they absolutely have to run in the open with no care for the killer or they have no fun

    it is so, so stifling to a balance discussion to have people constantly contributing the idea that the killer is not supposed to be strong, redirecting the dialogue from "how do we maintain a viable killer" to "how to make nurse into a loopable killer like all the rest"

  • SluzzySluzzy Member Posts: 3,131

    Survivors have discord, insta-heals, red and purple keys, stackable mist, etc etc...

    And you want to talk to me about using mediocre addons?

  • SlayerSlayer Member Posts: 1,148
    edited July 2019

    Reallly? If you so concerned about counterplays read threads about nurse there are plenty of them and there are plenty of counters im not going to repeat those again and again. Nobody says that avoiding her is the only counterplay.

  • JagoJago Member Posts: 1,672

    Hiding is an interaction.

    Never played hide and seek ?

    It IS a counterplay to hide since the base movement speed doesnt allow nurse to walk around to find one.

    But as always, if you don't want to adapt and have the eternal same gameplay on every killer, welcome to bore land :)

    We'll never have something constructive with threads like this, each one defending his own version of reality.

  • FeelsVeryBadManFeelsVeryBadMan Member Posts: 197

    A Nurse without addons is fun and challenging.

    A Nurse with addons is unfair, sometimes broken and not fun whatsoever.

  • AcromioAcromio Member Posts: 1,737
    edited August 2019
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  • AcromioAcromio Member Posts: 1,737
    edited July 2019

    First learn to write correctly, then you can pontificate.

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  • SlayerSlayer Member Posts: 1,148
    edited July 2019

    The problem with these kind of games is that stronger role is much more attractive for majority.

    I mean who wants to be an underpowered meat?

    Basically the only time i play survivor is when im with friends.

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