Camping is a strategy get it
Thank you for explaining that. I'm on PS4 and I either wasn't around when this was tested or not as invested in the game so I didn't hear about it. That does sound like a nightmare.
I don't necessarily think camping or tunneling need to be punished anymore than they already are. But I do think the game could give players more incentives to killers not to do those things and to survivors to stick around when they are being camped or tunneled. Things like giving killers bonus BP for hooks if they hook different survivors rather than the same one two or three times in a row. Maybe make it so gens regress faster when a survivor is on the hook, giving them even more reason to patrol the map. Etc.
Why can't this happen in my games. I get face camped for no reason half the time and not a single gen gets done in the time I get facecamped. The survivors just sit behind a rock staring at me for 2 minutes lol
If you stand right in front of the survivor on the hook its bullshit thats what I consider face camping.
Im sorry but did everyone just forget that the penalties only happen if another survivor ISNT present within the hook area? "ITLL BE ABUSED BY SWF!" No it wont the penalties dont occur if a survivor is present
also the whole "Rewards not punishments~" Idea is dumb af considering we got rewards and killers still don't care. Im not even a killer main im a flex main I play both ends more killer at this point because killers decide to tunnel, camp, and just be mad when I play stealthy or aggressive.
Okay salty killer main who blames survivors for everything
Yeah im in red ranks too dude. Lucky you you dont get face camped all the time like the rest of us.
Camping is part of the theme of Horror movies, Suddenly the Killer is back at the basement while you try to save your friend, its very satisfying to the theme, but very much to you because the Killer outsmarted you. At Least you have pallets.
The Killer would have no freedom if you removed the ability to Camp, What you want is a AI Killer that does intentionally stupid things to let you escape. This won't happen.
Punishing Campers is also a bad idea, because then the people who are most likely to camp will end up in low Rank, scaring away the newcomers to the game and the Rank 20s.
Its possible Campers as low Rank, wont have to camp since its low rank games, but that's seems like a stretch to me.
As a Camper myself, I think Camping is a response to the absurd gameplay most survivors are capable of producing for a chase. I don't want to chase you around pallets for 7mins.
Maybe Camping wont be an issue if there were more elements to the game, but alas not.
Playin both sides at red ranks, i dont see that much camping when i play survivor. It´s already tough to pip as a killer. But i also dont tbag the hell out of a killer, maybe thats a reason for some killers to facecamp ?!
I can remember i had some killers, most times at green ranks after rank reset, that camped me cause "i camp everyone who blinds me with a flashlight ..." or other stupid reasons, or they thought, we played as a swf.
When playing killer, it´s situational. When someone´s hooked and the doors are open, what else should i do than to proxy?
Most times i was "camping", as states at the chat after the game, a survivor ran to unhook and í´ve seen the scratchmarks. This leads most times to a "ring around the rosie" around the hooked one: i want the grab, he wants the unhook.
SO, i dont see this problem at red ranks, but i´m sure, it´s annoying as -insert a bad word with F- at lower ranks, especially for solo´s, when the team dont realize fast enough, that someone´s gettin camped.
Then don't be the person on the hook. You just have to be less easy to find, catch and down than at least one of your teammates
Yes. I mean look at it from the killers pointo of view one kill is better than no kills
Well yes, of course they're to blame for a great deal that is wrong with the game. Killers can't be blamed, because we're not listened to: we had virtually no hand in how the game has developed since release.
I was once of the view that no one can be blamed for what they use in order to win in the game, that it was entirely on the devs to make sure the game was fun and fair for everyone. This changed when it become clear after six months or so that the survivors could not benefit from the status of bystanders; their feedback was actively steering and misdirecting the devs. This is how a broken feature like Bloodlust got introduced, on the justification that it would 'help against pallet-looping'.
The devs didn't actually know what pallet-looping was though. They thought it was a survivor looping around a pallet that had already been dropped. This was because for months survivors had responded to complaints about the brokeness of pallet-looping from killers with "just break the pallet", indicating to the devs that this was not about looping around a pallet before dropping it. The devs could not understand why killers wouldn't just "break the pallet".
Bloodlust needs removing from the game because it's only good against low rank solo survivors and does nothing against experienced/boosted survivors in higher ranks and the devs need to stop listening to them.
I see campers at all ranks from time to time depends how bad tempered the killer is
It is a legit strat. Stupid, but legit. Why else would they have that perk that completely gets rid of your terror radius when you stand still? There is literally nowhere else to use it except to either face camp and hope they dont have mics, or camp nearby but behind a corner so the hooked survivor cant see you. Plus they have a perk for survivors that shows the killers aura when a hooked survivor is looking at it. So face camping isnt even that effective against survivors that arent swf.
Face campers got to go I'm a high rank but i still get put in a match with face campers they need to get band it just makes the game not fun and plus you can end up messing up ranks I hate face campers
Take it as a complement obviously you did something to gain that Killer's utmost hatred and as a survivor you should feel proud that you tore down yet another person trying to have fun.
It's a tactic, a scummy one yeah, but nonetheless a tactic
Why camp? Because its my answer to genrush, 2-3 gens pop during a first chase, another one when i hook that first survivor. Then i check the map only to see last gens far away from each other... so then i get bored of this situation and switched to cannibal. No matter how good u hold m1, 2 of u will die.
You'll get a depip. And that is what sux.
But as much as I hate it, we can't police every action in this game. Gotta let people play how they want and not reward it by trading hooks.
In the end the killer is limiting their own growth as a killer and will never get any better.
16 meters is not face camping
How did this get revived? Wasn't this posted in July?
I have no idea
If you cant punish flat camping then your gameplay is just plain bad. If decent killer is camping its because he knows that you camping the hook. Try to be more active.
And then if killer came back to hook and is just camping survivor until the second stage then killer would be stupid if he didnt do that.
I can guarantee that a facecamping killer will not give the slightest of ######### about losing a couple thousand bloodpoints.