I don't check the forums very often but my impression is that the situation here in most threads is a war between killers vs survivors, with killers being more vocal about their frustrations.
I feel like most people here are looking at the other side as an enemy. Some killers here even admitted that they enjoy destroying baby survivors that just bought the game after rank reset. This will come only from someone who holds grudges against the other role. Having a fruitful discussion with someone who considers you as an enemy is almost impossible.
Some people even make posts complaining that the devs don't listen to them. Thank god they don't listen to their biased opinion, if they listened to them, the game would have died long time ago.
You definitely get less potato survivors in red ranks. Some are boosted though. Wait times aren't that long, though you'll be placed with odd ranks with how it is now. The nerfs were changes to make it less about just exist and reap the benefits and more about the situation you're placed in. Adrenaline may even see a future change; who knows.
@Bravo0413 that is getting shafted since it was abused.
That is true although you get potatos 50/50% of the time considering its not hard to get to anymore
What is getting shafted?
Here is the problem with how you posted.
First you used definitive terms to clump everyone together such as "gets every killer upset" / "most to all killers act like this on EVERY post".
Unless you can provide the percentage of everyone who plays killer and then dissect the people who "flame" to prove (with hard evidence) your point that "every killer" does this it just takes away from your credibility and makes enemies out of people you may not have intended to target.
Secondly evidence to the polar opposite can be found too with killer related posts getting torn apart by survivor players. The problem is as @ShrekIsHot said "It goes for both sides, people have opinions,".
It is posts like this that continue to create an idea of "Killer players vs Survivor players" and foster the concept that you either belong to one side of this flame war or the other. Everyone has their own opinion and cherry picking situations to fit your narrative does not help the Developers make a better game, nor help the community reduce the toxicity that has festered.
It is perfectly fine to have your own opinion on the game or events surrounding the game but make sure you review both sides of an argument or topic of discussion before trying to clump ever single person into a category for the sake of your narrative.
You are right that this game has a large amount of toxicity but this is even more reason to take care in how you word/research your frustrations as to avoid simply making another hate filled post yourself.
(Since it can be difficult to express this without having a face to face conversation understand this isn't written with anger or malice towards you at all. I can see where you are frustrated (as many are) and your passion on the subject clearly burns bright. Just don't let your passion burn you too.)
@Bravo0413 the bloodpoints for surviving.
Unfortunately this is too true. It's one big ######### storm over which side has it worse and what should be done to the other side to fix it.
Some one posts a thread that only looks at what Killers have and makes blanket statement basically saying Survivors keep getting nerfed but Killers don't. And makes statements such as "all Killers x".
People post that they disagree and point out that the poster is showing bias and ignoring how strong Survivors are/can be.
Put better than i ever could. +1 agree whole heartedly
wanna know why?
survivors hold the power role in this game, so any post asking for bigger survivor buffs would obviously break the balance in high ranks even more, therefore not many will approve the idea.
if its a good idea with counterplay - that is balanced for both sides - i doubt it would get lots of hate from everyone. of course those ideas would also have something good for killers in them, since that is how balance works.
the only reason why we have seen so many killer buffs (and killer buffs only) in the last time was, because the game was heavily unbalanced. Survivors had received multiple buffs over the last years while killers have not seen any, so it was their turn.
right now the balance is okay. we do not need uffs for one side only. if we get that, it could break the balance easily - especially if we're talking about survivor buffs since, like i said before, they already hold the power role. killer only buffs therefore dont hold that weight, since killers are not holding said power role.
How about we address the fact that EVERY KILLER IN THE GAME has been nerfed at one point. That includes their powers & perks.
The dark times were real for killers. Where is the dark times for suhvivahs?
I feel like mods will soon have a reason to close this.
Just a feeling...
Devs would nerf a apple if they thought it wasn't "fun" in game :D
Weren't the apple add-ons indirectly nerfed as a result of Plague changes @[email protected]
It's just endless crying on both sides saying the devs are biased for the other side while calling anyone who disagrees with them a main of the opposite side meant as an insult.
The game just needs to remain fun for both sides. It has to be winnable for everyone and should provide challenge (to which killers are often opposed, sure). If one side stops being fun to play then the whole game crumbles because you can't have one without the other. Maybe the community should just play the game without getting so uproarious over whether they have to win every single trial. I mean, it is just a game. It's not important in any way at the end of the day.
I like your name, i like your comment and i like you.
oh no you are right but we all know how thatll end anyways
How about we address the fact that the survivial rate in general is not high?
Its pretty low ,actually.
Of course 4 men SWF is another story .
But solo survivors are not OP in any way shape or form.
I noticed that too! I am not a survivor main either a killer main. Most of whiny therades I see are on the killer side... "nerf adrenaline, self-care, new ds, bt... ect.
People should just play both sides and they will see survivors aren't op on themself(only with swf)
100% agree. Any time I make a post about anything survivor related, people immediately start commenting on why that would be too op and that survivors are already strong enough. They don't even think they just immediately start talking.
I'm a killer main but i play enough survivor to know that the reason all the killer mains r so salty is cuz they're just so bad mostly. Like seriously i've got 1250 hours, and think im a very good killer, but when i play survivor there are so many AWFUL ones who obviously have no clue, so they cry about it on the forums
Survivors. crying because of clown, nurse and prayer beads
killers: crying because of looping, t-bag and blaming the devs for everything
me: smiling as I watch everyone eat each other alive
@Detective_Jonathan Clown? People cry about Clown?
I thought most agree Clown isn't great. New Freddy does clowns power better than clown.
@Bbbrian2013 People complain about him because they don’t like the gas, claiming that it gives them headaches, and that he has exhaustion add-ons.
@Detective_Tapp I think you're referring to a specific person and people close to them. Too close to not be.
I mean I once posted a suggestion to make it where survivors didn't lose offerings and the offering wasn't used(as in if you used a Bloody Party Streamers you didn't get the bonus BP and didn't use the offering) if a killer DCs and killers got pissed about it, or A killer got pissed about it, lol. Literally wasn't a balance issue, it was just an issue of offerings being used when the game didn't even get started, which was stupid(I used 3 bloody party streamers in one day, EVERY SINGLE TIME the killer DCed before the game started so I lost them all, which led me to make that suggestion, and even now I rarely get to use Bloody Party Streamers without the killer DCing).
Because it was probably wasn't "Survivor has a good idea".
Perhaps you were simply incorrect and it was actually a bad idea.
I would like to see this post where killer main guy pissed cause you wanted to not lose a offering because the killer dced