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Major exploit in SWF groups

Raven87Raven87 Member Posts: 36

on Steam but guess on all other platforms as well there is a major exploit allowing survivors extremly high rank to be matched against baby killers rank 15-20.The exploit work in a very simple way ,3 high rank people(rank 1-3 lot youtubers use that) allow a them friend or smurf lvl 20 rank to create a room and invite them accounts ,then the killer opponent will be same rank or around the rank of room creator so a baby killer rank 19-20.This exploit is going on from some weeks and it really is leading more of new players to quit the game...developers would have to look into it and fix it asap..isnt a minor thing when your biggest playerbase start to quit the game due to a unfair exploit.



  • altruisticaltruistic Member Posts: 1,070
    edited July 2019

    SWF matchmaking is based on rank overall btw. If you play with a rank 1, 2, 3 and 20 your killer should be about rank 6.

  • altruisticaltruistic Member Posts: 1,070

    Maybe because not enough survivors are queued for the amount of killers online. Calling playing with friends an exploit, is hilarious. I’m not sorry.

  • Raven87Raven87 Member Posts: 36

    no currently the matchmaking for survivors is based on room creator rank..if creator is rank 20 then killer is around same rank als if his other 3 etam mates are rank 1...you can experiment by yourself.

  • HeroiqHeroiq Member Posts: 1,031

    that's not how it works btw.

    this @altruistic guy already explained it. i'll just give another example that i've tested myself.

    a friend of mine starting playing dbd before a while, and we decided to group up with him in swf and teach him a bit, in about 5 matches, i was the host(the one who's inviting), and we kept on getting rank 10-6 killers (note that my rank was 2-3 and the other buds were 3-5)

    i told him to be the one who's inviting us because i wanted to know if this " exploit " exists or not, and around 12 matches, faced killers from ranks ranging from 12 to 4.

  • altruisticaltruistic Member Posts: 1,070

    I guess my friends can’t play with me since I am lower rank 😒. What terrible exploiters! I’m flirting with 5k hours and rank 16/17 survivor since I haven’t played much this year.

    Guess I can’t play the game since I have way more time than the killers I would go against 😭😭

  • Raven87Raven87 Member Posts: 36
    edited July 2019

    solution would be very simple..for SWF groups the killer must be always same rank as the best rank person in team..thats a simple and fast fix to this major exploit..i'm not saying everyone is using this method for exploit the game " altruistic" but there are lot people abuse of this system.Exploit define :to make use of meanly or unfairly for one's own advantage .Doesnt matter if you are using hack or no if you get an unfair advantage you are using a exploit.

  • altruisticaltruistic Member Posts: 1,070


  • MadjuraMadjura Member Posts: 909
  • BBQnDemogorgonBBQnDemogorgon Member Posts: 3,359

    @altruistic You do know if you invited your rank 20 friends instead of you joining them it wouldn't be an exploit?

    The exploit is intentionally having the low rank start the invite process. Thats what gives low rank killers.

    If 3 ranks 1s ask a rank 20 to invite it will give a rank 20 killer.

    If the rank 1s invite the rank 20 it'll give a rank 1 killer.

    Thats why its an exploit.

  • TheBeanTheBean Member Posts: 2,320
    edited July 2019


    It was.... Until they put in the new Match Making system.

    I made a post about it.

    When they added in the new match making system, they didn't carry over that rule, and now use the SWF lobby creator like it was in the beginning.

    So since that info is packaged and sent to the MMR, it is going to be a client side change. So we'll have to wait until the next big update before that is fixed.

  • Raven87Raven87 Member Posts: 36

    some famous twitch and youtube "stars" use this method now for make videos and bully new killer with infinite loop or walking close and endgame hide the list or quickly exit..they always rank up witha smurf friends rank 20 creating the room...

  • ElusivePukkaElusivePukka Member Posts: 673

    Peanits recently confirmed that the host of the SWF lobby determines lobby rank when readying up, so anyone who says otherwise is thinking of before it was patched.

  • Raven87Raven87 Member Posts: 36

    so Elusive on your opinion can we report the premade groups with all top rank 1-2 and one rank 20 matched against a rank 15 -20 killer?for exploiting abuse?or the game is supposed to work in this way and nothing can be done?so i got a good reason for quit

  • TheBeanTheBean Member Posts: 2,320
    edited July 2019

    @Raven87 Cya later then.

    Someone is worried they are going to be the butt end of some crappy youtube video or twitch clip.


  • DrDeepwoundDrDeepwound Member Posts: 251
    edited July 2019

    Devs, in most games, do not seem to plan that their players (survivors) in this instance will cheat/abuse the system. What we have found is, in this game especially, survivors will abuse anything that is left open, just as killers would I suppose, but we know this to be true from dev testing of things. Whether it was "punishing killers near a hook" etc,...

    Devs allowing the match making to use the rank of the person who creates a lobby, literally holds the door open to an abuse/exploit that is more than predicted but expected.

  • Raven87Raven87 Member Posts: 36

    you are probably one of those survivors abusing and exploiting this system for your rank :) and you are scared of dont challange anymore baby killers in your games and lose .

  • TheluckyboiTheluckyboi Member Posts: 1,114

    No, but purposefuly smurfing with your high rank SWF to bully baby killers is not fun.

  • Raven87Raven87 Member Posts: 36

    anyway i opened the topic due to frustration i counted games in last 3 days 16...playing as trapper and billy and hag and freddy rank 15...all 16 games i had premade team opponents , in all 16 games there was ONE rank 16-17survivor and 3x rank 1-3 survivors.Its not a matter of 1-2 games this type exploit seem to be very popular.

  • TheBeanTheBean Member Posts: 2,320


    TBH I'm usually playing solo, I'd say about 95% of my matches. I only got a few people on my friends list that actually play this game anymore.

    I do and have used it that "exploit". Why not?

    I want more bloodpoints... I don't care about the challenge... I've played for over 3000 hours in this game over 3 years... I don't care if I win or lose... I just want some bloodpoints, and if I can milk them from a baby killer than why not?

    Who wants to play in a high rank match that ends in 5 minutes and you get 10K when you can get over 20K playing in a low rank match in 10 minutes.


    This game isn't just about winning and losing it is about having fun. There is no fun in the high ranks, not for me anymore.


    If the Devs put in silly rules like using the lobby's creator for Match Making, when they had it working using the average for over two years... Then I don't expect people to not "exploit" this.

    It is 100% the developer fault in this case.

    Someone who was tasked to create a new match making system, never even bothered to look at the existing rules of the previous match making system.

  • Raven87Raven87 Member Posts: 36

    your post is the reason the development team would have to fix quickly game issues and clear exploits and ban..people as you selfish only care for them own stuff..and of course abuse of every system legit and illegal for get advantages :) thats a clear example of toxic player and bad person in general.Exploiting is always illegal so getting a rank 20 for open the room and invite top tier player is exploiting isnt playing with friends :).

  • MegsAreEvilMegsAreEvil Member Posts: 819

    So what exactly is an exploit here? The matchmaking exactly does what it should do. The only point you can have is that it shouldnt be thath way. But then dont talk big about exploits, cause theres no exploit.

  • PulsarPulsar Member Posts: 2,862

    Some people are worried it is driving off newer people. Three Rank 1's and a Rank 20 Lobby Leader should NOT be getting Rank 20's.

  • CymerCymer Member Posts: 942

    There is a long history of posts that advocate for SWFs be matched with their top ranked members and not the average.

    It's old news.

    Other games like LoL matches you with slightly higher mmr opponents if you play with friends to balance the matches.

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