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Make killers pass a minimum 50mbps upload test

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  • StrickxNyneStrickxNyne Member Posts: 213

    Not sure on the distance part. When a friend in Canada is matched as killer I've had zero issues and he shows a ping around 70 for me to him at 50mbps. Another friend one state south lands killer on 20mbps and ping is 250. Distance isn't seeming to be a factor there.

  • OrionOrion Member Posts: 17,014

    I'm sure about the distance part because I actually studied this.

  • AlfredAlfred Member Posts: 272

    Before he changed name of this topic he expected 50GBPS!

  • GodDamn_AngelaGodDamn_Angela Member Posts: 1,598

    OP doesn't understand how connecting to people/servers who aren't, relatively, nearby works.

  • ChefExcellenceChefExcellence Member Posts: 4

    I'm a server technician and it dawned on with this quote right here, that you haven't got the SLIGHTEST clue how the internet works!


    "Would it be unfair penalization or would it be fair to all players? Seems a tad unfair to grab host spot knowing you cannot handle it honestly. The minimum specs to play online is 5mbps so even if we went with minimums for all 5 players per Xbox reccomendations, host couldn't be had under 25mbps."


    Let me point out a few flaws in your thinking:


    1) That minimum speed isn't a minimum speed, it's the minimum speed to have a relatively enjoyable experience with downloading games / updates - You could easily play online with no lag on a 0.5Mb internet connection - Hell, I've played with no lag whilst tethered to an iPhone 3Gs which has a maximum speed of around 300Kbps!


    2) That 5Mb per player you speak of which means the killer needs 25Mb - The packets uploaded by the game are tiny, you're probably looking at about 64KB/s if that (and yes, that is factoring in the killer being the "server" - If it was dedi servers you'd be uploading about 8KB/s) There is NO game in the world that uploads data at 5Mb/s - Thats a 720p Twitch stream right there!


    3) Latency is NOT caused by the speed of your internet connection, it is caused by how far that data has to travel - If you are in the USA and you are playing with someone in Europe, no matter whether you have 1Mb upload or 500Mb upload, the latency is going to be pretty much the same - The packets have to travel through thousands of miles of cable, switches and servers, it is this that is going to slow it down!


    Go onto Speedtest.net and run a speed test to a server close to where you live and take a look at the ping - Then start picking servers further and further away and you will see that your latency starts to increase

  • FredKruegerFredKrueger Member Posts: 265

    If people would just hard-wire their stuff, we wouldn't have this problem. Any Wi-Fi is gonna lag. Hardwired on the other hand tho.... ✌

  • AlfredAlfred Member Posts: 272

    I dont know any PC gamer who is connected via Wi-FI. Console issue only.

  • FredKruegerFredKrueger Member Posts: 265

    You would be surprised. I've gotten in arguments with friends trying to explain to them there problem is Wi-Fi. A lot of people believe that Comcast hi speed Wi-Fi is good enough. There's plenty of people that either don't know how to hard-wire, or are just too lazy, so they rely on Wi-Fi and ruin it for everyone. It's definitely a bigger issue on console tho, I'll agree there!

  • LirulinielLiruliniel Member Posts: 2,966
  • FredKruegerFredKrueger Member Posts: 265

    Unfortunately, yes. I have a special list for certain friends on ps4 that run Wi-Fi that I put them in, and they wonder why I won't play with them... Lol

  • LirulinielLiruliniel Member Posts: 2,966
    edited July 2019

    Bummer.

    I'm still waiting for people to understand the difference between the practical use of 2.4 GHz and 5.0 GHz for when they aren't wired.

  • StrickxNyneStrickxNyne Member Posts: 213

    Clearly you didn't ready the body you genius. No one had 50 gigs Jesus

  • StrickxNyneStrickxNyne Member Posts: 213

    I wish distance were true. Again I'm in the southern US and have zero issues with friends in sweeden or Canada. I have more problems connecting to a friend in Southern Texas. Yes if you have incredibly slow internet your neighbor connecting to you is going to lag. The minimum raccomendarion by Xbox to get online is 1mbps. Minimum. That's not for even an average gaming experience. Upload is what matters in hosting. Sure ping distance plays a role and so does horrid internet speeds which many will figure out on dedicated servers. I honestly can't wait for dedicated servers to in turn watch a majority of you lose if because your 5mbps won't handle it 😂 😂

  • StrickxNyneStrickxNyne Member Posts: 213

    "Speed isn't an issue, only ping and distance is" stream you playing on dialup, I'll wait.

  • StrickxNyneStrickxNyne Member Posts: 213
  • toxic_clowntoxic_clown Member Posts: 318

    OP, who hurt you?

  • BossBoss Member, Trusted Posts: 11,531

    Btw, you're asking for this while the average upload speed in, for example, the U.S. is below 10.

    You're also asking for this while some people only have one provider for their area, and not all providers provide such an upload rate.


    I said thousands before, right?

    Well, I change my mind: With you making that change, you'd outright kill the game.

  • StrickxNyneStrickxNyne Member Posts: 213

    I'm asking host be removed from garbage internet. That's all I'm asking. Prove you can host or take it away. You're acting as if I'm requesting you be banned from playing for having bad internet. I'm not. I'm requesting only you suffer for your internet. It's a simple concept really 🤷‍♂️

  • StrickxNyneStrickxNyne Member Posts: 213

    I'm thinking everyone forgot to read the first line of my post and just went on with a fit. Carry on with assumptions though. They're losing thousands not wanting to play because of bugs, lag etc. It was so bad they had to put it on game pass free hoping more would come be survivors.


    If forcing a fair game kills the game, kill it 💯

  • ABannedCatABannedCat Member Posts: 2,482

    Mate, if you lag in 9 out of 10 games, I can 100% assure you, its on your end, not on the killer's end.

    When I play survivor, on my 8mbps WLAN connection, I lag in maybe 1/20th of my games maximum. Barely any killer has bad connection nowadays. The only ones who lag are on wireless, and physically too far away from their access point to prevent packet loss (other side of their house, usually with multiple rooms weakening the signal).

    Taking a look at my data usage when hosting a match myself, the most I get is 48kbps download, and 16kbps upload. Dead by Daylight is really [BAD WORD] lightweight when it comes down to the Internet requirements.

  • JdsgamesJdsgames Member Posts: 1,109
    edited August 2019

    Considering that is average download speed and normally upload speed is far lower than that. Anyone who is not in New Jersey and Maryland for the most part should not be allowed to play Dead by Daylight. (Gig Up/Down and or fiber is bare minimum across most states)

  • JdsgamesJdsgames Member Posts: 1,109
    edited August 2019

    Begone you low internet capability scum. How dare you be limited by your ISP and geographical location since it isn't like they have people by the balls with monopoly over an area. However, I am still glad to play with high ping matches at least you have a match to play. Hell, most Minecraft servers you play on has >100ms ping. I think people need to take the time to learn how their internet really works with gaming. A connection is a two way road.

    (Hopefully the mods understand it is being said jokingly and I don't get bars)

  • BossBoss Member, Trusted Posts: 11,531
    edited August 2019

    My upload speed is 24 MB/s, and i live in a country which is in the top 10 of average internet speeds.

    Heck, i didn't even look at the speed, i just went for the cheapest deal.


    Now here's a fun fact: Never had complaints about my internet from Survivors.

    To believe that fact or not is up to you.


    Me suffer from my bad internet? Hardly, you're simply asking for something that WILL remove pretty 99% of the players.

  • JdsgamesJdsgames Member Posts: 1,109

    Welp, sorry you didn't pass the killer internet entry exam. You are now forced to play survivor or KYF for the remainder of your DBDing days. How dare you try to save money what a heathen. I cannot believe you do not have a dedicated fiber line to your home tsk tsk tsk. Also how do you not read "Up to ##mb/s" and understand that it doesn't matter what tier you order it matters on your location. Since 25mb/s is up to 50 and the 100mb/s plan.

  • Absolute_ZeroAbsolute_Zero Member Posts: 34

    @StrickxNyne

    I didn't study IT-technology, but as a physicist I think to know at least some things about it.


    The Ping you get to a Killer, is not determined by DL/UL - rate, rather than other factors.

    While DL/UL does affect the ping, it is relatively small once you pass a certain threshold (which is pretty small, pretty much every Internet these days is way above)


    What really matters are things like this:

    • Distance to the Server (in this case the Killer) -> more distance, the more the data has to travel
    • How many people are on the same line as you -> are in your neighborhood many people online right now? how much data do they use, maybe they are taking more than the line can handle
    • How does your provider/the switches on the line connect you to the server? -> maybe you are getting connected over another line because the direct way is blocked, so there is in the end more distance to the server
    • How is the quality of the line? -> Copper cable? Fiber? Old/new?
    • When you go a wireless way, the weather if you are connected to a Sending tower (Phones), how are the walls affecting the router signal,....

    You see, these are just some things affecting ping. There are many reasons you can get bad ping.

    DbD is a peer to peer connection, which means pretty much everything is DOUBLED, as the Host has the same ping-changing things, unlike most servers, which are on their own line. It doesn't have to be your lines fault or the hosts, it is in most cases something even the best UL/DL doesn't change at all.


    Maybe you understand it better now.

  • DemonDaddyDemonDaddy Member Posts: 1,491

    I would rather spend 10min in a laggy game than 30min in the lobby waiting. Providers don't always give you the full speed your paying for and there are tons of other factors that can affect a connection.

  • StrickxNyneStrickxNyne Member Posts: 213

    Almost everyone is wireless on Xbox. I direct ethernet in because wifi has so much lag. Someone did mention the everyone seeing ping at the start of the match and that has now limited a lot of laggy games but many are still showing 100ms ping and when the console has to render the groahics in chases, when the killer arrives to an area, people pop out behind trees. I've yet to lag a match as killer to date. I've gotten so many messages thanking me for not lagging the game out that I'm starting to see this isn't a me problem but a huge problem that happend after this game was put on game pass on Xbox one.

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