i... never said any of those things...like, at all xD
i just said that it would prevent R1 players to go down and bully low ranking killers. a rank 1 player with lets say 3k hrs shouldnt be able to face a rank 16 killer with lets say 100 hours. yet that is possible, which is just bad game design and encourages toxicity.
i never said you werent allowed to team up with your friends, i said you should face a killer on the skilllevel of the best member in your team. i really dont know where you read all those things you claimed i said in my comment...
As a killer main I dont mind playing SWF as long as they are a good non toxic group. What about a compromise of the SWF group gets the average of the players but the killer should get bonus BP % equal the the biggest difference between their rank and highest rank so if your rank 13 and your fighting a rank 2 you would get a 11% bonus to your end game BP. Just a thought.
Have you ever considered the killer's fun in that equation? I can tell you from personal experience that being matched with 1 or 2 people who are like 5 or 10 ranks above you is not fun at all as killer. Those people vastly surpass your skill, and make the balance shift hugely towards the survivors side.
@ABannedCat well i hope killer has fun with 3min games when soloQ players are mashing gens, instead of having game in which survs are screwing around, looting, doing totems, etc xd, ofc they prefer 3min games :)
@Mister_xD well (but youre into that idea) if i have red rank (not atm but most of the time unfortunatelly i had red rank) and have friends with 30-40h that are starting playing in dbd its for sure fair to play with red rank killer, and tbh recently i have like 4-5 friends that literally have at most 30lvl on 1 surv, so its fair to push them vs red rank :) (and btw these days its more likely for 200h player to have red rank than over 2k hours player because those with 2k know how trash red ranks are so its better to have chill games in purple/green, but new kids on the block doesnt know that so they are like lets hit R1 and be greatest players in community :) )
but friendly reminder :) with current killer que, matchmaker is ignoring ranks anyway :) so even tho you hate playing vs SWF that avg rank is around yours, atm with current state of game you as killer can easly play vs swf (which you hate most in the world for some reason) that avg rank is way higher than your as killer xd im so fckin amazed how instead of fix you want a change which is fix but with overkill for que :)
not every swf is sweaty and focused on making killers life miserable xd and remember 1 surv cant carry whole team unless killer will refuse to drop chase xd (which is his fault) xd so he needs to learn that lesson if he wants to rank up (as you would love to)
I dont know in what ranks you reside in. But vast majority of the SWF groups I encounter dont come to the game to screw around, but they come to the game to destroy killers. They see it as a competetive game. Which isnt always fun for the killer, unless its a strong killer.
Sure, cause this is totally fair.
While that is true, there is one big difference. The survivor is the one that decides to team up, and which whom. Thus, he has some control over the rank of the killer. The killer simply has no choice other than dodge swfs.
And a rank 15 Killer versus a rank 2 and 4 Survivor = Fair?
If you're going to survive with friends and you have two highest rank Survivor in the group, then it should be verses against a high-ranking killer, we don't need boosted survivors. There shouldn't even be any boosted survivors in the first place, you want to wonder why half of the survivors most people team up with in solos are bad? Even though they're red ranked survivors? Because half of them are boosted from Survivor friends and don't know what to do when they are on their own.
Yes, it should.
Nobody is saying that. If you choose to group up with green rank friends then do so. But, it was not the green rank killer's choice to face a SWF with 1 to 2 red ranks that toy with him/her all match.
If you know you will face a red or purple rank killer, you still can choose to group up, but you likely won't be able to torture the killer as easily.
This is why green ranks are litterally the wost place to be as killer. Full of red rank derankers or SWF groups that bring a yellow rank friend to stomp green rank killers.
So... rank 10 Killer = fair for rank 2 Survivor? Nice logic.
I say it should work on the average of the survivor ranks.
Killer rank should absolutely be close to whoever the highest rank survivor is.
You are an amazing specimen of logic. One rank 2 killer fair for a rank 13 survivor is unfair?
But a rank 13 killer against rank 2 survivor with one or more friends and the power of voice and coordination is ok?
Think before you type.
Rank 2 killer against a Rank 13 survivor with at least the support from one Rank 2 survivor and the other survivors are likely around Rank 2 as well. You still have voice, that can give you a heads up to hide or run early enough and the Rank 2 SWF can either guide, protect and/or safe you. Or at least having a fun time playing with a friend.
SWF is such a big problem, I was just bullied by a SWF group, I am rank 14 killer and the I had a rank 4, 2 rank 8's and a yellow against my rank 14.
Needless to say I did not have fun
I would love it if they took the two highest ranks and got a avg between them and that's how the killer was picked for SwF. Though with how people depip im starting to think All Time played vs Season Play vs Rank should be considered. This way new people can't physically be paired with people who have hundred to thousands of hours.
You didn't read what they wrote carefully.
That person was arguing against the OP's point that gearing it toward the highest survivor rank runs the exact same problem because you'll have the lowest survivor on the team way outclassed. At no point were they saying it's okay for a low rank killer to go up against high rank survivors.
so in short you want to tell me that its unfair for low level survivors to face high level killers, yet its completely fair and balanced for low level killers to face high level survivors.
that is quite the doublestandart there.
since you mentioned "killer queue times", those have dropped drastically - at least for me. on top of that, i happen to always find survivors of my rank in my lobbies, unless i get an SWF group - this is whrere i face those red rank survivors currently.
and yeha, it might be that not all SWFs out there are sweaty tryhards, its just that those i get usually are. if i find survivors that want to goof around, great! ill gladly join them and have a chill and fun time. and yet 99.95% of the survivor groups i face look for a competetive match and tryhard to win - that includes SWF groups.
here is the simple truth: when i as a low rank survivor decide to group up with a rank 1 survivor, i should be prepared to face good killers. that was my decision, i actively made the choice to face those killers and i can stop whenever i want. the killers do not have that luxory. a low rank killer can not decide weather he goes up against said rank 1 survivor, he just has them join his lobby as 4 random persons with unknown rank.
that is simply unfair. if i group up with a red rank survivor, i should be facing red rank killers.
SWF is not the problem. The matchmaking system is because it should've taken the average of the group (between 7-9) and found a killer in that range.
People like to smurf their SWF groups. Bullying is fun to some.