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Should Freddy be able to teleport to triggered Dream Snares

Don't get me wrong, I'm glad sweater boi is no longer trash tier. However, it just naturally seemed to follow in my mind that he should be able to use his channel to teleport to dream snares as well as generators. The way I see it now, while Dream Snares are good for shortening loops, they require the target to already be in the dream world, and the screaming effect is rather useless as Freddy, even with his new oppressive gen teleport, can't really capitalize on it unless he both has his teleport up and the Snare is close enough to a generator that he can get over there. Not only that, but it requires them to be asleep; which is, granted, more common now than ever, but is something to consider. The way I see it, this ability would be balanced by a couple of things:

  1. Snares are far more visible than the Hag's mud hexes ever were. A bright red pool of blood shining brightly on the ground.
  2. Freddy has a cooldown on his channel, and a longer channeling time.
  3. Dream Snares have a smaller activation radius than the Blackened Catalyst.
  4. Dream Snares are only triggered if the Survivor is in the Dream World.

The only problem I see directly with the ability itself is that the Snare already hinders survivors, meaning it you may not get enough of a headstart on the stabby boi but the channel time is long enough that I feel this won't be an issue. Thoughts?


  • TheLastSpectreTheLastSpectre Member Posts: 21

    While the inability to avoid triggering dream snares by crouching may be a sticking point, I feel as though the long channel and recharge time make up for this.

  • JAWS_BDSMJAWS_BDSM Member Posts: 328

    You just should be able to put them instantly like pallets.

    The only thing needed to be changed in freddy.

    And his blocks ofc, they are awful

  • KabuKabu Member Posts: 926

    I do not think he should be able to teleport to them. Is there an add on that makes survivors reveal their aura after stepping on a snare? If not that would be a good block add on. I know that survivors normally scream after stepping on one though

  • TheLastSpectreTheLastSpectre Member Posts: 21

    Block addons are just plain bad, period. Which is a shame because most of his other addons are all very useful. Reduced actions speed in dream world and sometimes even out of it, dream pallets, reduced teleport cooldown, harder to escape dream world. I am disappointed not many of his addons are game changers like pallets, but snares, while not as useful for actually hitting the survivor in a loop, do allow you to keep loops down to two circles at max but mostly one.

  • FujinRaijinFujinRaijin Member Posts: 72

    No, he can set them so easily that there's no way to justify that, he'd legit just be a better Hag then.

  • George_SorosGeorge_Soros Member Posts: 2,270

    The concept of snares is that they are not really powerful, but they have their uses, and you can (and should) spam them as much as you can, since they don't take long to place at all. And anyway, it would be almost the same power as Hag's. So no, I don't think it's a good idea.

  • Wolfgamer0402Wolfgamer0402 Member Posts: 41

    I don't think so that's good either.

    I agree that the snares are more visible than mud hexes but you can place them in such a place that even though a survivor see them he has to go through them. Like in those large sheds in Huntress forest where mostly bunkers are or are present on the edge of map with jenny and pallets.

    Plus you can place them at windows like trappers traps.

    Because Freddy also has the ability to telephoto to a generator. So If I was a smart freddy then I would just injure a survivor so the others think I'm after him and then teleport to them because they least expect it.

    So in my defence Freddy is already buff and your power up would just make him super buffed

  • TheLastSpectreTheLastSpectre Member Posts: 21

    The thing is, the only areas where a survivor "has" to go through them are at generators, and Freddy can already teleport to generators. This ability would basically only be to punish people who are careless while walking around (though trapping both exit gates in the endgame would be a little too punishing, I will admit.) The channel time is already lengthy enough that he wouldn't be able to use it to immediately slap a survivor, unlike the Blackened Catalyst which is short enough that she can. And once again, I feel like all the disadvantages I outlined above would be enough. All they'd allow him to do are find survivors more easily and mindgame a couple loops.

  • TheLastSpectreTheLastSpectre Member Posts: 21

    I see I neglected to specifically mention in my post that in this hypothetical situation, Freddy can only teleport to triggered Dream Snares, same as the Hag; my mistake. With this in mind, I don't think the being awake point you made applies, unless I'm missing something. And unlike the Hag, Freddy's trap teleport would see little use in chases and less useful overall than the Hag's - same way that the Cannibal's chainsaw is both different and less useful than the Hillbilly's.

  • SleepharthaSleephartha Member Posts: 242

    NFW. He’s already pretty deadly in the right hands. The last thing we need is him being able to throw them at gates or any other hot spot he wants to cover. Killer mains are already living the good life with EGC.

  • TheLastSpectreTheLastSpectre Member Posts: 21

    You are correct he's a good killer, but he's not a top tier killer. SInce the gold standard for balancing is yet unclear to me as I have been offered numerous differing opinions, this was just another discussion in order to try and gauge that.

  • ToastfaceKillaToastfaceKilla Member Posts: 486

    Yeah that would be insane. Snares are actually useful in a chase, and you can pretty much negate most window loops and the majority of pallets without dropping speed. (The snares are visible, sure, but they also thicc, if you put them in the right places (not even then, because you can just spam them.) survivors can't run around them or disable them like they can with hag or trapper, they just have to either take it or abandon that route.

    They could be a little smoother in placement, but they are fine.

  • TheLastSpectreTheLastSpectre Member Posts: 21

    I never said Snares weren't useful in a chase, they're one of the better non - Billy or Nurse powers (I would say top 5 but that's an entirely different debate). What I said was the teleport would be useless in a chase because of, once again, all the disadvantages I outlined in my initial post.

  • gantesgantes Member Posts: 1,611
    edited August 2019

    If you know how to use them, snares are pretty damn good as is. He doesn't need any buffs period.

    EDIT: and he already has map pressure. Stop trying to overload killer kits, focus on asking for buffs for killers who aren't this good.

  • MarcusMarcus Member Posts: 2,047

    I would say his blocks add-ons needs buffs, a purple add-on should not give Hemorrhage period.

  • gantesgantes Member Posts: 1,611

    Yeah but add-ons are a different story.

    Base kit he needs nothing.

  • Wolfgamer0402Wolfgamer0402 Member Posts: 41

    But have you considered that freddy would be able to go through snares all the time and survivors won't be able to see them because they are awake

  • CorruptedCorrupted Member Posts: 157

    No. Freddy is pretty solid where he is, giving him the ability to teleport to traps would be insane and make hag pointless.

  • drkiwiedrkiwie Member Posts: 56

    Too powerful. Freddy is fine the way he is now

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