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Keep saying this over and over... but it has to be done asap.

xEaxEa Member Posts: 550
edited September 21 in General Discussions

Rank 20-17 or anything like that should be for BEGINNERS. I introduced this game to multible friends and they are all leaving because they simply have no interest in playing against people with 1000+ hours on their rank! Getting crushed by Survivor or Killers that are clearly more experienced is no fun for new players, and i dont see how this is still a thing in DbD. Another friend just uninstalled it only because of that reason.

Please devs, if you wanna hold new players, dont let them get crushed by players that are way better then them. Better today then tomorrow.

Thank you for reading

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  • HorusHorus Member Posts: 850

    Course not cant handle this game but bought stranger things dlc alright we got your 12$ we dont care if you stay we got your money

  • sluc16sluc16 Member Posts: 170

    Agree, new players need to play against people with their same level of experience, or they are gonna get crushed all the time and just quit. Is not fun to play a game where you know you just gonna have a terrible time.

  • I totally agree with this. If I was a new killer, I would be disappointed if I kept getting matched with rank 2 survivors but tell your friends whats happening so they dont rage quit ir just quit because of this bug.@xEa

  • DocOctoberDocOctober Member Posts: 2,230

    DbD has had a bad player retention rate for a very long time, that's really nothing new.

  • GrootDudeGrootDude Member, Trusted Posts: 12,372

    Whenever I started, rank reset put everyone back at rank 20. I started during a rank reset and of course I didn’t win very much at all but I stayed, because I knew that I’d have to get crushed to get better.

    Matchmaking bug needs fixed of course, but people who are willing to improve will stay.

  • xEaxEa Member Posts: 550

    It is always frustration vs dedication. Not many are dedicated enough for getting stomped so often (and especially so brutal), that they stay. At least not how it is right now. DBD needs new players, this matchmaking does not promote that by any means.

  • GrootDudeGrootDude Member, Trusted Posts: 12,372

    The bug needs fixed but I don’t think a lot will leave, it is kinda expected to get stomped when starting to play an online game, at least for me.

  • xEaxEa Member Posts: 550

    I like your optimism, and i hope you are right, but i doubt. If it stays that way, pretty much everyone will be gone besides some tryhards or some masochits.

  • GrootDudeGrootDude Member, Trusted Posts: 12,372

    De-ranking and the matchmaking bug are problems, I personally always found ways to have fun, despite getting stomped.

  • GrootDudeGrootDude Member, Trusted Posts: 12,372

    The matchmaking bug comes back every now and then, it has been fixed a lot but it keeps coming back.

  • xEaxEa Member Posts: 550

    would be whise to anounce it to new players, that this is not the normal status of the game, so there is at least a chance they take this game serious.

  • DragonredkingDragonredking Member Posts: 874

    What's the point?

    The matchmaking as been broken since day one and rank 20 can just end up being matched with red ranks anyway and whenever they manage to fix it it get broken the next patch all other again.

  • XbonedXboned Member Posts: 456
    edited September 21

    Toss me in the list of new players discouraged by this bug. I've been playing regularly for about a month and a half, I'm totally okay with losing matches, but when red ranks with epic loadouts started regularly appearing in my matches, I stopped having fun.

    I'm already kinda put off by the whole teachable perk system, tbh, but my time actually playing had been fun enough to justify it. Now... not every game is miserable, because sometimes it doesn't happen, but it's a roulette. If I get people around my rank, I have fun. If I get people 10 or more ranks away from me... not fun.

    Of course, I'm not a total noob either, I'm a green ranks kind of guy, so when I end up being forced into a match with totally fresh survivors, none of whom are under 17, that's not fun either. I either slaughter them and feel like a prick or I go easy and drag the game out for no reason but to try to compensate for BHVR's mistake.

    Either way, I have a new level of uncertainty loading into every game. Will they be way higher than me? Maybe. Lower? Maybe? Just right? Also maybe. My first minutes of every match are now spent watching each survivor like a hawk so I know the appropriate level of force to use.

    I don't understand why they release the new chapter before fixing the bug. If it were my game, I'd have pushed it back until it was fixed.

  • KilmeranKilmeran Member Posts: 1,904
    edited September 22

    @Xboned I agree with everything you've said. As it stands, I stopped even trying to login and play right now. I downloaded the six free Batman games that Epic is currently giving away, and did what I thought I would never do for the rest of 2019: logged into Overwatch. Already played enough to get the 9 wins on both my account and my 9-year-old's account to unlock the Bastion Lego skin for both of us.

    That was about 24-26 matches for those 18 total wins. Matches that I could have been playing in DbD instead, except, well . . . Behavior.

    You are logging into the game with a sense of uncertainty, you say. Unfortunately, I have a real sense of uncertainty toward Behavior as a whole. It's why I've decided to not buy Stranger Things at this time and will not be spending on cosmetics. As it stands, I don't have faith in them enough to spend my money on them.

    I almost purchased Deathgarden: Bloodharvest a couple weeks ago. Looking at them on Steamcharts, I'm glad I refrained from doing so.

  • malloymkmalloymk Member Posts: 538

    Red rank survivor who keeps getting matched with rank 20s. It's not fun for anyone unless I guess you like bullying.

  • ColonGlockColonGlock Member Posts: 413

    Dead by Daylight takes a long time to get good at, but if you put in the hours it will always surprise you. I keep getting surprised even after 1600 hours. Each match has the potential to be nuts if all the players do their best.

    Ranks 20-15 cannot be re-entered during the season once you reach 14. This change made it a little better. There are very experienced players in these ranks sometimes if they are coming back after a long break from the game. These players will be returning during the double blood points next week.

    It is a brutal learning curve but there are many Twitch streamers showing how they kill and survive every day. That really helped me when I first started. At the end of the day it is a party game and is best enjoyed with a light heart and no expectations of victory.

  • NoShinyPonyNoShinyPony Member Posts: 3,829

    @Kilmeran Yes, I remember your post where you talked about your sister. It's a very good example for the current situation/problem.

    I'm sorry that I can't be optimistic in this case, but I also think that the number of players will stay at 20-25k. It would be such a shame if this great license doesn't increase the number of players permanently. Hopefully I'll get proven wrong.

  • MochanMochan Member Posts: 2,886

    It's crazy how this still hasn't been fixed.

    And it's a very simple fix. Just don't match Devotion 0 players with Devotion 1+ players. Easy! They can still SWF if they want but don't match 0's with people who have Devotion 1 or higher.

    It's too large a gap in experience.

    I been fighting a few beginner killers over the week. The worst one was so lost I could literally juke him at will. I let him tag me a few times and hook me twice before I escaped just so he wouldn't feel so bad. Was lucky my teammates unhooked me actually.

  • KilmeranKilmeran Member Posts: 1,904
    edited September 22

    @NoShinyPony I know. Trust me, I know.

    I returned a couple weeks ago after burning out on Overwatch and not liking RoleQ being forced into the game. I was completely prepared to leave Overwatch behind and just play DbD. Hell, I'd even uninstalled Overwatch.

    Well, this weekend, I actually had decent time to play some video games for a change, which is like finding a unicorn. But guess what? Behavior didn't fix the damned matchmaker bug before they left for the weekend, so playing DbD was out of the question. So, I said "to hell with it" and reinstalled Overwatch for my PvP fix.

    I played enough matches to get the 9 wins to unlock the Bastion skin on my son's account, the 9 wins to unlock it on my account, and just completed my 9 wins for Arcade mode for the three extra lootboxes. That's 27 wins in two days, which averaged me about 35 or so matches.

    Those were matches I could have played in DbD if Behavior had just fixed the damned matchmaker. Even if it meant some extra hours for the Devs, you have a free weekend and a major sale going on for a PvP game: You fix the damned matchmaker as a number-one priority! Period.

    But they didn't. So playing those matches in Overwatch showed me that . . . you know what? . . . I actually don't mind RoleQ. And there's Quick Play Classic in the Arcade for my non-RoleQ play.

    So, allow me to thank Behavior for inspiring me to reinstall Overwatch and learn that information, all for leaving the matchmaker broken all weekend.

    Matchmaker was broken a couple weeks ago. Peanits said they made some adjustments to fix it. A major DLC launches, and they break it again and leave it broken over a free weekend?

    I guess they don't care to grow the game. Or maybe they think enough will just mindlessly stick around because of a Stranger Things DLC. Or maybe they're just banking on the Switch version money this coming week.

    So, riddle me this? Why should I continue giving my time, never mind any money, to Behavior?

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