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What would it take for the people who don’t want a battepass to accept it?

SlickSalSlickSal Member Posts: 102
edited June 2019 in General Discussions

The reason why I personally don’t think they should bring in a battle pass is just because of how much it has split the community. Why would the devs want to create this much of a rift in their community? 90% of the forum posts are on it.

I believe the effects the battle pass has on the community are a good enough reason not to implement it.

I personally believe they should make they game free to play for all in this case since we already pay for DLCS as well.

what do you guys think the devs would have to do or implement for you to accept a battle pass in dbd?

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  • SlickSalSlickSal Member Posts: 102

    @DenimChicken I’m not crying about it. I’m actually open to it. I just chose not to voice my own opinion as I felt it hinders the actual discussion. And that is “what would it take for the naysayers to accept a battlepass in dbd?”

  • snowflake102snowflake102 Member Posts: 1,866

    it will be fine:)

  • Mister_xDMister_xD Member Posts: 4,380

    honestly, the whole hate towards the bettlepass is completely unnecessary.

    lets just wait and see how it actually turns out t obe instead of just immediately starting a shitstorm for something we have never even seen in action.

  • BossBoss Member, Trusted Posts: 9,489
    edited June 2019

    Cosmetic only is fine by me.

  • BloodyNightsBloodyNights Member Posts: 432

    As someone stated above, I'd be fine with it if I could just purchase the skins I wanted from the DBD pass instead of having to play hours upon hours and hope I have enough time to get it, as many battle passes I've seen in the past have done. Which ultimately had me playing really hard in the beginning but burnt me completely out half way through.

  • MochanMochan Member Posts: 2,886

    A million bucks. If I had that in my bank account along with a few investments to churn out a good passive income I wouldn't mind a battlepass I have to pay through the wazoo to use.

  • MikeadatrixMikeadatrix Member Posts: 669

    This, so much this.

    Just as @se05239 said, companies use battle passes as ways to manipulate gamers into wasting cash but BHVR implementing an improved and moral version is a definite win. The Rift should be early and discounted/free access to skins that appear in the store for cash later.

  • GenSim12345GenSim12345 Member Posts: 182
    edited June 2019

    Offer something else besides cosmetics. I'd rather have, bloodpoints, shards, teachables, maybe even cells as they are all better incentives (to me at least) then a few cosmetics when we have a store for some pretty cool cosmetics for both survivors and killers.

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  • TsulanTsulan Member Posts: 5,453
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  • Andreyu44Andreyu44 Member Posts: 1,528
    edited June 2019

    I just hope it is not going to cost over 10 bucks.

    Cosmetics are already ridiculously overpriced in the store.

  • TheAntiSantaTheAntiSanta Member Posts: 111

    Probably brain damage. I don't see how else I could forget how these mechanics are used, or be unable to relearn exactly how they're designed for some really scummy stuff.

    I'd also need to lose my empathy, for anyone more susceptible to such tactics. That's gonna take some changes to the way my brain works.

    Then there's my knowledge of the entire history of video game monetization practices. Gonna need that erased from head, because it's never "Just Cosmetic" for very long. 2016-2017 needs to go, or I would remember the short road from Overwatch to Battlefront II.

    And my brain does not currently work in a way, that I could or would excuse a company's actions, just cause they need to make cash somehow. Why not in a way I find super gross? Who am I to judge them? I mean, how else are they supposed to make money, without doing this sort of thing?

  • BunnyTheHuttBunnyTheHutt Member Posts: 1,698

    If the game goes F2P then i would be ok with it, but its 30$ most days and the DLC are racking in another $100 for all survivors and killers. That is not even including the skin DLC like the charity case and the auric cells. It's way too greedy of a mindset too implement it when the game will cost you a second house mortgage just too get all the characters for the perks.

  • CarpemortumCarpemortum Member Posts: 4,056

    Difference is, those killers will ALWAYS be available and require ZERO grinding to actually use.

    Unlike the rift.

  • Scgamecock86Scgamecock86 Member Posts: 456

    Very simple, if you dont want it or dont support it dont buy it. But dont eliminate it completely just cause a few people are butthurt over it.

  • FreudentraumaFreudentrauma Member Posts: 819

    No, of course products get advertised, and yes sometimes stuff gets an artifical time limited offer. But not every product is designed as a consumer binding service. Stuff like screws and tools e.g. They are put in stores and if people want to buy some screws, they buy them. Most likely such products are just designed with a certain cost/quality balance in mind and has no design space for any kind of psychological tricks. So no. Not every single product ever designed does the same.

    If I think about it. It's actually kinda rare that products are designed to make the user to feel like he has to get the most out of it.

    @George_Soros It's understandable, that the devs want some kind of additional income besides DLCs. That's why they also have AC-only cosmetics. Something optional which isn't pay2win. And it doesn't put some additional pressure on those who buy it. People aren't upset that BHVR wants another source of income. Cosmetics might have been criticised. But mostly for their prices. The problem people have with battle passes is more about their time limited nature and the problems they come with it. And I think it's really good we have discussions about it and people are voicing their concerns, so Behaviour can consider it, while they are still in the design process of the Rift.

  • ReneAenslandReneAensland Member Posts: 838

    Cosmetic only sounds so boring.

  • SpaceCoconutSpaceCoconut Member Posts: 1,525

    To remove the predatory nature of the Rift, they would need to do a few things.

    ~Remove the free path

    ~Allow the rewards from the pass to be purchasable in the store after the season ends for iri shards or Allow the battle pass to remain in effect until the player completes it.

    ~Allow the battlepasses to be purchasable in the store after their season has ended for those who missed them.

    These three things are what triggers a specific psychological anxiety disorder which the Rift is specifically designed to create. The devs designed it this way to drive sales by taking advantage of this anxiety.

    Removing them removes this deliberate psychological trigger and brings the product closer into consumer friendly territory.

    This will allow us to have more control over when to purchase these items instead of feeling pressure to do so before they are no longer available.

  • EninyaEninya Member Posts: 1,036

    Fortnite is free to play, but if I wanted that John Wick skin I had to pay for the Battle Pass to get it. Not buy the skin: buy the opportunity for the skin.

    That's the problem with these faux subscriptions in Battle Passes: They pretend the game is designed around this as a bonus, when in reality the game is hamstrung, so that buying it equalizes the playing field for you.

    You see this happening in a lot of mainstream AAA games nowadays, and why I wouldn't touch an Electronic Arts game even if a gun was to my head.

  • SlickSalSlickSal Member Posts: 102

    @SpaceCoconut you make some good points. Also I saw the vid where you discussed this. However your only point I disagree with is that we should be able to buy the cosmetics afterwards in the store with shards. You a should be able to purchase the passes as a whole, but not individual cosmetics. This would ruin the whole point of the battle pass as you could just wait until they pop up in the shop instead of earning them. I believe the cosmetics in the rift to not only look cool, but also serve as a sort gonna achievement to show off to other players how dedicated you are. Almost like legacy in a way.

  • SlickSalSlickSal Member Posts: 102

    @SpaceCoconut

    you make some valid suggestions. I also saw the video you made in which you discussed this.

    the only point you made that I disagree with is that the cosmetics themselves should be purchasable with shards.

    This almost eliminates the point of the battle pass entirely. Since you could just wait until your favorite cosmetic comes up in the shop and buy it after. We should however be able to buy the battle passes with a shards.

    I believe the cosmetics to not only be fashionable, but also a testament to a players dedication. Almost like a legacy by showing they put the work in to earn it.

  • AlonzoAlonzo Member Posts: 148

    So to get this out of my head. If I won't buy the pass, I wont be able to unlock any of those cosmetics no matter the grind?

  • OkapiOkapi Member Posts: 627

    If the devs are dead set on adding a battle pass then they should at least compensate for this new revenue stream by allowing all original cosmetics (so no Myers, Ash, etc.) to be purchasable with shards.

    Seems like a fair trade.

  • HorusHorus Member Posts: 850

    The free track to not be an empty void and actually care about people who play the game but cant spend money on a premium every season

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