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  • BlueberryBlueberry Member Posts: 6,289


    The games core issues have been ignored for so long.

  • KaelumKaelum Member Posts: 955

    @TheDarkWall if you at all knew who Space Coconut is, you would not have written at least half of what you have. It appears that you have been playing the game for less than a year, so you don’t understand how wrong you are on certain points. Maybe a year from now, if you are still playing, you will understand the frustrations that seasoned players have with the way that BHVR has handled the game. If you were to step away from the game for 4 months, and then come back, you’d realized just how broken this game is when compared to other games. You can’t treat this game as if it was in a vacuum. So, we will need to agree to disagree on almost all points.

  • UlvenDagothUlvenDagoth Member Posts: 3,535

    After watching the video and thinking about it, I agree with points both Darkwall and OP made.

  • WickedKatzWickedKatz Member Posts: 238

    That video was awesome. Can i repost this on reddit and here?

  • SpaceCoconutSpaceCoconut Member Posts: 1,698

    Thanks :)

    You can repost if you like, but I did already post here in feedback and on reddit :)

    It's not a very popular post although someone did give me my first platinum for it :)

  • HellCatJaneHellCatJane Member Posts: 698

     The battlepass is also being handled exceptionally well and is not questionable. Purely cosmetic in nature and it allows you to earn your money back for an insane discount on cosmetics (over 8k value just accounting for cosmetics in the pass) is excessively charitable. 

    Eh. To consider it a "discount".... ehhh. And even charity.... They came up with the "sales" and prices.... the best way I can think to word it... is like a store, they mark up prices, and then put them as "discounted" when really it is closer to what it originally should be in the first place, etc.. But people flock to the "sale" thinking it's awesome.... That sorta thing... I used to think your way, but not anymore. They've made bloody millions also.. I don't understand why people are basically trying to imply they need donations and the games lively hood could be threatened and possible bankruptcy etc etc. It's just too overboard for me. (Saying in general. From what I've been seeing.) They are making several ways of profit from not only this game... and continue to find ways to gain even more profit... (as well as free labor...) To put it simply I just don't agree. If they were ever in danger, I am sure they'd let us all know.

    I think it was like estimated $25-50 million in revenue a year .... yeah... People are allowed to question stuff, IMO. Like I am just so over hearing how they need the few "scraps" of money they get from cosmetics etc... to "stay afloat".... They are making profit...

    @SpaceCoconut Nice video/letter.. you hit some good points.

  • KaelumKaelum Member Posts: 955
    edited October 2019

    @TheDarkWall I was trying to be nice, as virtually everything that you stated is either false, or misguided. I’m not going to nit-pick through a wall of text, where nothing is really salvageable. You know nothing about the industry, which is very easy to discern from the words that you used, and how you used them. You don’t even talk about the 10s of millions that BHVR made (well or $100 million now) from DbD and squandered. Ever heard of Death Garden? FYI, Evolve and Dying Light came out long before DbD, as well as many others.

    @TheDarkWall meet kettle. Your arrogant attitude is not appreciated here. BHVR is using DbD as a piggy bank to fund several other projects instead of fixing the numerous bugs/issues that increase with every patch. The technical debt keeps growing; however, it does appear that they are at least hiring qualified people now. Something they failed to do for almost 3 years. BHVR is the largest game developer in Canada. They have lots of money, or at least did until they released their failed products.

    Instead of being a blind DbD fan boy, try learning about things that you know nothing about. I can’t believe that a console player would be so clueless to think that PC games are better. I’ll respond to you, exactly how I respond to a PC elitist. Almost all of the best games ever made are only available on consoles, and PC games don’t even come close to them. Since PC hardware can vary by very large orders of magnitude, that advantage can never be fully realized. The lower end machines would never be able to play games designed for the higher end machines, that few can afford.

  • SylorknagSylorknag Member Posts: 585

    OMG. You pretty much summed up everything many of us here have been trying to say to the devs.

    Too bad they won't seet it.

    Great job nonetheless man.

  • SylorknagSylorknag Member Posts: 585

    "A development studio responsive to the community"

    Dude. With all do respect, what drugs are you on?

    It took them ages to "fix" DS, which is still clutch. As you can see in every build past rank 10.

    DS, BT, exhaust perk, Adre/ head on.

    Great balance, you have 6-8 meta perks. Jesus.

    They released Mettle of man, which was massively criticized during the PTB, right after they had "fixes" Ds.

    And then, after somehow acknowledging the mess they had done, went on to nerf the perk out of meta, pissing off those who had bought the character for the perk.

    They gutted Legion. They are nerfing Nurse's base kit, which wasn't the problem.

    Trapper is their first killer and hasn't received any qol changes god knows for how long, thus showcasing their unbalanced handle of new content/improvement.

    They are not addressing the gap between SWF and Solo survivors.

    Dude. I'm sorry but they are not, in any shape or form a responsive team.

  • 8obot1c8obot1c Member Posts: 1,129

    I subscribed to you already and found you on the forums :)

  • Ramxenoc445Ramxenoc445 Member Posts: 483

    The battlepass is great everyone complaining about it as if its mandatory or such a terrible idea. People always want more cosmetics and people want more reason to play the game and it gives both. It also gives you a full refund if you complete the battlepass on top of whatever the cosmetics would be worth from the shop. You buy it once and you never have to buy it again unless they raise the price of it or you dont complete enough to get your 1000 auric cells back.

  • HellCatJaneHellCatJane Member Posts: 698
    edited October 2019

    I'm not saying or implying, or complaining that is mandatory. I definitely 100% question their tactics for sucking revenue out of their consumers.

    You do not get a full refund, you have the option to obtain 1000 auric cells back upon hitting level 68, if that is even possible. The dev's aren't even sure if it's possible. It'll be a "test". It is more like a rebate/gift card.

    There's nothing wrong with people wanting cosmetics, if they want to buy it fine. I just don't necessarily agree with how this company has decided to go about this entire thing, and I question their future approach as well.

    EDIT: Also I find it questionable to make specific exclusive content, that is ONLY accessed thru a paywall....

  • WickedMilk03WickedMilk03 Member Posts: 624

    Even the best players and many survivors complain about gen speeds. Its bs. Sometimes you dont even get the chance to apply that pressure. A match can end in 2 minutes.

  • WickedMilk03WickedMilk03 Member Posts: 624

    I almost wanna give him a sub because this is EXACTLY HOW I [BAD WORD] FEEL.

    Devs wont listen to us though. They prefer the players who come in every time a new licensed chapter comes out and play for a week XD

  • Ramxenoc445Ramxenoc445 Member Posts: 483

    it'll depend on playtime and the timeframe they give us but i see it as a refund Can just continue to use it to get the pass again and again but i dont mind cosmetics being behind the pay wall from what ive seen a good amount are just reskins of some of what we have already anyway

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