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Nurse isn't even that strong, why nerfing her basekit again?

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  • mutabletiger4mutabletiger4 Member Posts: 185

    The ability to blink through basically everything and travel the map quickly isn't strong? So what makes a strong killer?

  • copperslycoppersly Member Posts: 2,243

    Well it's a good thing we don't decide balance around playing 1 game right?

    It was your "first" game with Nurse, I doubt you stomped them unless they were playing their very first game too. You don't pick Nurse up in 1 game, it takes hours of work.

  • arslaNarslaN Member Posts: 1,907

    I picked her up in like 5 matches. It really isn't that hard if you have seen some gameplay before trying her.

  • Bravo0413Bravo0413 Member Posts: 3,483

    Well... on console nurse doesnt exist at all.... I get one maybe every 3 months... and then it's a free 4man escape... shes terrible on console....

  • copperslycoppersly Member Posts: 2,243

    I agree, her basics aren't hard to pick up especially if you have watched someone beforehand.

    However, there are so many nuances and small things that come with playing her that tend to take a lot longer to develop than it does to blink around semi-accurately.

    Look at the recent Nurse PTB changes. Literally one change to her base-kit altered so much of her and it was all pretty much bad. She lost mind games, map travel, etc... that you pick up after the first week of playing her.

  • Mat_SellaMat_Sella Member Posts: 1,683

    The strongest killer in the game that you see quite frequently in red ranks due to her unignore-able mobility tool "isnt that strong".

    I'm sure you are either a Nurse main that is unhappy, or truly unaware of her strength.

  • martin27martin27 Member Posts: 696

    You can't blink through everything or travel quickly around the map. You can blink through most things and travel short distances quickly

  • Mister_xDMister_xD Member Posts: 5,547

    her basekit war and is broken. i dont see how anyone would be able to deny that, honestly...

    but lets just turn the whole thing around:

    the nurse nerf wasnt even that harsh, why are y'all complaining?

  • MewMew Member Posts: 1,285

    the fact that you said “nurse isnt even that strong” makes this entire thread meaningless

  • Mister_xDMister_xD Member Posts: 5,547

    nurse can ignore any defenses Survivors have by default. this is what makes her too strong - which is still the case with current nurse btw, there is just a 3 second delay between your doubleblinks now.

    this alone makes her stronger than she should be.

  • SluzzySluzzy Member Posts: 1,242

    "Nurse and Spirit are too OP" translates to "I suck at survivor because all I know how to do is pallet loop"

    The counter to that is to never stop sprinting, sounds fair to some people. Since that's the survivor meta, there is no surprize the devs nerfed her so all survivors have to do is "continue their meta"

  • martin27martin27 Member Posts: 696

    The nurse only has 2 blinks at base which get shorter with each one. Also when fatigue kicks in she forcible looks down at the ground.

    I can just as easily ignore survivors defences with a shock from the doctor, bear trap from the trapper or phantasm trap from a hag, that is not unique to the nurse or even that over powered.

    Also the nurse is the slowest killers, significantly by far and easily out runable when you break line of sight. Are you seriously saying you can't don't 2 blinks and outrun the nurse when she gets fatigued.

  • ZahmZaddyZahmZaddy Member Posts: 54

    Lol, the game rewarded you with Bloodlust, to catch the survivors without blinking. Congrats!

  • UlvenDagothUlvenDagoth Member Posts: 3,535
    edited October 2019

    "What is a Killer? A MISERABLE PILE OF ADD-ONS!"

    Sorry, I saw someone ask what made a Killer strong and Dracula just started talking in my head.

    Post edited by UlvenDagoth on
  • Mc_HartyMc_Harty Member Posts: 3,294

    This guy called me illogical because I said that the Nurse did not need buffs but here he is saying that Nurse wasn't even strong.

    The [BAD WORD] irony of this post.

  • RaptorrotasRaptorrotas Member Posts: 2,146

    Just gonna nitpick at the "ignores pallets" argumentation.

    Nurse doesnt ignore pallets, she can play around them. Fine difference.

  • Mister_xDMister_xD Member Posts: 5,547

    seriously?

    if "just dont stop running" would have been the counterplay to her, do you honestly think she would be considered the best killer in the game?

    just because she has a base movement speed of 95% does not mean she could be outrun. her blinks allow her for insane map pressure and chase ability and good nurses could basically not be beaten.

    please dont act like nurse wouldnt be too strong - because she is this one killer in this game that actually is.

    to balance her out they eigther need to nerf her chase / map pressure ability - which they just did (she's still too strong, though she should stay this way until the game itself is better balanced) or buff stealth play so immense that its a viable straetgy, which would kinda suck for other killers, so they went with the first option.

    anyone who says "omg they killed her", please look at those "nerf" once more. she literally has to wait 3 seconds before being able to doubleblink again, thats it. good nurses will still dominate their games, they will still catch survivors within a couple of seconds and there will still be very little survivors can actually do against this.

    oh and she now has some nice and viable add ons.

  • TwistrBlitzTwistrBlitz Member Posts: 91

    I don’t agree with the Nurse nerf but saying she’s not that strong is hilarious.

  • TragicSolitudeTragicSolitude Member Posts: 3,117
    edited October 2019

    "good nurses will still dominate their games, they will still catch survivors within a couple of seconds and there will still be very little survivors can actually do against this."

    I've never met a Nurse like this on PS4.

    I know, I know, no one cares, it's about how she is on PC. It's just unfortunate how little I see her on PS4, and how it's pretty obvious they're only doing it for a Daily Ritual when I do see one.

  • Mister_xDMister_xD Member Posts: 5,547

    tbh, thats mainly due to how the controls work on PS4.

    if you were to plug in a mouse and keyboard to your PS4, she suddenly becomes very viable - though you still need to learn her ofc.

    on the other hand, if you were to plug in a controller to your PC, she suddenly becomes unviable again.

    its not like the killer would work any different on both plattforms afterall, so we gtta be talking about her potential here, which would mean look at what can be done by her. she has the exact same power both on PC and PS4, though the controls are different, making the only difference here.

    she is, even on PS4, the best killer in the game (on paper) - its just a lot harder to play her on console.

  • TragicSolitudeTragicSolitude Member Posts: 3,117

    It's not just the controller/sensitivity: it's also the framerate.

  • harry14141414harry14141414 Member Posts: 356

    nurse isnt that strong??

    do you like have 20 hours in dbd ?

  • DevilDevil Member Posts: 11
    edited October 2019

    And after the 3.3.0 come out, all noobs survivor cry for spirit nerf xD

    GL & have fun nxt season gen rushers

  • KerbertKerbert Member Posts: 415

    I play on PS4, and as such I don't find that many good Nurses. But from the few that I do find, I understand just how unfun and unfair it is to play against her. And with the recent controversy of the Nurse nerfs, I have found that Nurse mains are as spoiled as entitled survivors.

  • BunnyTheHuttBunnyTheHutt Member Posts: 1,773

    A: A pudding isn't an addon, it's an offering. Major difference.

    B: I never said it wasn't difficult, but it is very possible and the best chance too beat them without an OP build. Tru3 does it all the time when he plays Nurse, and many Nurses don't run addons and still destroy SWF because they remain unpredictable the entire match, so it makes running away harder.

    C: You can do what you want, but I think it's silly that you'd waste good things before you even tried the changes (which are not even that big a nerf)

    D: I never disagreed that base nurse shouldn't of been changed, it was the reason's behind why you thought it shouldn't of been changed is what I disagreed with. saying "I used base Nurse" when you used addons is what I was disagreeing with, among other things.

  • djsponge10djsponge10 Member Posts: 349

    No one has ever did 1st killer game ever play as nurse and get a 4K

  • MochanMochan Member Posts: 2,886
    edited October 2019

    Didn't I just say earlier in this thread that I did?

    I got 4K as Nurse sometime in December last year. My first killer game. It's not hard when you know how to play Survivor and understand the theory of how to play this game. I'm a survivor main and I'm pretty good at it. Was pretty good at it for a beginner back when I was new to this game. I killed the first two survivors blinking around -- I suck at blinking but I predicted where they'd go because I understand survivor pathing at the low ranks. Then the last two I 3-genned to death and they had no idea how to counter me.

    I'm at least good enough to understand how the scrubs at Level 16-20 play -- and those are the kind of survivors I fought in my first game as a Rank 20 nurse.

    It's up to you if you don't believe, doesn't really matter to me. The important point isn't my skill at crushing survivor newbs. The important point is Nurse is the strongest killer in this game, and is a lot stronger than the OP is trying to discredit her for.

    I'd also like to add that my Killer Main is Myers. And I don't get easy 4K's with Myers all the time. It's a lot easier to get them with Nurse.

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