Currently sabotaging is useless and is not worth the time you could have been repairing a generator so do YOU think we will ever get a buff to sabotaging?
I hope so. If it can be balanced around SWF's all taking part in it at the same time, I say yes. That useless Hangman's Trick will be buffed, but in the end, the Survivors score another power balance victory.
Define 'bringing back' or 'buffing'?
Because old hook sabotaging, when hooks did not respawn, was broken as all heck. Survivors would take the time to sabo every hook on one part of the map, and then run over there to prevent ever being hooked; they could wriggle free long before the Killer could ever get the Survivor to a hook, and then just run right back to the safe half of the map.
So Killers began slugging people, and Survivors started whining that slugging was unfair and boring in spite of the fact that they themselves forced Killers to slug. :P
I hope sabo gets buffed because then i'd actually have a reason to run hangmans trick
i'm not sure if they will. from a survivors point of view it can be really funny when you manage to do infront of killer and then survivor escapes. i have managed to do it a few times but as you said time consuming. sabataging 3 hooks near exit to 95% is fun too, especially when they are running noed.
from a killers point of view (especially me as killer), it makes the game too hard.
i don't know what sabatage was like before or when it got changed, but i've been playing for years now.
i hope they will bring it back where somehow it doesn't hurt killer too much.
At release hooks wouldn't respawn anymore. Jake was absolutly meta, you don't do any gens, no no. First you sabotage ALL hooks and then you do gens. If the killer wasn't running iron grasp and agitation it was gg, no chance for the killer unless he manages to slug all 4 at once.
On PS4 i see nothing interesting from survivors anymore just gens 24/7 and maybe pallet blinds.
Survivors used to body block/sabo/go for flashlight saves and so on but not anymore just do the gens and get out no attempt at cool plays.
is it the same for other platforms?
I only play on pc during ptbs so i can't say. I see survivors using head on a lot more on pc streams going for stuns.
Thats the only pc/console difference i've noticed. I never see head on users on ps4
Maybe if the time they stayed broken was longer and something like it required an entire toolbox to do one hook.
"cool" play just gets punished to hard nowadays.
i think that is probably because 90% of the time, killer doesn't get stunned with head on, i hardly get it to work on ps4
I wish saboteur was 60 seconds
With the number of hooks on the map, one toolbox to break one Hook for even three minutes? Totally not worth it.
In DBD's current state I think they could finally bring back the whole hooks don't respawn thing and then at least killers won't complain about survivors gen rushing anymore
I must admit I rarely see Sabo now, I am a big advocate of Sabo, plus it's another objective of sorts for survivors to do which pulls them off focusing gens.
Sabo is good how it is you just need to be smart with it. Having a bunch of hooks 99% and ready for when a killer picks up a downed survivor is a good use of sabo. Not many people use sabo now but also so many people will cry about NOED but tell you using small game to find totems is a waste of time.
The main way I see it used is someone using unbreakable will sit at a corner gen with their nearest hooks broken
lets all sabatage to 95%, as it is for now, now wev'e seen this post. if more of us do it then it will work. bring it back!
You mean selfishly, yeah you see a lot of that going around.
I went against a sabo team today it works and its not fun to go against
Sabo is seesaw mechanic it's unlikely that it will ever really see too much of a buff.
It is really frustrating to go against. Survivors can literally take away a killer's ability to hook, which is their main objective. The ability of sabotage hooks should never have even been implemented.
All of those things got nerfed into oblivion. Once players get any degree of experience in this game they realize that nonsense is just that: nonsense. So they revert to genrushing.
The funny thing is killers have been asking for secondary objectives forever. Not realizing it's been in the game all along: Sabo. But when someone tries it they cry that it's no fun.
Fine, survivors will go back to genrushing then.
If they brought back the whole no-respawning hooks, and I had to deal with 'safety zones' that Survivors ran to in every chase; I'd uninstall.
The era of no-hooks was a dark time that should be forgotten, never to return. It meant Survivors would rarely die, because Killer would HAVE to slug. They had no choice, and then either camp a 4 minute bleedout timer & throw the game, or go hunting and let the Survivor be picked up.
So no, they can't bring back non-respawning hooks. It would ruin the game. Sorry.
I can't even tell if you're serious. Ruining a killers ability to win does not count a "secondary objective." It is hard enough to down survivors. Being able to place them on a hook should not be another challenge.
The hate between killers and survivors is absurd. I play both sides. You all need to get over yourselves and see the other's perspective.
The day they implement hooks that dont respawn is the day they should also implement the ability to kick a gen so hard, it permanently breaks. Just do that to all 7 gens and claim survivors just got outplayed, and should just learn how to counter it.
Hooks not respawning would be a terrible idea. Extending the timer, especially if they run sabotage would be okay. At least in my opinion. Adding more blood points for sabotaging hooks could also add some diversity.
Tell that to the developers. They included sabo in the game.
Look. I agree that no-regen Sabo was bad for the game. But it's been nerfed to a point where it is next to useless.
Sabo needs to be given a buff of some sort so that it is at least something survivors think about doing instead of genrushing.
Your binary way of thinking is unreasonable. Gen rush and buffed sabotage are not the only options. A true secondary objective that does not completely obliterate the killers most basic objective is possible. If the devs put as much time into balancing the game as they did making a battle pass, we would be in much better shape.