I love facing spirit u need iron will to counter her she changed meta and is actual threat but baby survivor mains would never adept bcz they want more m1 killers like they are not already enough maybe git gud?
All these killer mains telling the OP to get good... against Spirit. How about you get good instead and play a killer that requires skill?
Where it only matters how good the Spirit player is. If she's good (which isn't hard btw), you are dead anyway.
Iron Will doesn't do much, even easier to counter with a good headset. And then there is Stridor which completely counters IW and almost every Spirit runs it nowadays. Father's Glasses as well but not as common.
You're all basically telling the OP to get better at guessing, which is what this broken mess of a Killer is, only guessing for Survivors, skill doesn't matter at all.
The closest thing in the rules is "Working with the opposite team to gain an advantage or grief teammates" but it doesn't seem like the rule is intended for this kind of situation.
Exactly! Killers shouldn't be forced to take slow down perks to actually have a chance at completing their objectives.
Similarly survivors shouldn't have to bring specific perks to counter any one given killer.
Granted, even if the devs managed to draw out games in a meaningful way, high rank players would still spam extra chance and game slowing perks, but at least at the lower ranks we could all have fun.
i will accept all the 4ks your protest provides to me, happily. I can have just as much fun watching your team farm you and then having an easy af 3v1 as a sweaty 4v1. I just started getting into spirit, but lemme tell you at red ranks people can still outplay you and she is far from unbeatable. I assume you lack the skill to play against her, probably because you do just give up and never learn anything about her.
People who lose often to certain killers are naturally going to hate them. I’m a ghostface main and have lost count of the salty messages from people about gf being a ‘crutch killer’ or ‘auto-win’ or something of the like because they don’t use their brain or pay attention and feel entitled to an even playing field in a game where you are literally being hunted. I PROMISE you, as bad as you think spirit is, it could be much worse. Just repeat this to yourself whenever you get frustrated - At least it’s not an omega blink p3 nurse. I have a chance.-
base spirit is completely fine but her addons are a big problem they reduce too much of counterplay like nurses base kit was fine and addons were problem but u cant nerf spirit until they do something about swf which is far more op than spirit if played correctly
Dude, I just went through your old post history. You need a new game. You clearly don't like this one. Everything is a complaint about how bad the game is.
Spirit hasn't really changed much in the last few months, people finally learned how to play her.
That's how you learn to counter something you just quit, that's like a killer seeing dead hard or adrenaline or any other meta perk and just giving up because they say it has no counter. Instead of throwing a tantrum like a child actually learn. When she starts phasing her hair actually resets in animation and she glows. If you break los from her husk you can bait her to phase then double back. But for the love of god if you call her op and camp pallets or have a staring contest at a pallet or fall for me standing still after I used my ability 10 secs ago then dc you need to learn not quit because you feel entitled to not have to to against something and screw over your team because you feel like you get to decide what the killer plays.
I respectfully disagree with your statement. I'd argue that base Spirit is not fine with two words "Phase Collision". With all other factors: 110% movement speed, power with a cool down period, a unique mechanic that usually rewards skill, I'd argue that she is close to being balanced. However, it is all too easy for a Spirit to just spot a survivor and begin phasing and running all over the place until she blindly stumbles into the survivor and then attack. Even most of her add-ons I feel are fine, just simply make Prayer Beads an Ultra Rare and in response make the Mother Daughter Ring a Very Rare.
In terms of handling SWF the answer is obvious, buff killers. However, we cannot buff killers without first polishing the survivor experience otherwise BHVR risks driving away most of their survivor player base. So BHVR just needs to made a few new HUD effects and improve how survivors communicate in the trial. I have some ideas that I'd love to share with BHVR, however this thread is not the place to discuss them.
Yeah because the entire game should be balanced around 4-5 survivor perks. You know sometimes killer get a map where they know this will be garbage. Honestly as survivor main it annoys the hell out of me that people have solutions to their problems available, refuse to use them and are so arrogant to call it stupid.
This is why the game is the way it is. People refuse to play if they're not having fun which is entirely subjective.
Imagine if Killers were to DC everytime they weren't having fun to the same extent that Survivors DC against something they don't like or if the game isn't going their way. Yes both DC but majority of the time the Killer will play out the game, Almost every game there's atleast one Survivor who will DC lately.
That's the thing, collision with phasing can be used against her, if you wait at a pallet and run back and forth until you feel it you can abuse it, or body block a tight doorway for your team, if its removed theres a whole list of issues with it that it could cause, I like it as survivor because it gives me information of where she is, and if as survivor you know shes phasing dont hug walls or corners try to be out in the middle or somewhere she wont logically go.
Sometimes it happens that i miss when someone 360 because its unexpected, but its a thing that wasnt programed in order to use it, its just a thing that someone discovered and started to abuse.
I still like playing against Spirits. But I will say that I resort to just standing still when up against a Plague or Doc. They delete stealth from the game and it's just not fun to play against like other killers.
I'll let my teammates save me and I'll do gens when the killer isn't nearby. But if they find me, then they got me. It's whatever.
All I see is 'Blah, blah. I ragequit (or rage-idle) because you picked something I don't like. I'm not mature enough to handle that people use Killers/Perks I don't like, and I'm going to throw a temper tantrum & ruin your game if you don't play my way!'
If you're going to go afk, thereby ruining the game for the Killer and 3 Survivor teammates, then do everyone in the playerbase a favor; stop playing. Uninstall the game and go play something single player, because it's clear a PvP game is outside your maturity level.
Your 'protest' is nothing but the whining and temper tantrums of a child who can't comprehend that he's wrong, or that people may enjoy aspect of the game you don't.
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I love facing spirit u need iron will to counter her she changed meta and is actual threat but baby survivor mains would never adept bcz they want more m1 killers like they are not already enough maybe git gud?
I'm just waiting for Pig to get to Spirit and Nurses level.
Okay, but since when is forcing perk load outs good game design or balance?
like killers arent forced to use ruin pgtw corrupt to slow the game down right?
All these killer mains telling the OP to get good... against Spirit. How about you get good instead and play a killer that requires skill?
Where it only matters how good the Spirit player is. If she's good (which isn't hard btw), you are dead anyway.
Iron Will doesn't do much, even easier to counter with a good headset. And then there is Stridor which completely counters IW and almost every Spirit runs it nowadays. Father's Glasses as well but not as common.
You're all basically telling the OP to get better at guessing, which is what this broken mess of a Killer is, only guessing for Survivors, skill doesn't matter at all.
KEKW.
Fun to go against is a matter of opinion.
As for the OP's position. It's ridiculous. I am however curious if it wouldn't mess a Spirit player up have no scratch marks to follow.
Fun fact: What OP wants to do is not against the rules:
The closest thing in the rules is "Working with the opposite team to gain an advantage or grief teammates" but it doesn't seem like the rule is intended for this kind of situation.
Exactly! Killers shouldn't be forced to take slow down perks to actually have a chance at completing their objectives.
Similarly survivors shouldn't have to bring specific perks to counter any one given killer.
Granted, even if the devs managed to draw out games in a meaningful way, high rank players would still spam extra chance and game slowing perks, but at least at the lower ranks we could all have fun.
i will accept all the 4ks your protest provides to me, happily. I can have just as much fun watching your team farm you and then having an easy af 3v1 as a sweaty 4v1. I just started getting into spirit, but lemme tell you at red ranks people can still outplay you and she is far from unbeatable. I assume you lack the skill to play against her, probably because you do just give up and never learn anything about her.
People who lose often to certain killers are naturally going to hate them. I’m a ghostface main and have lost count of the salty messages from people about gf being a ‘crutch killer’ or ‘auto-win’ or something of the like because they don’t use their brain or pay attention and feel entitled to an even playing field in a game where you are literally being hunted. I PROMISE you, as bad as you think spirit is, it could be much worse. Just repeat this to yourself whenever you get frustrated - At least it’s not an omega blink p3 nurse. I have a chance.-
base spirit is completely fine but her addons are a big problem they reduce too much of counterplay like nurses base kit was fine and addons were problem but u cant nerf spirit until they do something about swf which is far more op than spirit if played correctly
I played recently against an optimal billy, meta perks, speed addons, perfect curving. He got one and blackpipped. Top 3 for sure lol.
So...mother-daughter ring?
Dude, I just went through your old post history. You need a new game. You clearly don't like this one. Everything is a complaint about how bad the game is.
Spirit hasn't really changed much in the last few months, people finally learned how to play her.
That's how you learn to counter something you just quit, that's like a killer seeing dead hard or adrenaline or any other meta perk and just giving up because they say it has no counter. Instead of throwing a tantrum like a child actually learn. When she starts phasing her hair actually resets in animation and she glows. If you break los from her husk you can bait her to phase then double back. But for the love of god if you call her op and camp pallets or have a staring contest at a pallet or fall for me standing still after I used my ability 10 secs ago then dc you need to learn not quit because you feel entitled to not have to to against something and screw over your team because you feel like you get to decide what the killer plays.
Congrats. No one cares, you little manchild :)
Write it in your livejournal next time.
Why you gotta assume their gender?
I respectfully disagree with your statement. I'd argue that base Spirit is not fine with two words "Phase Collision". With all other factors: 110% movement speed, power with a cool down period, a unique mechanic that usually rewards skill, I'd argue that she is close to being balanced. However, it is all too easy for a Spirit to just spot a survivor and begin phasing and running all over the place until she blindly stumbles into the survivor and then attack. Even most of her add-ons I feel are fine, just simply make Prayer Beads an Ultra Rare and in response make the Mother Daughter Ring a Very Rare.
In terms of handling SWF the answer is obvious, buff killers. However, we cannot buff killers without first polishing the survivor experience otherwise BHVR risks driving away most of their survivor player base. So BHVR just needs to made a few new HUD effects and improve how survivors communicate in the trial. I have some ideas that I'd love to share with BHVR, however this thread is not the place to discuss them.
Yeah because the entire game should be balanced around 4-5 survivor perks. You know sometimes killer get a map where they know this will be garbage. Honestly as survivor main it annoys the hell out of me that people have solutions to their problems available, refuse to use them and are so arrogant to call it stupid.
This is why the game is the way it is. People refuse to play if they're not having fun which is entirely subjective.
Imagine if Killers were to DC everytime they weren't having fun to the same extent that Survivors DC against something they don't like or if the game isn't going their way. Yes both DC but majority of the time the Killer will play out the game, Almost every game there's atleast one Survivor who will DC lately.
WOOHOO free bloodpoints with minimal effort on my end, cheers buddy
That's the thing, collision with phasing can be used against her, if you wait at a pallet and run back and forth until you feel it you can abuse it, or body block a tight doorway for your team, if its removed theres a whole list of issues with it that it could cause, I like it as survivor because it gives me information of where she is, and if as survivor you know shes phasing dont hug walls or corners try to be out in the middle or somewhere she wont logically go.
Spirit is fine, im so tired of this community crying for every viable killer 🤦
She is fine. Learn to out mind game the mind game.
if you can’t counter 360s then im sorry but pls just stop playing killer
Sometimes it happens that i miss when someone 360 because its unexpected, but its a thing that wasnt programed in order to use it, its just a thing that someone discovered and started to abuse.
Lol. I forgot about that addon.
I still like playing against Spirits. But I will say that I resort to just standing still when up against a Plague or Doc. They delete stealth from the game and it's just not fun to play against like other killers.
I'll let my teammates save me and I'll do gens when the killer isn't nearby. But if they find me, then they got me. It's whatever.
All I see is 'Blah, blah. I ragequit (or rage-idle) because you picked something I don't like. I'm not mature enough to handle that people use Killers/Perks I don't like, and I'm going to throw a temper tantrum & ruin your game if you don't play my way!'
If you're going to go afk, thereby ruining the game for the Killer and 3 Survivor teammates, then do everyone in the playerbase a favor; stop playing. Uninstall the game and go play something single player, because it's clear a PvP game is outside your maturity level.
Your 'protest' is nothing but the whining and temper tantrums of a child who can't comprehend that he's wrong, or that people may enjoy aspect of the game you don't.
Harsh, but completely true.
Oink.