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Hol’ Up - Scratched Mirror Myers got buffed

All stealth killers now have the Undetectable status effect when they are in their stealthy states. This includes Tier 1 Shape.

Undetectable status effect removes your stain and makes you immune to aura reading. But most of all - **it removes your terror radius**.

That means that Tier 1 Myers no longer has a terror radius at all. That also means that he NO LONGER NEEDS MONITOR AND ABUSE.

So now, Scratched Mirror Myers builds are no longer down a perk slot as they do not need to take a mandatory perk to make the build work. Monitor and Abuse can now be replaced with something else entirely.

Happy Halloween all you Spooky Myers out there!


  • ocafghanistanocafghanistan Member Posts: 3,359

    I'd say use play with your food as substitute

  • gaydavidkinggaydavidking Member Posts: 150

    So T1 Myers AND spine chill got buffed? I'm only seeing positives here.

  • NinoV1NinoV1 Member Posts: 382

    Yay scratched mirror Myers is the closest thing to a actual horror experience on this game.

    Any buff for that is good.

  • Raven014Raven014 Member Posts: 3,654

    However, Myers is now susceptible to Premonition and Spine Chill. Which are non-teachable perks.

  • MochanMochan Member Posts: 2,886

    It's a sidegrade. You get a perk slot back but in return survivors can use Spine Chill against you. It's a fair tradeoff. And not everyone runs Spine Chill so there's that.

  • Mr_KMr_K Member Posts: 3,092

    Trading a near non existent terror radius and full detection immunity for 0 terror radius isn't a fair trade imo.

  • JudgementJudgement Member Posts: 787

    Good point, I forgot about that. But wouldn’t you say an extra perk you can choose is better than having a perk viable against you?

  • TWiXTTWiXT Member Posts: 1,031

    One of the main reasons you'd hardly ever see Myers without Monitor and Abuse is because it wiped out his EW1 Terror Radius. Pair that with the Immunity to Object of Obsession, Spine Chill, and Premonition, and he would always be able to sneak up on survivors in the early game for some stalking. He also moves slower in EW1, so his immunity to detection perks was necessary, but more than that it enabled him to run the really great Scratched Mirror build, which consistently ensured in intense match full of jump scares.

    Now that Spine Chill is the "go to" perk for countering all stealth killers however, we're going to see more usage from it, and Shape will be hurt the most by it due to his slow movement speed, and the fact that it completely counters his Scratched Mirror build. It's a tough Call... On one hand he doesn't need to use Monitor and Abuse anymore, and this change means more survivors will be opting to use Spine Chill in place of other more meta perks. On the other hand, it Hard counters Shape in comparison to the other stealth killers, and makes one of his best builds useless.

    There are no perks to counter Spine Chill, so any perk you choose in place of M&A would have to help you compensate for the lack of ability to sneak up on survivors for stalking in the early game... Atm I can't really think of any.

  • BossBoss Member, Trusted Posts: 10,193

    I am glad to see that specific build no longer require a Perk.

    "Required" Perks are bad anyway, like how Brutal Strength was just incredibly good back then and a viable choice on any Killer but the Nurse.

    But beware, for he has a new weakness now: He's no longer immune to detection Perks.

  • RaptorrotasRaptorrotas Member Posts: 1,931

    Its a downright nerf for a killers whos dependant on getting ambushes on UNSESPECTING survivors.

    The others can just cancel their stealth and go happy hunting. "Normal" Myers needs to get that unsespected ambushes.

    As for mirror myers? Spinechill hardcounters that playstyle now.

  • terumisanterumisan Member Posts: 887

    Spine chill and premonition work on tier 1 Myers now when they didn't before so its actually a nerf

  • DaGreenBoltDaGreenBolt Member Posts: 437

    No that's a nerf, EW1 myers lost its immunity to premonition and spine chill, while only making it so he doesn't need moniter and abuse. That's more of a nerf than a buff.

  • Mr_KMr_K Member Posts: 3,092

    M&A wasn't needed for Scratch Mirror Myers. Before I could always hear his breathing before ever hearing the heart beat and this was before M&A was a perk. The zero terror radius does not make up for the loss of detection immunity. With Spine Chill coming into meta to counter Prayer Beads Spirits, Myers just got weaker. Just in time for Halloween.

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